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Not sure of the exact date, and the OP is probably long gone now, but 70 years ago is the time the A-Bomb was being developed to be dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki...
Either way, great post.
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61 years ago the USA dropped those bombs in those places. 70 years ago the National Socialist Party of Germany was on the Fast Track to takin over the world...
Your Insanity May Vary...hmmmmmmm
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And hey, weren't the Council originally the 5th Column, a part of the german army? Hmmm........
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Erm, yes, I believe after the Germans lost the war, they tried to regroup(I think in real life history it was called The 5th Right) and created The 5th Column, a recruiting tool for the Council. I'm not possitive of any of it, though.
I loved the info, it clears all the bits and peices of info I've picked up. I'm glad I did Moonfire now, Helped me out =P CANT WAIT TILL 50!!!
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Not sure of the exact date, and the OP is probably long gone now, but 70 years ago is the time the A-Bomb was being developed to be dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki...
Either way, great post.
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61 years ago the USA dropped those bombs in those places. 70 years ago the National Socialist Party of Germany was on the Fast Track to takin over the world...
Your Insanity May Vary...hmmmmmmm
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And hey, weren't the Council originally the 5th Column, a part of the german army? Hmmm........
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Erm, yes, I believe after the Germans lost the war, they tried to regroup(I think in real life history it was called The 5th Right) and created The 5th Column, a recruiting tool for the Council. I'm not possitive of any of it, though.
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"Real life," any organization where people act against the interests of their country/sympathetically with the aims of the foe (typically in wartime) - subversives, saboteurs, that sort of thing - would be called a "fifth column." It comes from the Spanish Civil War, as I recall.
For instance, if Greece and Turkey went to war over Cypress and their other grievances, and there was a group in Athens working to feed Turkey information, sabotage vehicles and the like, that group would be referred to as a Fifth Column. (Though these days you'd probably just hear "traitors and terrorists.")
In game, the fifth column (the organization) - well, read it for yourself at ParagonWiki. They've got a good overview.
Actually, its the 5th Reich. Like Hike, with a R, i believe.
Actually, it's Third Reich.
Not in his case, considering he was talking about the 5th column. But yes, the actual one, that would be the Third Reich.
I am having a Dickens of a time finding actual information on the Kheldian War before it came to Earth.
My impression is this:
The Nictus become energy vampires and the war starts, with the Nictus clearly on top and multiplying in numbers rapidly. The Nictus develop their Great Weapon, some sort of collector that can harvest Kheldian life-energy from vast distances (in-game, we are told the collector could harvest Kheldians from light years away). The other Kheldians freak out, and learn to join with the Nova and Dwarf as a defense against the Great Weapon. Together with their new hosts, the Kheldians start taking ground from the Nictus, who in turn respond by learning to force the joining on Novas and Dwarfs. Then, the Nictus do SOMETHING TERRIBLE and the Nova and Dwarf homeworlds are destroyed, eradicating both species and relegating them to memory form. This event is so catastrophic that the first Warshades leave the Nictus, appalled at the genocides. The Kheldians, now properly called Peacebringers and Warshades, manage to destroy the Great Weapon, and the Nictus retreat into their Cysts and vanish into the galaxy. An uneasy truce between Peacebringers and Warshades is forged, but hostilities are still widespread and open. My impression is that it was not until the Kheldians started to merge with humans that they learned to tolerate each other (a positive human trait that Kheldians did not possess previously).
Now, that is my best guess. But I am having real trouble actually figuring out where I got that story from. Can someone cite a canon source on this for me?
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Anyway, a similar effect would happen for a Kheldian's life when when traveling long distances at relavistic speeds. n.n;
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This is interesting, it suggests that the reason a Kheldian's life span is so short is that it evolved travelling at high relativistic speeds. With such a vast universe passing past them at high rates, though, and years passing for each one of theirs, they probably found that the universe was very small and boring.
Once they reduced their speeds to more "normal" rates, however, they found the universe was full of fascinating creatures. But their life spans were so short they barely had time to enjoy any of the new planets and people that they had found. So they took to merging with them in order to "synchronize" themselves with the beings that all lived at slow relativistic speeds.
When they need to travel between planets, though, they can do it, from their point of view, in the blink of an eye. They would just rather stay at our speeds.
