psychabilly

I think in my experience as playing a rupter that the rupter powers I play are indeed under powered when compared to defender version. I play a sonic/sonic at lvl 50 and in no way can you say my buffs and debuffs are anyway near that of a defender, they also have irresistible debuffs, rupters don't, on top of their inherent. My rupter gets scourge which starts at 50% of my targets health with just a few % chance to kick in at 50% health this gives me about a 2% damage advantage over my defender counter part. As the main damage AT on villians at range this is [censored] poor.

I understand that there are rupters that are able to deal better damage than a lot of defenders, but it isn't the case for every rupter AT.

When comparing like for like with rupter and defender, rupters do in fact come out as a poor man's defender so I hope that these ATs will soon be looked at but I ain't gonna hold my breath for it.

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Dont mind even if it fails

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Its a matter of how long it takes not a matter of if it fails

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well i cant do during the day but evenings are fine

Please am very interested in doing this SF my alt is

Empusae lvl 50 sonic/sonic with shivans and nukes.

My partner is also interested playing

Chakyra lvl 50 fire/thermal with shivans and nukes

Globals are me B00MER and chak is zhaan, Dont mind even if it fails just wanted to get the experience of doing the mission under my belt really.

Im not so sure on the pvp is balanced issue, i was reading on the usa forums a comparision between like for like corrupters and defenders and it turns out defenders are far more capable of issuing more damage and better buffs/debuffs than any corrupter. They back up their statements with figures, i for one was shocked to see it all writen out and the result but it does match my experiences in the zones too. villians are underpowered and most ppl are aware of it too, like where are all the pvp uber vilian groups i have never seen 1.

Its my understanding that the invis/shealth do not stack with superior invis but the defense bonus does.

Yeah Chakrya a fire/thermal corrupter and empusea a sonic/sonic corrupter would like to jion too, happy with any times.

Chakyra global is zhaan
Empusea global is B00MER.

Well once bitten twice shy, its goona be hard to listen to some ppl again without questioning motive now but still that maybe a good thing.

Another lvl 50 corrupter, grats chakyra now HEAL me god darn it

Grats Doc you got your boys to 50 and all with asbos intact too

I think my top gun players are based on zone pvp, arena leaves me cold but thats not to take away any skill that arena pvp players have just my experience. It would have to go to those players that come into a zone and can turn any pug team around and bring out the best in the players on that team, theres few ppl like that but for me they have keep my interest in the game and continue to challange me on how i play, i will not name them but im sure they know who they are. Keep that work up as the difference you make is noticed

Sonic Barrier gives resistance to toxic damage, as for my feelings on spines, well if im dying so fast that my rest button hasnt had time to recharge against a spines scrapper i simply leave the zone.

Can a blaster and a corrupter team ? if so then count in

Zhaan ENG/ENG blaster
Empusae Sonics/Sonics corrupter (not quit 50 yet but will try to lvl up)

OK i will eat the words that i have written after a marathon of pvp yesterday only to stop for the hami raid, i found myself teamed in some fantastic villian teams most of which where corrupters. Spine regen scappers were falling like flies even after insp popping lol.

My flat mate teamed on the hero side and out of interest i asked what the tactics of the heroes were and why i was being singled out if at all, it did turn out it wasnt the fact i was an easy kill but because on 1 of my powers one i think nothing of but one the heros felt was annoying, my dispersion field.

Some of the posters are right i do read too much into things but sometimes its difficult not to when you cant see the answer to your problem, but thank you for your replies [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

OK to prove my point, last night i was playing my corrupter in siren and somebody took there PB in to try him out, we had 2 fights both i won, at this the PB declared that PB are rubbish at PVP. Now i can only conclude from that statement that the PB felt that his alt was rubbish because a corrupter had killed him and he couldnt kill a corrupter, basically the bench mark for an easy kill is a corrupter no matter how many times that said corrupter debuffs/buffs.And not matter how good and how skilled that corrupter is.

Unless its more personal than that, in that infact im just so terrible at pvp its me thats the lowest bench mark

HUMMM i think most replies have got me wrong lol, Corrupters can be good yeah i have seen them played them but at the end of the day if i see a corrupter in Sirens i dont think "i must take that corrupter out as if i dont it will make life difficult, instead my first thought is i will take that corrupter out because its an easy kill"

This thought dosent apply to defenders i take a defender out because he will always make my pvp life difficult. That to me is where corrupters are failing i shouldnt be thinking that corrupters are easy kills i should be thinking the same as i do about defenders but i dont and the reason i dont is based on experience in pvp zones.

