Running CoH in Linux


Aliana Blue

 

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sorry, i have an nvidia card...


 

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Are you using an ATI card?

If so, did you have to do anything special?

Please let me know if you have CoH working in linux on an ATI card

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hi there,
a little update on the ati part of things.
this is how far i get with cedega 4.1.1-1 / xorg 6.7 / ati driver version 3.14.1

this is how far i get right now:
-cohupdater.exe works
-coh loads up
-i can enter my account name and select my server
-immediatly after server selection the whole x session crashes

from what i´ve read on a couple of boards the problem lies in the different implementation of pixel buffers and render to texture of nvidia and ati.
and apparently transgaming is trying to get more support into cedega for ati cards. i guess we will just have to wait.
on the other hand i´ve read some reports of people getting coh to work with radeons <= 9200.
there are drivers available for those cards through the dri project that have accelerated 3D. so apparently those can handle whatever cedega wants from them better than atis own drivers...

any info on getting past that server selection screen is greatly appreciated

kind regards


 

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My 2 inf on the cost issue. Cedega only costs $99/year if you want to be able to use their upgrading system. Since Cedega 4.0.1 works beautifully with CoH just spend the $30 and get the product...

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Hmm..... last time I checked Windows XP upgrade cost $89..... so with that $99 you could buy the actual operating system, have NO compatibility issues and still have enough money for 10 Frostee's at Wendy's! Now why would I want to pay for this program?


 

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so funny....as if i'd go through more trouble than i already do to play a game....


 

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My 2 inf on the cost issue. Cedega only costs $99/year if you want to be able to use their upgrading system. Since Cedega 4.0.1 works beautifully with CoH just spend the $30 and get the product...

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Hmm..... last time I checked Windows XP upgrade cost $89..... so with that $99 you could buy the actual operating system, have NO compatibility issues and still have enough money for 10 Frostee's at Wendy's! Now why would I want to pay for this program?

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Hrm...why even post something like this? It contributes nothing. If you don't want to run CoH in Linux and/or buy that program, there is no need to post.

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Running SuSE 9.2/Win XP Pro

Nothing else really matters. :P 40 Gig Wester Digital for linux, 80 Gig Wester Digital for Windows...mmm, yeah, that's all. You suggested just getting the current version for 30$? How much difference is there in game play? Would it just be more reasonable to reboot into Windows?


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so funny....as if i'd go through more trouble than i already do to play a game....

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As the poster above stated what good does this do. Some people prefer to not deal with the hassles of Windows anymore or find that Linux offers them more control over things. Regardless of the reason I think all game developers should seriously look into Linux clients for there games. If you look at Transgaming you see there is a need and people would still pay the $50 to get the game if it had a linux/windows client.


 

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Hmm..... last time I checked Windows XP upgrade cost $89..... so with that $99 you could buy the actual operating system, have NO compatibility issues and still have enough money for 10 Frostee's at Wendy's! Now why would I want to pay for this program?

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Operative word, upgrade. You have to upgrade from an existing version of Windows. IIRC specific versions at that. It also leaves you with a non-working coaster if you ever fry your entire HD. A complete version is far more than $89.

BTW, the main reason XP shall never taint my HD. I make 3 changes to my machine and I have to call Microsoft for a reactivation code. Let's see, in the past year I've upgraded my video card, CPU, RAM, botherboard, case, went from a CD-R to a DVD-R/CD-RW and switched between my external sound card and the mobo's on board sound card about 6 times. I'm thinkin' there's at least 2 calls to Microsoft in there somewhere, if not 3. Of course all of that is avoidable if I fork out the money for XP Pro.

Ooooor I can run Linux, have an OS that does what I want it to do instead of tell me what it thinks I should do and support Transgaming with the overall money and time I save.

Of course I am still having problems getting CoH running. >.<


 

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Hmm..... last time I checked Windows XP upgrade cost $89..... so with that $99 you could buy the actual operating system, have NO compatibility issues and still have enough money for 10 Frostee's at Wendy's! Now why would I want to pay for this program?

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Operative word, upgrade. You have to upgrade from an existing version of Windows. IIRC specific versions at that. It also leaves you with a non-working coaster if you ever fry your entire HD. A complete version is far more than $89.

BTW, the main reason XP shall never taint my HD. I make 3 changes to my machine and I have to call Microsoft for a reactivation code. Let's see, in the past year I've upgraded my video card, CPU, RAM, botherboard, case, went from a CD-R to a DVD-R/CD-RW and switched between my external sound card and the mobo's on board sound card about 6 times. I'm thinkin' there's at least 2 calls to Microsoft in there somewhere, if not 3. Of course all of that is avoidable if I fork out the money for XP Pro.

Ooooor I can run Linux, have an OS that does what I want it to do instead of tell me what it thinks I should do and support Transgaming with the overall money and time I save.

Of course I am still having problems getting CoH running. >.<

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what's happening when you try to run CoH?


 

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I've made more changes than that in a year's time and the only time I ever had to reactivate was when I did a clean install.

BTW, if the changes are made over time, the activation counter does normalize to your current configuration. So if you only changed sound & video one month and a few months passed before doing more changes, the system will have normalized to the changed hardware and treat it as baseline.

So bashing XP because you don't like activation is bunk. Even moreso since your cited reasons are false. It sounds more like sour grapes towards Microsoft than being anyhting wrong with Windows.

Perhaps you should read up on how activation works rather than spout off anti-Microsoft crap. Otherwise, you just appear to be nothing but a Linux fanboi.

For the record, Windows & Linux are both good. Just how good depends on what use you have for them.


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I've made more changes than that in a year's time and the only time I ever had to reactivate was when I did a clean install.

