New Power set rumors.

Ah, found it. It was Geko.

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As I write this, I am glancing over my shoulder to my white board. On the left in bright blue is a spot reserved for future power sets. Some have been there a long time, and may never happen for technical reasons. Recently erased are Archery, Trick arrow, Sonic Attack, and the CoV power sets like Plant Control and Robotics. At the top of the list are ones you can expect in the near future (names are all pending): Street Fighting, Electrical Melee, Electrical Armor, Shields (melee and defense versions), new Henchmen for CoV Masterminds, and a new techno defense set for CoV Stalkers. There is a fairly good chance you will see many of these in the next Update. Some will be shared in both CoV and CoH, and some will be exclusive to one or the other.

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whay are pistols so asked for? Is there some popular preteen pistoleer cartoon hero I don't know about?? I mean of all the boring low graphical effect powersets to ask for...
yeesh.
Give me energy melee or electric melee, but get off the yawn-fest pistols already

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whay are pistols so asked for?

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I think The Matrix and to a greater extent Equilibrium really popularized pistols.

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For shields, I do remember it being used by one of the villains.. I forget who though, but he used it like a phase shift where he cant do anything and I cant hit him. Twas pretty neat.

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Ah, found it. It was Geko.

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As I write this, I am glancing over my shoulder to my white board. On the left in bright blue is a spot reserved for future power sets. Some have been there a long time, and may never happen for technical reasons. Recently erased are Archery, Trick arrow, Sonic Attack, and the CoV power sets like Plant Control and Robotics. At the top of the list are ones you can expect in the near future (names are all pending): Street Fighting, Electrical Melee, Electrical Armor, Shields (melee and defense versions), new Henchmen for CoV Masterminds, and a new techno defense set for CoV Stalkers. There is a fairly good chance you will see many of these in the next Update. Some will be shared in both CoV and CoH, and some will be exclusive to one or the other.

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You forgot the post States made afterwards that it was unlikely to be in the next update but sometime "Soon(tm)".

Willing to bet Geko got yelled at for that one .

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whay are pistols so asked for? Is there some popular preteen pistoleer cartoon hero I don't know about?? I mean of all the boring low graphical effect powersets to ask for...
yeesh.


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< :P > And shields are somehow better? How can that appeal to anyone but captain america fans. "I've got this big round thing. You better watch out or I'll put it between me and you. And if you make me really mad, i'll throw it at you". Must be an over-the-hill thing
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As for the topic though, I still stand by sword pistol. You may not get state's power of zeus or whatever, but you can be a ss/invuln tanker. Imagine if that was the first video you saw of CoH before playing it, got the game, and then found out nothing like that set was in the game.

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So far I hear many rumors about new power sets and the ones I hear over and over are: Street fighting and Shields.

While I guess they each have a cool power or two. I think neither seems strong enough to warrent their own power set.

May I suggest perhaps they would make good Pool power sets, as any hero should be able to learn how to use a shield or kick Frostfire in the jumblies.

I'm afraid I have not been here from the start but I do not know when the last time the added a power pool set was. I hope they will prove me wrong (lord knows it wouldn't be the first time) and come out with some kick butt sets.

What say you?

Archbishop

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is there any solid source behind the rumor..? Dev comments?
is this i7?

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You forgot the post States made afterwards that it was unlikely to be in the next update but sometime "Soon(tm)".

Willing to bet Geko got yelled at for that one .

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Oh yeah. Wasn't meaning to imply it'd be in I7, but rather that these were things that were currently in the design phase, meaning they'd be coming eventually. The post looks best if read in conjunction with the one I made before that one, where it says:

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A few powersets were mentioned as being *somewhere* in the design stage a while back in one of the 'Ask X' threads IIRC. Posi's? I forget. But no idea how far along those are. I'd suggest scouring the 'Ask X Answers' threads in the Developers' Corner.

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Blame me for being too lazy to edit that post and just made a new one.

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Although you didn't mention it, pistols would be a unique set: all "short range" attacks.