I know also im not the only one to think that way and TBH i bet a lot of posters on here think the sameway too BUT WHY if all the different alts are so balanced why is it i only think this way about corrupters.

I feel corrupters get a rough ride in pvp zones, this isnt because of lack of damage or buff/debuff protential, or the lack of heal points if compared to other sets, but attitude.

My point being as a hero or in fact another villian i simply do not fear corrupters to me they are simple an easy kill yet if you compare this attitude to say a defender the same isnt true. I will kill a defender because that defender has the potential to make my pvp experience very difficult even tho it will do hardly any damage to me directly, this can not be said of a corrupter no matter how much he corrupts me he is still just an easy kill.

This may sound like a bold statement to make but it comes after playing a corrupter to the high lvl 40s and pvping a lot, i know im gonna get a load of posts saying their corrupter rocks but it still doesnt change the attitude i myself have and many others seem to have about them, they just dont seem to hold say the respect a defender or a blaster gets in pvp zones.

I must admit i find this a strange issue as some one who plays a sonic/sonic corrupter in pvp the times i use cage are rare, the times i have used it have been against certain scrappers and tanks and even then getting a hit on a spines/SR scrapper is rare, for me too its just a panic button to use to get me out of trouble.

I can see however how a team of /sonics could use this power to its advantage to win a battle but then a team of say controllers are as equally powerful if not more so than anything the sonics resonances set can offer. Just like every set it has its draw backs if you are having problems with being caged by a sonics team up with an Spines/ SR scrapper.

For me the main problem with corrupter's in pvp is the % chance for scourge to kick in, at 50% health scourge should start with a % chance but in my experience in pvp it just doesn't, in fact to make it work at all the target seems to have to be nearer 25% of its health.

This would explain why defenders seem to be harder to kill than a blaster when i play my corrupter as they continually heal them selfs into the this semi safe zone, it then turns in to a battle as to who has the most stamina to last the battle.

I to think corrupter's damage is in the right place compared with other alts but would like to see scourge get a small buff.

hehe SHANNON I'm much the same to be honest its just i found pvp really enjoyable yet the only villain i had at a higher level was a sonic/sonic.

I guess my main grip with it is that as a pvper i see very few corrupter's in pvp zones and see all the whining about being held and use of stealth yet i know that a sonics/sonics can over come these problems yet because Sirens is limited at lvl 30 a sonics player can do nothing about it as those powers which could help are out side the lvl 30 mark so yah kinda forced into being an offensive corrupter which the set does ok at but others do a lot better ). Maybe the new lvl 50 zone will be a better place to see a sonics/sonics shine in )

HI, well i play a sonic/sonic corrupter in pvp and she does just fine (mostly in sirens as the other zones are quiet)

I find that she can handle most blasters and controllers and is quite good at getting her rep up.The number of corrupter's in these zones is quite small so am usually teamed with stalkers and brutes but when other corrupter's do come in the resulting affect can be amazing, last night i teamed with a thermal who hadn't pvp with that alt at all yet we where taking on scrappers and tanks and doing OK too.

My tips would be for a sonic/sonic take screech as the stun works well on blasters, controllers and defenders it even shuts down those pesky Stormie's and slot it for acc and recharge, sirens song can toggle drop bubble defenders out of there bubble so take that it if u can and do take sonic cage too if u are alone and a scrapper attacks its best to cage them and flee.
The only thing i wish i could use in sirens is clarity as most ppl will take invis and villains have no real means to counter it other than acc pills but maybe that will be changed, i hope anyway.

Oh yeah if u see a blaster running defiance u have the best attack possible to use thats your inherent scourge, i love watching blasters flying around with about 30 health points 1 shooting MMs and other corrupter's they cant 1 shoot u if u have your dispersion shield on and they soon get the wrong end of scourge if you know what i mean.

As for shields i have only taken 1 because the teams in pvp zone are so unbalanced i need my alt to be able to stand only as much as she can again i hope this will change as more corrupter's come into pvp and i can start being a good corrupter that has decent shields too, a plus note on sonics shields are you don't have to cast it as many times as a thermal does as the shield lasts longer.

One other tactic i use too is to watch and pick your targets well, if there are big battles going on watch for those that have little health points left and are trying to flee with scourge you can bring them down in seconds and means alts like brutes and stalkers can stay in the battle longer with out chasing the odd runner use the /follow macro to do this there only hope then is to use the land scape to get out of line of sight and few players either know about it or don't know that you are following them.