BTW, if the changes are made over time, the activation counter does normalize to your current configuration. So if you only changed sound & video one month and a few months passed before doing more changes, the system will have normalized to the changed hardware and treat it as baseline.

So bashing XP because you don't like activation is bunk. Even moreso since your cited reasons are false. It sounds more like sour grapes towards Microsoft than being anyhting wrong with Windows.

Perhaps you should read up on how activation works rather than spout off anti-Microsoft crap. Otherwise, you just appear to be nothing but a Linux fanboi.

For the record, Windows & Linux are both good. Just how good depends on what use you have for them.

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ease up there. who are you, bill gates' personal towel boy?


 

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Transgaming's winex is available for free from http://www.transgaming.com/sources.php.

You need to pull the sources using CVS and build it yourself, but it's free

It was very easy for me to set it up. Than again I'm a hardcore Linux user and I can honestly say that building and installing binaries on your own is not rookies.

For more details on running CofH on Linux, please check out the forums at http://www.gentoo.org.

I am running gentoo linux and CofH runs fine on my machine. The only annoyance is that the mouse cursor is just a white blob. But I can deal with that.

I noticed that to get the best experience you'll want to start X without a window manager and run cofh from there. Otherwise you'll get an annoying WM border around your screen.

Yes it is a hassle to run games on Linux. The truth is, most of us chose Linux for reasons other than playing video games, but that shouldn't stop us from playing games that are meant to run on Windows only.


 

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will Cedega run under OS X? i just returned a Dell laptop and am considering either a Sager 3790, or possibly a iBook. if Cedega can run CoH under OS X, i'm liable to go for the iBook

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Nope, it won't run on PPC (I wish! My real computer is a Mac running Linux, heh). Wine/Cedega isn't really an emulator, but more of a runtime library that redirects Win32 api calls through libc (and whatever else, xlib and a bunch of other stuff probably). So it requires an x86 compatible CPU, as the code is still more or less executed natively rather than interpreted.

At least that's how I understand it. You may be able to use a real emulator such as Bochs or vmware or something to run a copy of windows and CoH on os10, but I have a feeling it would be godawful slow, and I don't think any of those emulators provide access to the 3d hardware.

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While this was true, with the introduction of Tiger on Intel, I have been able to install and run CoH on my Athlon FX65 under OS X Tiger. Albeit that some applications are still horrible under Tiger, the support is coming and should be a serious gaming platform. THIS IS MY OPINION!!!!
I know I will be getting some flame here but I like the look and feel of OS X. While running CoH, I had major issues with drivers, hardware compat. and not having any resources to solve some of the coding aspects. e.g.
getting CoH to get past a loading other than going to Atlas.
Well, thats it. As for playing with an iBook, step up and get a better laptop....Intel with Tiger.


 

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My 2 inf on the cost issue. Cedega only costs $99/year if you want to be able to use their upgrading system. Since Cedega 4.0.1 works beautifully with CoH just spend the $30 and get the product...

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Hmm..... last time I checked Windows XP upgrade cost $89..... so with that $99 you could buy the actual operating system, have NO compatibility issues and still have enough money for 10 Frostee's at Wendy's! Now why would I want to pay for this program?

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PLEASE NO WINDOWS vs. LINUX BASHING HERE!!!!

boo


 

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My 2 inf on the cost issue. Cedega only costs $99/year if you want to be able to use their upgrading system. Since Cedega 4.0.1 works beautifully with CoH just spend the $30 and get the product...

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Hmm..... last time I checked Windows XP upgrade cost $89..... so with that $99 you could buy the actual operating system, have NO compatibility issues and still have enough money for 10 Frostee's at Wendy's! Now why would I want to pay for this program?

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PLEASE NO WINDOWS vs. LINUX BASHING HERE!!!!

boo

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/agreed

OP: Thank you. You've given me incentive to dual boot again. And CoX will probably run better on a... what was it called... a Naked X Session. I will probably push this thread through several pages as I get this to work.


 

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will Cedega run under OS X? i just returned a Dell laptop and am considering either a Sager 3790, or possibly a iBook. if Cedega can run CoH under OS X, i'm liable to go for the iBook

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Nope, it won't run on PPC (I wish! My real computer is a Mac running Linux, heh). Wine/Cedega isn't really an emulator, but more of a runtime library that redirects Win32 api calls through libc (and whatever else, xlib and a bunch of other stuff probably). So it requires an x86 compatible CPU, as the code is still more or less executed natively rather than interpreted.

At least that's how I understand it. You may be able to use a real emulator such as Bochs or vmware or something to run a copy of windows and CoH on os10, but I have a feeling it would be godawful slow, and I don't think any of those emulators provide access to the 3d hardware.

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Ok, but Apple is switching to Intel chips. Now if they could just get Wine/Cedega to run under Mac/Intel systems, you could probably could play CoX on a Mac.


 

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MrsHill: look into blackbox/fluxbox.. they are both very lightweight desktop managers that will still provide you with some functionality at virtually no performance hits.. they are very small compared to KDE or Gnome (guaged by compile times under gentoo on the same system). I currently use Fluxbox on my Main PC (used for e-mail, openoffice, PVR, web) and there's little to no load from it on my memory or CPU. The only reason my Gaming PC isn't running linux over XP is there are quite a few games yet that don't run under Cedega.


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has anyone gotten this game to work in gpl'ed wine yet? the launcher starts up flawlessly and much faster than with cedega (i have IE installed too so it looks like on windows). but it dies once the game starts. so i play with a version of cedega like 4 upgrades old (the last one i paid for).

i run xfce4 as my desktop, and even with numerous programs in the background and several apps forwarded over ssh to another computer i don't notice any slowdowns (p4 2.2ghz, 768mb of ram, and an amazing 64mb nvidia card), so it's cool on the performance front. just seems that wine is the better coded program until directx kicks in.