Very good read. Thanks for putting that together.
I didn't read the entire thing, of course (I plan to play through the story arcs, so I paid attention when you mentioned *SPOILER*). Still, I now have enough information to fill in the holes of a character concept, and for that, thanks a lot! 
Now, to get Umbramancer up to level 50 so I can roll a Warshade...
Another thumbs up for a great guide, and a little note about neutron stars.
Larry Niven actually made a "good enough for science fiction" description of how creatures might possibly evolve on a neutron star in his book Neutron Star. I think his creatures were the size of a thumbnail, as dense as the neutron star itself, and evolved from barbarism to interstellar travel in about a month's human time, but those are just details.
The real problem I have is with their description of one coming from a neutron star and the other coming from a pulsar. The only difference between a neutron star and a pulsar is where the earth is located. Yes, you read that right. Let me try to explain.
Neutron stars have a magnetic field hundreds of millions of times that of earth. This means that, instead of an Aurora Borealis, they shoot out a beam of energy from their magnetic poles that can be seen from earth, IF the earth is in it's path, and there's the crux.
Magnetic poles aren't generally in line with the axis of spin. For the earth, for instance, it's about 11 degrees off, but it can really be anywhere. This means that, as the neutron star spins, it spits out that beam of energy like a lighthouse. If, by some chance, the earth is in the rotational path of that beam, the light appears to blink on and off, and this is what we call a pulsar. If we aren't in the path of the beam, then it's just a neutron star (but it might be a pulsar from some other place).
So you can understand why I find that differentiation to fail to even meet the standards of "contrived". But, really, who cares. They're fun to play.
Well...nice try, but not exactly though you're very close. A pulsar is a neutron star, yes, but it's not quite as simplistic as you claim, it's more of a sub-category. All pulsars are neutron stars, but not all neutron stars are pulsars, regardless of position.
A Neutron star is a star that has burned out so efficiently, and collapse so entirely, that all the subatomic particles have been liberated from their atomic structures, with the most energetic of which flinging themselves into the far reaches of the galaxy, leaving nothing but the fairly lethargic neutrons. A Neutron star is named that because it is composed entirely of neutrons, not atoms, like traditional matter.
A Pulsar is a neutron star, yes, but it's relation makes little difference. All it is is a neutron star that has somehow become incredibly magnetically charged and is shooting it's beam of high-frequency radio waves at the earth.
Overall, my main point? Not that you're exactly wrong, just that you assume that all neutron stars are pulsars, which they most CERTAINLY are not.
Hey - I was looking around for a guide to Khelds, and found this one - main thing I was looking for was some sort of naming convention for Khelds.
Well, it is a good guide, just a shame there's no "actual names" for Khelds, just whatever human word is closest to a Kheld's name. I say we make up a naming convention for Khelds, that way people have something to refer to!
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Was searching around for more info on the Nova & Dwarf forms and I came across this, a compelling narration of the Kheldian story. I have no idea what this guy's source is, or whether this is from canon, but it doesn't seem to contradict any of Bill's information and gives much deeper insight into the Kheldian relationships with the Novae and Dwarves - both of whom are apparently now extinct. It's especially interesting to note that the Nova forms seem to be called that because their home planet was destroyed by a nova! Imagine if humanity was wiped out by a plague, but the Kheldians escaped ... maybe a Peacebringer would call their human form Shining Plague. 
Anyway, some interesting history there. Will help me a lot in trying to combine my PB's 4 personalities into one cool synergized whole. Wish me luck. 
And thanks Bill for this great guide.
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I am just wondering if what this guy wrote up fact? Very nice history he has in it...
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Was searching around for more info on the Nova & Dwarf forms and I came across this, a compelling narration of the Kheldian story. I have no idea what this guy's source is, or whether this is from canon, but it doesn't seem to contradict any of Bill's information and gives much deeper insight into the Kheldian relationships with the Novae and Dwarves - both of whom are apparently now extinct. It's especially interesting to note that the Nova forms seem to be called that because their home planet was destroyed by a nova! Imagine if humanity was wiped out by a plague, but the Kheldians escaped ... maybe a Peacebringer would call their human form Shining Plague.
