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I haven't read the second page of this thread yet, but this is one beautiful, well-reasoned post. Thanks, Minotaur!

Wow, terrific!

How did you get all those giant monsters in there? Tell me tell me! My daughter and I are freaking out! :P

Battle of the Immortals is a colorful, real-time combat, fixed-camera, isometric MMORPG by Perfect World International. You can use W-A-S-D nowadays (don't laugh, you couldn't during beta) but it's the lack of sky view and slightly awkward controls that will get you. Otherwise, it's pretty fun, and one of my favorite truly F2P games (it wasn't a P2P that converted, like EQ2 or LoTRO; it was launched as F2P).

In BotI, you can "tame" practically any mob in the game and then it will fight with you. Even the same mob will have very different stats depending upon which exact one of it you tame (and if you tame 50 of them, many of them will have varying stats). The stat system for pets is very deep. The actual classes themselves aren't as deep, but the Heretic healer was about my favorite. The tank isn't bad either. But, at least when I played, almost no gold dropped from mobs or quests and you need it to level your skills, so you wind up buying it in-game with real-life money through the auction house. I just looked at it as financial support for the developers. Try the free download. It's pretty fun, bright, colorful, and has a decent player base (at least it used to about a year ago, which is when I last played it).

Tera has excellent graphics and a cool, real-time combat engine. Dodging and blocking in real-time not only mean something but are necessary to save your skin. The classes are good, but healing is AWKWARD AS HELL lol. Priests have to target a player manually, press a shortcut key (all attacks/skills are shortcut keys; this game controls like a FPS even though it's 3rd person) then target the player again and then heal them. AoE heals are "wells" you have to drop onto the ground that time out in a couple seconds, and players have to "walk into them" during that couple seconds to get healed. Mystics (pet/support class) drop healing spheres onto the ground and other players on their team have to pick them up like loot drops with the spacebar to be healed by them. The questing in Tera really sucks though-- it's very grindy and extremely repetitive and boring. That's why they've already merged down to 3 lone servers (one PvP, one PvE and one RP) since launch this past spring. This game doesn't remind me of Lineage 3--- it IS Lineage 3. All the work went into the graphics and real-time combat engine. Try a free trial first if possible.

Haven't played the other two, sorry.

Phoenix City (I suspect just a temporary working title) is already underway and has been for some time now at Titan Networks. As these forums are owned by NCSoft, people are probably better off registering and joining the network there for that type of project.

The sad fact of the matter is that I agree with you. If NCSoft won't sell the IP while taking the heat from a full-on public campaign by CoH's player base, the chances of them selling it after it's shut down and people have moved on is nil. They may pull up stakes and withdraw totally from the west within the next year or two (and they really should), but they're apparently determined to brazen out their horrible reputation until then. So be it.

Well, I still do believe that CoH will live again. EMU isn't the way I would have preferred it, but I agree I think that's where our efforts and time are best spent now.

So where does everyone meet up to volunteer services? Titan Network? TonyV should set it up so the specific part of the forum used for EMU is invisible to the general public; only those actually working on reverse engineering, etc., should be able to log in and see it. Granted, NCSoft minions could always eventually register as "fake help" there too (maybe samples of work would be required to "get in?"), but we may as well not wave a giant flag in their faces about it day in and day out meantime.

Hehe, yeah, that seems about the size of it.

Thanks, eeek! I'm with you!

And as it appears to be a compulsion for you to jump into every single thread and immediately be negative, you are taking this thing a bit toooooo seriously as well, so you too might need to start considering seeking a little help or at least someone to talk to.

I sure hope you don't believe those two people, Brillig. I hope you're being facetious here.

But just in case you're not, or in case anyone else is buying into that spiel.... Don't you remember when we had MishiLove, the phony Asian-stereotyper with the supposed inside information, spouting "It lives! July 13 2013" nonsense about the super-secret project after CoH's closure was announced? Zwill had to charge into the thread and give him/her the reality slap: Nope, cancelled with CoH.

And remember the other gem, that SOE had made an offer to buy CoH part and parcel within 2 hours of the announced shutdown? Poor John Smedley had to actually announce publicly on his Twitter that it never happened and never would to shut people up.

What embarrassments.

I'm not buying some fool's nonsense, which was probably seen by the two people you quote in the exact place where it originally appeared, which was as some random Schmoe's reply in Massively's "Crushes Hopes and Dreams" blog. I know because I saw it, too, and in fact I am the one who quickly jumped in with an actual link request, which the guy refused to give and then quickly moved on, lol.

The kicker? THIS IS THE ORIGINAL POST IN MASSIVELY'S THREAD, COPIED DIRECTLY HERE: If a Trion representative is telling the truth, they refused an $80 million deal with no negotiation.I didn't typo that, and I fact-checked: Yes, they are refusing to sell off a game they have absolutely no interest in keeping going for 80 MILLION. They don't want the game, and they don't want anyone else to have it either.

These "two people" you quote, Brillig, are merely contorting this other guy's b.s. Where does it even say TRION were the ones offering? How can you even be sure this "original b.s. dude" wasn't talking about PS offering money to NCSoft, and some Trion employee happened to know them and find out about it? And it's all nonsense anyway.

Sorry, but until you see it by a red name, don't believe it. Much like MishiLove and the other guy (Monkey something?) who appear to have since disappeared from these boards, that random poster in Massively's thread was obviously just looking for attention.

Yeah, he corrected it later. But now I can't change the title. So I changed the post at least, lol.

Poor Hitstreak. You can tell this is as hard on him as it is on us. I'm grateful for his strength of character, though.

And he said he can't speak about whether or not Paragon is incorporating under another banner. But let's hope they are in some fashion.

Well, one thing I noted right away was that while Lineage 2 and Aion both moved to a new payment login system online, CoH as well as Guild Wars 1 did not.

Things aren't lookin' too hot for GW1 right about now.

"Reverse engineering" = illegal private server, something I seriously doubt would be allowed on Kickstarter for oh, about a zillion different reasons.

And personally, although I would cheer on any fan-made attempt at a game of some sort, a bunch of "fans" aren't the type of dev team I would pay kickstarter funds to, and I suspect not many other people really would, either. Even many pro teams go bust.