Sonic/Sonic Corruptors?


Filth_EU

 

Posted

Hey guys,

I recently realised I have seen hardly any sonic/sonic corr...nor have I seen one with either a sonic primary or secondary and a different type for the other powerset.
Why is this? Are they really that awfull? Cause it seems to me you get a great deal of dmg resistance debuffs. Wouldnt this be very nice against stuff like brutes/tanks? Or am I missing something that makes them awfully bad? (cause I honestly don't remember seeing a single one!!!)


 

Posted

I've teamed with one, it's very good! It's got the best set of +Res shields and some good -Res debuffs plus the best anti-mezz there is for villains (Clarity). I suppose it's not as popular as Thermal or Kinetics because it's not a flashy or as obvious as those sets, it also doesn't have a heal and has a couple of lame powers (Liquefy and Repulsion).


 

Posted

Thermal has better res shields, but the mez protection should be really useful for PvP


IN MEMORIUM OF GAYBABY
CRUELY TAKEN FROM THIS WORLD WHILE SO YOUNG

 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
Thermal has better res shields, but the mez protection should be really useful for PvP

[/ QUOTE ]

If you add Sonic Dispersion (9.375%) to one of the other shields (15%) = 24.375% which is better than Thermal's 20%? no?


 

Posted

Hmmm Filth has a point...this does give better shielding

Something about damage debuffs, I read somewhere that if something is resistant to damage he is automatically also resistant to resistance debuffs. So if something has 90% dmg resistance to smashing/lethal, he also has 90% resistance to a damage debuff for smash/lethal dmg. Ofcourse few things have 90% damage resistance to anything anymore (under normal conditions). Still, is this true? And is the effect strong enough to make the sonic debuffs fairly weak?


 

Posted

Ah yes. I seem to be permanently thinking about PvP these days, and noone stays still long enough to keep in the larger bubble.


IN MEMORIUM OF GAYBABY
CRUELY TAKEN FROM THIS WORLD WHILE SO YOUNG

 

Posted

Hmm it seems */Sonic Resonance could be nice in PvE in teams, but the use in PvP is limited. You are simply to reliant on teammates to really make it work I think. The only usefull ones seem Sonic Siphon and Sonic Dispersion, which just isn't enough IMO.

Currently I'm thinking of either Radiation or Dark as secondary. Both seem to have powers that let you slow foes and most importantly decrease their resistance even more. Are there any opinions on which of these (or any other) set would go decently with Sonic/* for a decent PvP char?


 

Posted

in PvP sonic is great for it's Sonic Cage, bubbles and Clarity. The self bubble is real handy too, especially if you get acrobatics and some kind of res shield for a patron power. You'll be a Brruptor!


IN MEMORIUM OF GAYBABY
CRUELY TAKEN FROM THIS WORLD WHILE SO YOUNG

 

Posted

That's team PvP tho...I'm not really to fond of buffing teammates continuously after lvling my /kin. (I'm fine with doing it on him but want something different now)
/rad is more about debuffing the enemy, which isn't just different, it also means you have a use for it yourself, and not just your teammates.

I've currently got this idea for a Sonic/Rad build:

---------------------------------------------
Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
---------------------------------------------
Name: Name ?
Level: 41
Archetype: Corruptor
Primary: Sonic Blast
Secondary: Radiation Emission
---------------------------------------------
01) --> Scream==> Dmg(1)Dmg(3)Dmg(3)Acc(5)Rechg(36)
01) --> Radiant Aura==> Heal(1)Heal(5)Heal(7)
02) --> Shriek==> Dmg(2)Dmg(7)Dmg(9)Acc(9)Rechg(34)
04) --> Accelerate Metabolism==> Rechg(4)Rechg(11)Rechg(11)EndMod(25)EndMod(27)EndMod(27)
06) --> Howl==> Dmg(6)Dmg(13)Dmg(13)Acc(15)Rechg(25)
08) --> Shout==> Dmg(8)Dmg(15)Dmg(17)Acc(17)Rechg(21)
10) --> Enervating Field==> EndRdx(10)EndRdx(37)EndRdx(37)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Radiation Infection==> TH_DeBuf(16)TH_DeBuf(19)TH_DeBuf(19)EndRdx(21)EndRdx(37)EndRdx(40)
18) --> Swift==> Run(18)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22)EndMod(23)EndMod(23)
24) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(24)
26) --> Screech==> Acc(26)Rechg(40)Rechg(40)
28) --> Lingering Radiation==> Acc(28)Rechg(29)Rechg(29)Rechg(31)
30) --> Choking Cloud==> EndRdx(30)EndRdx(31)EndRdx(31)
32) --> Dreadful Wail==> Dmg(32)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Rechg(33)Rechg(34)Rechg(34)
35) --> Amplify==> Rechg(35)Rechg(36)Rechg(36)
38) --> EM Pulse==> Acc(38)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)
---------------------------------------------
01) --> Sprint==> EndRdx(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Scourge==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
---------------------------------------------


Think we should go to bed yet? LOL


 

Posted

If you want a super-aggressive Corruptor I would consider Cold Domination as a secondary it looks to me like the nasiest in de-buffery there is; you can essentially ignore the shields since being +Def they're much less useful than +Res.