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I would hate for pistols to be restricted to too short of a range. In other words, I wouldn't want to keep getting a "your target is too far away" message all the time. I'd rather they design it so that there is a severe accuracy penalty at medium range and an almost zero possibility to hit at long range; I still want to be able to point my gun and shoot at my target.

In any case, here's hoping we see them someday.

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whay are pistols so asked for? Is there some popular preteen pistoleer cartoon hero I don't know about?? I mean of all the boring low graphical effect powersets to ask for...
yeesh.

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I can think of two classic comic book characters:

The Phantom (Pistols/SR and a really ugly costume)
The Shadow (Pistols/Dark Armor -- "What evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows!")

Both movies were lame, but the comic strips are classics. Pistols would lend itself to characters of the '30s and '40s, including Indiana Jones-type adventurers or western cowboy characters (no Brokeback Mountain comments needed!).

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"Guns? That's your Super Power? You've got guns?"

(Hope I didn't butcher the quote too much, going from memory. Imaginary stars for whomever can name the movie.)

Good call on the Shadow and the Phantom. It has to be noted though that both characters have their roots in the Pulps of the 20s and 30s where guns were far more common tools of these stories' heroes than super powers, at least when compared to pure comic heroes. Then of course, there is the Punisher and the 80s-90s 'Grim and Gritty' characters, many of which carried guns in lieu of old-fashioned super powers.

Someone mentioned the Matrix and Equilibrium, but both of these movies only borrow stylistical concepts from (late 80s to?) 90s Hong Kong movies. Watch The Killer or Hard-Boiled, both starring Chow Yun Fat, and tell me that the gunplay exhibited by the leading characters doesn't border on the superheroic in appearance and style. Never mind that the 'Supherheroic Genre' has blurry borders in every direction.

Espionage stories from Mission: Impossible to the Connery and Moore James Bond movies definitely have superheroic qualities, as do crime stories in the vein of CSI or The Pretender. Science Fiction picks up superheroic imagery and themes, as do uncanny Western heroes and classical Fantasy and Myth are often the inspiration from which these stories spring. All of these genres have in common that often, their protagonists employ weapons. Not necessarily simple run of the mill swords, six-shooters or blasters but nevertheless relatively blatant and banal weapons. Using regular handguns in a contemporary setting fills the same niche as Siegfried using his sword Balmung to slay the dragon, John Wayne drawing faster than the gunslinger he's facing down or Luke Skywalker aiming whatever his ship's shooting down the Death Star's ventilation shaft.



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Loved the Shadow movie myself. Though anybody who watches it with me has to suffer me saying 'The Shadow nose' over and over again because Baldwin looks admittedly goofy like that. That said, he's no Orson Welles (who did the voice for a time on the original Shadow radio show).

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Pistol-based heroes/villians:

Grifter (Pistol/Super Reflex) Image Comics :Wildcats #1
Ghost (Pistol/Dark Armor? w/ phase shift) Dark Horse Comics: Ghost #1
Nick Fury (Pistol/Devices) Marvel: Not sure of debute
Scourge (Pistol/Devices) Marvel: Debuted Iron Man #195
Jonah Hex (Pistol/Invuln.) DC (as seen on JLU)
Ghost Rider (Pistol/Dark Armor) Marvel (the Western one, not the guy on the motorcycle. Seen in the West Coast Avengers.)
Johnny Thunder (Pistol/Super Reflex) DC (The western one)
Vigelante (Pistol/Super Reflex) DC (as seen on JLU)
Adam Strange (Pistol/Super Reflex w/ Flight) DC
Crimson Avenger/Scarlet Avenger (Pistol/Devices) DC: The Crimson Avenger debuted in Detective Comics #20. For reference, Batman debuted in Detective Comics #27.
The Sandman [Original] (Pistols/Devices) DC: Debuted in Action Comics #40

I hope that helps.

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< :P > And shields are somehow better? How can that appeal to anyone but captain america fans.

