Nah, I think it's a little too early for Requiem to be making his move. I think he's going to wait a bit before his coup, although that could be how they bring Nictus to CoV. Requiem sending folks to destabilize the Council by bonding with Nictus, or Arakhn bonding folks with Nictus to increase their numbers and fight off Requiem. Arakhn is more loyal to the Nictus than to the Council.
Anyway I just think it's too soon. However a general move by the Council to take over, that I could buy. Especially if it later put in the groundwork for the 5th to come back.
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What makes Miss Liberty an incarnate? She's just his granddaughter... And who would she be incarnate of?
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Nah, I think it's a little too early for Requiem to be making his move. I think he's going to wait a bit before his coup, although that could be how they bring Nictus to CoV. Requiem sending folks to destabilize the Council by bonding with Nictus, or Arakhn bonding folks with Nictus to increase their numbers and fight off Requiem. Arakhn is more loyal to the Nictus than to the Council.
Anyway I just think it's too soon. However a general move by the Council to take over, that I could buy. Especially if it later put in the groundwork for the 5th to come back.
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Well, it's been anticipated for awhile now. Ever since last year at the earliest.
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What makes Miss Liberty an incarnate? She's just his daughter... And who would she be incarnate of?
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And, why wouldn't Ms. Liberty also be included, as she's his granddaughter?
In the recluse SF one of the parts is to get a gun that removes the well of furies extra powers from the heroes you use it on. seeing as it states to use it on her, the storywriters seem to think she is an incarnate
Liberty
My 50s:
Hero: Armor Assassin (scrapper), Cross Dresser (scrapper), Surly Seaman (blaster), Defensive End (Tank), Rad Rhino (Cont)
Villain: Beast Infection (Corr), Sweet Zombie Jesus (MM), Milk Weasel (Stalker), Orgullo (MM), Agent Eris (Crab)
back to the EATs being given to each side evenly, i dissagree with this idea entirely, the whole point is that they are supposed to be something unique or perhaps even epic. if both sides can receive them then it undermines their value in my eyes. instead of having them available to both sides why not just put in the corruption/redemption tf/sf? that would solve all issues with EATs becomming unballanced (while allowing defenders to unballance COV). because the coralax are clearly evil, the while despising humanity thing, why not give BotBS to heroes? they screw over villains, right?
Well, the thing is, there really is no side. The only thing that determines that is their story.
In the Coralax's part, it is known to all of us (well, maybe not all of us) that not all Coralax are that harmful. Some have chosen to take the offensive, some chose to retreat back into the deep. So, their story is that their lost, with no god to guide them. The humans are destroying the seas, polluting their waters, and they don't know what to do. Did I mention that polluted water corrodes and decomposes the corals? That their skin, bodies, and their cities are made out of corals?
They're not evil, they're just defending their right to live.
Saying they're "clearly evil" is a bit of an exaggeration.
Look at it this way: we wouldn't want aliens from another world to come to our own planet and do harmful and fatal things to us. Like, for example, come to our world and with them, bring seasonal changes in our climate so it rains acid, sulfur, and brimstone.
So, as far as the Coralax goes, like I said, they're not evil. Some of them have already taken the offensive approach by harnessing Coralax-Hybrids and trying to awaken the Leviathan, like Calystix. But that's just part of their story. What if there are peaceful Coralax who chooses not to destroy or sacrifice anyone and would like to cooperate with the human beings so they can work something out?
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Anyway, that's what I meant about "there's no side", that their story really determines where they go.
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I don't understand how you can judge the EATs being released in pairs without not knowing the reason why, if they will be, released in pairs.
Besides, it would totally depend on wether or not the devs will release the same sets on both sides or if there's going to be a hero version and a villain version. Think Kheldians, there's the Peacebringers and the Warshades, and then there's the Nictus. Why can't you be a part of the villainous side of the story?
If anything, being able to participate in the good and the bad of an epic story makes it MORE epic, don't you think?
Just thought I would mention, even though the Khelds were released in pairs, that doesn't mean all the epics will be released in pairs.
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Very true. They could be released by ones, twos, or however many depending on their story and/or how much the devs would want to explore their epic story.
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Its not that Ms. Liberty is an incarnate (although she is the granddaughter of one and you would think she would inherit some of Statesman's godliness), its that the belt she wears was enhanced by the Well of Furies, thus granting her her Invuln. powers.
On another note, why is it that when you fight Ms. Liberty, she never uses a sword/dagger, because if you look on the left (her left) side of her belt on the Atlas trainer version of her, you see a dagger-like or a small sword-like weapon, maybe a new powerset to come? 
On an unrelated topic, I wonder what the guy who married Statesman's daughter (Ms. Liberty's dad) was thinking during the family get-togethers, it must've been pretty awkward for that guy. 
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On another note, why is it that when you fight Ms. Liberty, she never uses a sword/dagger, because if you look on the left (her left) side of her belt on the Atlas trainer version of her, you see a dagger-like or a small sword-like weapon, maybe a new powerset to come?
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Ms. Liberty carries Excalibur, which was given to her by Hero1 before he travelled to the Rikti dimension to stop them. She is either unwilling or unable to draw the sword to use it, and is 'keeping it safe' until he returns, from what I read.
I reckon Reichsman will be an Incarnate when the Fifth Column returns 
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This is pure speculation:
I believe that if they Incarnate is placed into the game it will allow the elite players who unlock the EAT to construct thier own specific, and completely customized archtype.