 

Posted

I got a sonic/sonic corrupter lvl 36 but i cant say how good it is because i have no other corrupter to compare it to so i'd be all theory on that one but i am well happy playing one

When i look at the herobuilder though, thermal radiation does look to me as much more powerful than sonic resonance and more useful to have in pvp, but it also seems too much like a repackaged empathy set (of which i have played), so i'd sooner be playing something different anyway.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

Posted

[/color]<blockquote><font class="small">Antwort zu::[/color]<hr />
That's team PvP tho...I'm not really to fond of buffing teammates continuously after lvling my /kin. (I'm fine with doing it on him but want something different now)
/rad is more about debuffing the enemy, which isn't just different, it also means you have a use for it yourself, and not just your teammates.

[/ QUOTE ]
I guess I have to disagree here. Well, not on everything anyway, just the part about /kin having less use for the Corruptor himself. /rad ist fine. I like my ice/rad and I think sonic/rad will be a nice combo, but a sonic/kin is not really a buff-bot.
/kin has two powers that do not benefit yourself directly. One of them is speed boost and most of the team will want to have it all the time. So what? Just use a /bind_load_file and the occasional buffing is hardly disturbing, especially in smaller teams.
In fact, /kin has a devastating combo at it´s disposal and this combo is hasten + syphon speed. Used and slotted correctly you will have perma-hasten whenever you need it and combined with sonics it lets you stack -res debuffs like crazy. This is an EB/AV killer. (I was quite astonished as I took on one of those nasty longbow ballistas together with a brute and he was down for the count in no time... and the brute was quite delighted about the rapidly increasing amount of damage per hit although he started the fight with almost full fury.) Well, it has it´s weakness, though: It´s not only devastating to your enemies, it´s also devastating to your endurance. But having a second /kin or a /rad at hand alleviates this problem a whole lot.




If it has
eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.

 

Posted

Actually once you hit 35 you will never have end issues again as a /kin. I never said /kin has no usefull powers for yourself, I only said I didn't want to go through the whole teambuffing thing again. Because with SB, which only lasts 2 minutes, you ARE spending a lot of time buffing when on an 8 man team. Not to mention planting siphon power/fulcrum shift correctly so you hit as many teammembers as you can.
The fact that /rad is more about debuffing enemies makes it quite different from /kin. Don't get me wrong tho, I absolutely LOVE /kin, and think it's just about the coolest powerset I've had on any char so far. I just don't want ANOTHER 40 lvls of it :P


 

Posted

Firstly (and remember this!): Two accuracy in attacks. Say it with me now, "Two accuracy in attacks". The -def in RI won't help you enough to hit.
Secondly: For PvP some kind of fast, unsupressed movement is a great idea. Combat Jump + Hurdle, couple of slots in each is great. And don't ever stop leaping around like an idiot
Thirdly: Villains need buffers! If every corruptor took a buff if they have one available it would really help the PvP situation for us bad guys. A buffer on a team can make a huge difference, especially if said buff is speed boost. And stacked shields. Mmmmmmmmmm

Oh, and I'm not really convinced choaking cloud is any good for PvP. Mind you, I've never actually tried it in PvP either so I could be wrong. There is something about hearing all those bad guys gurgle in PvE that makes this power special


IN MEMORIUM OF GAYBABY
CRUELY TAKEN FROM THIS WORLD WHILE SO YOUNG

 

Posted

I have a dream...that one day we'll see little */Kin Corruptors and little */Sonic Corruptors holding hands with little */Thermal Corruptors...on one team, buffing each other and a balanced group of Villain ATs like crazy..running around an alternate future in Atlas Park, beating the [censored] out of the Heroes...I may not get there with you, but I have been to the mountaintop.


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
I have a dream...that one day we'll see little */Kin Corruptors and little */Sonic Corruptors holding hands with little */Thermal Corruptors...on one team, buffing each other and a balanced group of Villain ATs like crazy..running around an alternate future in Atlas Park, beating the [censored] out of the Heroes...I may not get there with you, but I have been to the mountaintop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Can I get an Amen?