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The Guardian for another.

There was The Shield, but his gimmick was a bulletproof shield emblem on his suit.

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My scrapper doesn't need an AoE. She IS an AoE.

The video can be very misleading though because heroes of Statesman's nature can get powers that we can't. What I'm really really hoping for though. A street fighting set, with a mixture of kicks and punches, a pistol set would be really neat to see. Something that I'm really hoping that the video was introducing though, is power customization.

Spark Blade looks like he could be a Katana/SR scrapper with his pistol being his special ability and electricity being is power customization.

Same with Foreshadow. MA/SR Scrapper chi blasts are his special ability and maybe energy as his power customization.

I don't know for sure but that's definetly what I'm hoping for.

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The new Pony power pool will be popular.

Pony Poo: You get a magic pony who excretes influence/infamy.

Pony Prance: Your magic pony can superjump to any spot on the the map in one leap.

Pony Pound: Your magic pony can one shot minions, two shot lieuts, three shot bosses.

Pony President: Your magic pony is elected President and because he is YOUR magic pony, everyone has to do what you say, all the time, or President Pony will call in a nuclear strike on them.

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My scrapper doesn't need an AoE. She IS an AoE.

I am guessing the Thug MM powerset would use a pistol for attacks (just my guess). As for shields? I agree that there is a small number of premere heroes who use one (Cap and US Agent are the only ones to come to mind). Even as a huge Cap fan, I won't be using a shield set since it doesn't appeal to me.

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Taskmaster. Legion Supreme's Wonder Woman analogue (Power Princess?) used a shield IIRC. The Fighting American did (though Marvel sued and he had to stop doing so) AND so did Youngblood's Diehard -- both partial Captain America clones perpetrated by Rob Liefeld of course. Battlestar (ugh). Several superheroes and -villains with 'Knight' themes have at times used shields.

The aforementioned 'The Shield' had an enemy called 'Vandal' or something who used a shield AND a handgun.

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Defensor used a shield, too. He was one of those lame-o "non-US-centric" heroes they whipped up to compete in the Infinity Gems game between Thanos and The Gamemaster. Props to me for useless knowledge. (If I remember the comic correctly, and this is going back a loooong time now... I think She Hulk (in her FF4 days) was on Defensor's team with 2 other heroes... and they were opposed by a team with Daredevil and 3 other heroes. DD ended up winning that piece of the golden globe with a well timed billy-club/cable throw to lasso it at the last second.
[Good Lord... I'm sad...]

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Legion Supreme's Wonder Woman analogue (Power Princess?) used a shield IIRC.

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Did you mean Squadron Supreme? (and as far as using a shield goes, I have no idea)

On the subject of shields being only included for Captain America fans, what about the spines powers? Not very prominent in comics, and yet still added (at launch, even)...

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I am guessing the Thug MM powerset would use a pistol for attacks (just my guess).

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I "hear" that it does.

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I actually have a small hope that we will see Shields in Issue 7...

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Foreshadow is obviously MA, but also has "chi blasts",

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Who's Foreshadow? Is he the one that was in the CoV promo movie? He was hawt!

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Foreshadow is obviously MA, but also has "chi blasts",

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Who's Foreshadow? Is he the one that was in the CoV promo movie? He was hawt!

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Yeah, thats the guy. He's also in the CoH Asian Launch video.

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Dysmal
Lumynous
Sam Steele
Pluck
Wile
Slagheap
Pressure Wave
Rhiannon Bel
Verified
Stellaric
Syd Mallorn

Villains
Jotunheim Skald
Saer Maen
Jen Corbae
Illuminance
Venator Arawn
Taiga Dryad
Tarranos

Did anyone see this? I just browsed through Ask Statesman and saw it...

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When will you actually start adding real new powersets and things worthwhile?

Hmmm. A loaded question. We just added Archery and Sonics for heroes; there a number of new sets for villains. We’ll continue to add more stuff in the future: Thugs (for Masterminds), Shields (Tankers and Scrappers), etc

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