Anyway, some interesting history there. Will help me a lot in trying to combine my PB's 4 personalities into one cool synergized whole. Wish me luck. And thanks Bill for this great guide.
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I am just wondering if what this guy wrote up fact? Very nice history he has in it...
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Yea that was pretty dam sweet, even if its not canon.
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Was searching around for more info on the Nova & Dwarf forms and I came across this, a compelling narration of the Kheldian story. I have no idea what this guy's source is, or whether this is from canon, but it doesn't seem to contradict any of Bill's information and gives much deeper insight into the Kheldian relationships with the Novae and Dwarves - both of whom are apparently now extinct. It's especially interesting to note that the Nova forms seem to be called that because their home planet was destroyed by a nova! Imagine if humanity was wiped out by a plague, but the Kheldians escaped ... maybe a Peacebringer would call their human form Shining Plague.
Anyway, some interesting history there. Will help me a lot in trying to combine my PB's 4 personalities into one cool synergized whole. Wish me luck. And thanks Bill for this great guide.
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I am just wondering if what this guy wrote up fact? Very nice history he has in it...
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Yea that was pretty dam sweet, even if its not canon.
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I think it should be their history since there is really no true fact on where they come from and how this split happen. I know I am going to play my hero, Cosmic Guard, origin off of this.
Very nice. Working on a fanfic for my PB, and this helps. I have questions to which answers may not yet exist, but am too tired to remember them. Do have the question of whether an I11-related update is in the works. After all, Kheldian related beings do play a signifigant part in some of the new content.
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Very nice. Working on a fanfic for my PB, and this helps. I have questions to which answers may not yet exist, but am too tired to remember them. Do have the question of whether an I11-related update is in the works. After all, Kheldian related beings do play a signifigant part in some of the new content.
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Not yet.
Mostly because trying to figure out where time travel and such is going to affect this makes my head hurt. Of course, given we don't have an "alternate now," it's somewhat safe (temporarily) to say it didn't have a huge effect... but we'll see. I'd say I15 is probably going to be where I'd actually have to give it some consideration. (That and fitting Twilight Son in... somewhere. "Traitor or not" to begin with.)
very interesting... i bet it seemed like a book report, except with an entire game-base.
" I don't let me kids play on the Freedom Server" -Oya
ohh well it was a great thing to read... i have been wanting to have all the kheldian information all in one place... and this is exactly what you provided... thanks loads =)
" I don't let me kids play on the Freedom Server" -Oya
I have a few theories on how Kheldians came here without a host
1) They travel at light speed, since they're basically made up of light. And being made of light they would probably be able to travel at light speed. I know, it's rocket science, I'm sorry.
2) If the Kheldian planet/rock of residence is close to the Rikti planet, they may have piggy-backed on the Rikti ships and hopped off once they entered orbit and traveled down on their own.
3) If the Nictus have Shadow Cyst Crystals, you'd imagine the Kheldians have a sort of "Light Crystal" that they can use like the Nictus.
4) A hundred or so brave Kheldians may have sacrificed themselves to create these "Light Crystals" on certain planets throughout the galaxy/universe to patrol for Nictus activity.
Sure, kind of lame, but hey, it's not like we actually know how they got here
Seven years of heroism. Seven years of friendships. Seven years of saving the world. Seven years of virtuous selflessness.
You will return, for you are the mighty City of Paragon, the City of Heroes.
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2) If the Kheldian planet/rock of residence is close to the Rikti planet, they may have piggy-backed on the Rikti ships and hopped off once they entered orbit and traveled down on their own.
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Have you read through the Rikti arcs?
If not... stop reading, spoiler ahead.
The Rikti are humans from another dimension.
Wanted: Origin centric story arcs.
If you've only played an AT once (one set combo) and "hate" it - don't give up. Roll a different combo. It may just be those sets not clicking for you.
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Not sure of the exact date, and the OP is probably long gone now, but 70 years ago is the time the A-Bomb was being developed to be dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki...
Either way, great post.
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61 years ago the USA dropped those bombs in those places. 70 years ago the National Socialist Party of Germany was on the Fast Track to takin over the world...
Your Insanity May Vary...hmmmmmmm
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And hey, weren't the Council originally the 5th Column, a part of the german army? Hmmm........