AMEN!


IN MEMORIUM OF GAYBABY
CRUELY TAKEN FROM THIS WORLD WHILE SO YOUNG

 

Posted

[/color]<blockquote><font class="small">Antwort zu::[/color]<hr />
/rad is more about debuffing the enemy, which isn't just different, it also means you have a use for it yourself, and not just your teammates.

[/ QUOTE ]
Ah, ok, I think I was just a little bit confused about that little word "just". So, I thought that you might have said that your /kin powers would not help you directly.
And I am really looking forward to level 35. Ying Long is one of my smaller chars, but fortunately this is not too far away anymore. "Your endurance is MINE!"
I can completely understand why you don´t want to play another /kin. Actually I am even more extreme concerning my chars´ powersets. I like all ATs and although I have multiple corruptors I don´t like the idea of having one and the same powerset on more than one. I will even delete one of my 40s (and replace him with an elec/elec brute) since I have another corrupter with ice/ that I enjoy more (my ice/rad ). Too many char concepts and just twelve char slots on Zukunft...




If it has
eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.

 

Posted

HI, well i play a sonic/sonic corrupter in pvp and she does just fine (mostly in sirens as the other zones are quiet)

I find that she can handle most blasters and controllers and is quite good at getting her rep up.The number of corrupter's in these zones is quite small so am usually teamed with stalkers and brutes but when other corrupter's do come in the resulting affect can be amazing, last night i teamed with a thermal who hadn't pvp with that alt at all yet we where taking on scrappers and tanks and doing OK too.

My tips would be for a sonic/sonic take screech as the stun works well on blasters, controllers and defenders it even shuts down those pesky Stormie's and slot it for acc and recharge, sirens song can toggle drop bubble defenders out of there bubble so take that it if u can and do take sonic cage too if u are alone and a scrapper attacks its best to cage them and flee.
The only thing i wish i could use in sirens is clarity as most ppl will take invis and villains have no real means to counter it other than acc pills but maybe that will be changed, i hope anyway.

Oh yeah if u see a blaster running defiance u have the best attack possible to use thats your inherent scourge, i love watching blasters flying around with about 30 health points 1 shooting MMs and other corrupter's they cant 1 shoot u if u have your dispersion shield on and they soon get the wrong end of scourge if you know what i mean.

As for shields i have only taken 1 because the teams in pvp zone are so unbalanced i need my alt to be able to stand only as much as she can again i hope this will change as more corrupter's come into pvp and i can start being a good corrupter that has decent shields too, a plus note on sonics shields are you don't have to cast it as many times as a thermal does as the shield lasts longer.

One other tactic i use too is to watch and pick your targets well, if there are big battles going on watch for those that have little health points left and are trying to flee with scourge you can bring them down in seconds and means alts like brutes and stalkers can stay in the battle longer with out chasing the odd runner use the /follow macro to do this there only hope then is to use the land scape to get out of line of sight and few players either know about it or don't know that you are following them.

I haven't taken acrobatics because normally i can keep my target stunned or under control with the sonic knock back long enough to kill them and would rather take the invis pool set which i will do later on a re spec.

I know may ppl don't like sonics as I'm not sure but think that sonics damage type is one that is most resisted, that is why you don't see many sonic blasters or blappers but i do just fine and have a ton of fun with her)


 

Posted

After i saw the first line of your post i thought "huh! did i write a post saying she was no good in pvp?" If anything i am ten times more likely to say "i am no good in pvp".
I am more a suits me pve build atm because she is levelling up still, if anything i'd be one of those people who level up, finish game content (badge collector) then respec in a suits me pvp build. It is good to get ya input on powers i havent tried yet. The only pvp i can see me doing atm is in base raids and i am not quite built for that. I must say i am torn between going completely sonic/sonic or having patron powers thats how much i do like the sets.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

Posted

hehe SHANNON I'm much the same to be honest its just i found pvp really enjoyable yet the only villain i had at a higher level was a sonic/sonic.

I guess my main grip with it is that as a pvper i see very few corrupter's in pvp zones and see all the whining about being held and use of stealth yet i know that a sonics/sonics can over come these problems yet because Sirens is limited at lvl 30 a sonics player can do nothing about it as those powers which could help are out side the lvl 30 mark so yah kinda forced into being an offensive corrupter which the set does ok at but others do a lot better ). Maybe the new lvl 50 zone will be a better place to see a sonics/sonics shine in )