I haven't taken acrobatics because normally i can keep my target stunned or under control with the sonic knock back long enough to kill them and would rather take the invis pool set which i will do later on a re spec.

I know may ppl don't like sonics as I'm not sure but think that sonics damage type is one that is most resisted, that is why you don't see many sonic blasters or blappers but i do just fine and have a ton of fun with her)

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I use hover on both my pvp alts the one main reason i take it is it stops knock back which means i can get another shot in with out wasting time having to pick myself up again of the floor it can be a life saver. Also if youre quick enough u can flip between hover and fly which helps with endurance use.

I notice also knock back is a very useful tool in pvp as again it gives u more time to get another shot off before ur target can. But it kind of falls apart if ur target has some kind of knock back protection like hover.

But i guess like most powers its how u use them that makes the difference between its being a rubbish power and a good one.

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The reason i say fly over hover is because fly also functions in the same way as hover in knockback situations plus is much faster for maneuverability.If u use hover to avoid knockback and try to maneuver u are likely to end up licking the floor cause u are too slow.

The only reason to prefer hover over fly in pvp is

1)if u cant afford the slots for end reduction that you might need

2) you wanna sign a death contract for being too slow and really not agile in terms of maneuvering around.

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But i guess like most powers its how u use them that makes the difference between its being a rubbish power and a good one.

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I am sorry but in the case of fly and hover is more a question if u wanna spare 2 slots for end reduction or not.But then again if u pick hover u gonna need 3 slots anyway for slotting speed inside.So you end up in the same root as with fly.

Fly>hover in pvp thats for sure.

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Dont get me wrong im not trying to say that hover is better than fly with regards to maneuverability as it simply isnt but it does offer better knock back resistance than fly not the same resistance, if u are hit with knock back whilst in hover u spin once in the air giving u time to shoot off another hit if u are hit with knock back whilst in fly u are knocked up/back/down a few yards and for some out of hitting range for some powers.

As far as being agile, will there are times when it isnt needed why would you wanna waste endurance and have lower knock back resistance when in one or two hits your target is gonna be dead again this comes down to the use of the power as u flip between fly and hover.

As far as slotting these powers yeah i agree but the usefulness of the powers which the OP was talking about i assume, was not in slotting skills but inits actual use in pvp.Personally flipping btween the 2 is a pain and i do spend most of my time in fly, but when i can i will use hover when the situation allows me to, but that could be said about other powers too like whats the point on casting flash when blind will do.

I use hover on both my pvp alts the one main reason i take it is it stops knock back which means i can get another shot in with out wasting time having to pick myself up again of the floor it can be a life saver. Also if youre quick enough u can flip between hover and fly which helps with endurance use.

I notice also knock back is a very useful tool in pvp as again it gives u more time to get another shot off before ur target can. But it kind of falls apart if ur target has some kind of knock back protection like hover.

But i guess like most powers its how u use them that makes the difference between its being a rubbish power and a good one.

Yeah interesting topic, personally yeah i like it and use it, it adds to the feel of the game, but the trash talk i use doesn't have any bad language in it in fact the harshest word i think is [censored] but even then its used in a comical way , making my alt more comical than the insult its self.
Having said that i have received some really nasty private tells from ppl that are way over the line and they clearly cant tell the difference between fun teasing and personal abuse.
Trash talk doesn't need to have bad language in it to be funny, infact the best ones have very little to none in at all and its those that me chuckle at my keyboard.

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I seem to remember seeing Colonel Greek (on my flatmates computer) faceplanting quite a few times after being hit by scourge last night.

Seems nobody is invulnerable.

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Whats so funny about that story?

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LoL i thought it was funny

Well i have got my Sonics/Sonics up to lvl 36 now and its been an interesting career but regards to your question, well;

Disruption field, I personally took and quickly regretted it, its a big endurance user and because Brutes unlike Tanks cant manage aggro that effectively the said aggro would turn on me, unless i was hidden behind a wall or something. So for me it was a big no no.

Howl, again i took this power and respecced it out again, i found that i was only teaming in small teams or soloing so howl seemed of little benefit as when soloing i would use Sirens song, Howl would just wake them all up again. But its an excellent power if u team a lot in big teams.

Liquefy, Hmmmm this should be my next power to take, i haven't had any experience with, but i am going to take. All the reports i can find on it say its the worst final power on any set with too long a recharge, not lasting long enough when cast and its effects like KB and debuffs hardly noticeable, but like i said i will take it as i wanna see for myself how bad this power really is.