For instance, it was stated that States is a Tanker incarnate, but he has an incredible damage output. In terms of an Incarnate you will choose your primary power pool, Statesman would have been an Inv. Tank. In his secondary pool he was allowed to take any kind of other primary or secondary pool, so for his secondary pool Mr. Emmert took the Martial Arts Scrapper pool. So he would be a tank with a scrapper secondary allowing him to not only be an incredible damage sponge, but also dish out pain in close quarters combat.
My backing for this was that in the original version of the game you were to be allowed to take your pick out of any two power pools in the game. This idea was trashed because it made it too easy for the novice to make a gimp archtype that couldn't support itself (think of a greenhorn making a Force Field/Invulnerablity Tank) and too easy for an experianced player to make a God (something like a Fire Tank/Fire Controller). This idea of CoH has always inspired ideas of uber-builds in my head and I think that the idea could not have gone totally into the waste-basket.
This is just my speculation though.
(Fire Control/Fire Blast) Think about it....
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For instance, it was stated that States is a Tanker incarnate, but he has an incredible damage output. In terms of an Incarnate you will choose your primary power pool, Statesman would have been an Inv. Tank. In his secondary pool he was allowed to take any kind of other primary or secondary pool, so for his secondary pool Mr. Emmert took the Martial Arts Scrapper pool. So he would be a tank with a scrapper secondary allowing him to not only be an incredible damage sponge, but also dish out pain in close quarters combat.
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The thing I find wrong about these ideas is that, the devs already have a problem with implementing "cross-overs" (villains turn to heroes, vise versa), so it's hard to even think about being able to choose whatever powerset you want.
While it may be fun, I'm not sure if the devs will go through with this.
And also, like I tell everyone, we don't know anything about the Incarnates. We have examples, sure, like Statesman, Lord Recluse, Stheno, etc., but it doesn't really give us anything.
Nice speculation though.
Any alternate dimension Statesman/Lord Recluse/Stheno would be an incarnate. So Reischmen and Tyrant should be on that list.
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Any alternate dimension Statesman/Lord Recluse/Stheno would be an incarnate. So Reischmen and Tyrant should be on that list.
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Except Tyrant is really weak (so I've observed in game) compared to Statesman and Tyrant's powers are no different than an Energy Melee/Invuln Tanker with the Ancillary Power Pool.
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Fiery Aura/Fire Blast anyone?
Talk about an invincible AoE Monster...or how about an Invuln/Fire blast....Dull Pain + MoG...
how about not.
Just imagine the PvP imbalance...this just begs to be hit with a TITANIUM bat...not a nerf bat...a friggin Titanium bat.
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No offense, but that is a BAAAD idea... 
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you can already make this dominator
Liberty
My 50s:
Hero: Armor Assassin (scrapper), Cross Dresser (scrapper), Surly Seaman (blaster), Defensive End (Tank), Rad Rhino (Cont)
Villain: Beast Infection (Corr), Sweet Zombie Jesus (MM), Milk Weasel (Stalker), Orgullo (MM), Agent Eris (Crab)
i shudder when i think of the possibilities of complete choice for powers...game-breaking will not be tolerated...else i'll dig a hole in the ground with my plastic claws and bury my head........
@CrimsonOriole
My think about the new epics is that they all (except Incanate) seem so... ikky. Brown blobs of coral and tentacle squids. Is that really superheroic?
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Except Tyrant is really weak (so I've observed in game) compared to Statesman and Tyrant's powers are no different than an Energy Melee/Invuln Tanker with the Ancillary Power Pool.
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That depends on how you view it. In my opinion, Tyrant would be a very strong MM that picked up Inv and SS powers. All of Preatorian Earth is under his power... so you could consider his ability to be far greater then Statesman, and the weak attacks could be because he is a MM, and not a Tanker or Scrapper, or a Brute.
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My think about the new epics is that they all (except Incanate) seem so... ikky. Brown blobs of coral and tentacle squids. Is that really superheroic?
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Well, you're really just referring to one of them, not *all* of them (except Incarnate), and none of us even know what the Incarnates really are.
For one though, the upcoming EATs aren't for everyone. Just like, IMO, while the Kheldians are a good concept, I wouldn't like to be one. Two, the Coralax aren't meant to be superheroic. By your statement I would assume you don't know anything about them, which isn't a good way to judge something or form your opinion about something.
But anyway, they're just concepts. There's a chance that they won't be made.
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Sorry you don't care much for what we do know of the Coralax and for the Khelds, but if you read their back stories the powers make perfect sense and so do the forms.
The actual characters though are just folk with powers. Whether you are heroic or villainous really depend on how you spin the story and what you present yourself as.
So you aren't just being "super-squid" you are turning into an energy-construct of a former kheldian host.
And yeah, I find Khelds very heroic. A person being bonded with an other-worldly entity and then fighting crime and corruption? Don't get much more heroic than that.
I imagine Coralax will be very similar, except you'll be bonded with Coral. That or they'll just have Coralax specific costume options.
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Lord Recluse, Statesman, Ms Lib and the snake leader that lays the eggs (sstheno? forgot name for sure) are the ones i know of
Liberty
My 50s:
Hero: Armor Assassin (scrapper), Cross Dresser (scrapper), Surly Seaman (blaster), Defensive End (Tank), Rad Rhino (Cont)
Villain: Beast Infection (Corr), Sweet Zombie Jesus (MM), Milk Weasel (Stalker), Orgullo (MM), Agent Eris (Crab)