Wicked_Wendy

As Burnt said PLing in one form or another has been around since .. well probably day Two. It's hanged some since the old days due to the changes in Mentoring/exemplaring. Years ago a Farm would have 3-4 players actually defeating mobs while a couple Mentors babysat the low levels at the door. Thing was in those days those low levels were actually getting XP like they were 49 levels and INF and everthing else.. Now a one level can join a 50 level team and be raised to a 49 level but they still earn XP like they were battling 1 level foes. The huge advantage is team size and level of mobs. These days you can play at +4 X8 and grab a LOT more XP/INF/etc than back in the old days and even set the mission to add extra bosses or whatever. PL in th AE building and you could be running missions with nothing less than a lieutenant in sight.

Persoannly I rarely ever farm and the few times I have over the years I was to finish off a level before heading to bed or when there just wasn't anyone doing anything else. Between Task Forces and Trials I can level fast enough I see no real reason to run in circles doing the same thing again and again. But as I always say as long as you aren't violating the TOS .. there is no right or wrong way to play the game. If you prefer to farm.. have fun.

It all depends on what sort of concept you have in mind for a character. But I too have used Google a number of times to aid in selecting names. This has even including using Goggle Translator to covert a name I really liked that was already taken in English but I converted to.. Italian, Spanish, Latin, Etc.

As an example I recently created a Plant/NA controller and wanted a name similar to Mother Narue or Mother Earth.. I went to Google and looked up Mother Earth and then hit the Wiki site.. I found numerous names throughout Greek and Roman mythology that referrred to Mother Earth and Cyblele Rhea was born [note: Both Rhea and Cybele were alternate names for the Goddes Gaia known as Mother Earth]

An example of using the translator .. I had a DP/Poison blaster and I wanted a name similar to Black Widow.. knowing full well I'd never get that in English. I translated it to Italian and the Widow Black (Nera Vedova) was born.

I have even used sites I discovered through Google search to translate a name I liked into Elvish. Decide what concept you are going for and start surfing the web.

To be honest while Phantom had its problems (Jar Jar Binks for one) it wasn't that bad (no where near as good as the original trilogy but still watchable. The one that still has me shaking my head is Clone Wars.

Can someone explain how in movie 1, 4 whatever its supposed to be, Anakin is like 9 or 10 (if that old) and in Clone (clown) wars suddenly he's all grown up and courting the princess... who through some miracle of science doesn't look like she has aged a day? When Phatom ended did she decide.. " Hey that Anakin Skywalker is a great guy. I bet he'll look really HOT when he's older. I think I'll have myself frozen so I can date him when he's like 19." lol Of course we can also add that in all those years mentoring the future Darth Vadar Obi Wan looks alomst the same except we added a beard and slightly longer hair.. "Hey that makes him look decades older right? Umm wrong George

A new hope wasn't much better but by then my expectations were no where near a high .. I simply had to go and see them show HOW Akakin became Darth Vadar.

[DISCLAIMER: please note the Toilet brush is NOT the actual name of the SG in question simply one I made up to ptotect the dignity of the actual SG in question. If this accidentally matches the name of an SG out there ... 1) I apologize and ... 2) why in God’s name did you call yourself this? ]

Giving it further thought here are a few more “testimonials" I might have added:


The Toilet Brush .. 4 out of 5 Dentists agree it the SG to try for healthier teeth and gums

{hold up credit card and smiles} The Toilet Brush. Don’t leave home without it!

I lost 30 pound since I joined.. THANK YOU Toilet Brush

Tired of that dead end job? Why not do something about it? The Toilet Brush offers traiing in many in demand career fields. Give us a call today. Operators are standing by 24/7 to take your call.

Feel free to add any others as you see fit.....

Not sure that's quite right. Now from this brief8ing found on the wiki Primal Earth Infernal It does state our earth's Infernal comes from another dimension but at not point does it specify that earth is Praetoria.

Unfortunately the briefing on the Infernal we see on Praetoria in Marie Jenkin's arc has far less info... Praetorian Infernal . It only states that Infernal had no one like Numina to help calm him and help him control the demons within him. Just because they share a name doesn't necessarily mean they are one and the same. There is an Aurora on both Primal and Praetoria but they are two seperate women.

Now because we lack more data your idea could be the very reason we never face Infernal in the Trials. After his defeat when we battle him in Marie's Arc he may come to our Earth, meet Numina and become a hero.. But its just as plauable that another Infernal from Another dimension shows up on Praetoria (just as his Primal Earth counterpart does here) and turns to evil under the guidance of Diabolique.


There is one problem with your theory. I dug a bit deeper ad when Issue 1 was released on June 29, 2004 the Praetorians were added as a villain group COH ISSUE ONE with missions from Marie Jenkins. So for 8 years a 45 -50 level hero has been able to battle Infernal in Praetoria and during that same 8 year period the Primal Earth Infernal has been standing in Founders falls next to Numina.. Now I realize he has magic as an origin but to be in two compleetly different dimensiosn at the same time is an awfully hard spell to ccast and maintain for that long. It much more likely that they are two different Infernals from two different dimensions and why we never battle the Praetorian one may never be known???? Heck they actually bring Shadowhunter back from the dead and create another new Praetor in Neo Pendrgaon rather than simply have us face Dominatrix and Infernal.

VooDoo is right unless someone has a change of heart, doubtful, they have already stated the Trials involving Praetorians are done. Oh and to the OP there are TWO Praetors we never faced in a TF or Trial .. Infernal yes but you are forgetting Preator Duncan (AKA Dominatrix). YES she is in the DA arcs and even serves as one of the contacts there but we never get a chance to face her in combat. The only chance you get to battle either is doing Marie Jenkins arc in PI.

Ahhh yes how well I remember the "Where the heck is our moon base?" threads.

Now as for windows at base.. I understand we can't expect major inovations but we do have wall hangings which, in my oprion only (please no ranting), are pretty lame. how hard would it be to design a PICTURE that looks like a window and give us a couple options..

Outer Space (the pictire is a window frame with a black sky dotted with small bright lights (stars) and possibly a partial view of the earth below... I assume this space base is orbitting OUR planet since its where we fight bad guys? hehehe

City Scape .. Same concept just a widown frame with a static picture of the skyline of Steel Canyon or Skyway) They could even give the option of day or night time scenes here.

Under the Sea .. (please refrain from breaking into song here THANK YOU) once again same concept .. just a picture of a window frame with the scene outside being coral reefs and some fish .. maybe a whale or shark).

Underground .. Okay windows here seem a bit ??? unusual? But why not a window with a scene of an underground cavern filled with Stalagemites and Stalagtites (pardon the spellings there).

Absolutely none of these would require and moving parts .. its just a picture that looks like you are looking out a window. Now to TRY and do what I just described and have space ships shooting past the windows of your space base or fish swimming past the window of your underwater lair .. YEAH I could see that as a coding nightmare but we already HAVE the coding in place for a picture on a wall. Doesn't seem like a few more picture choices could be a game breaker... they already did it when they gave us the vet reward of COH comic book covers... again in my opinion.. they only really good looking pics we can hang on our walls!

/em pictures trying to play Jenga when the pieces are in flames. So how do we grab hold without getting third degree burns?

/Agreed Don't get me wrong there are plenty of skilled players out there doing trials that have simply gotten tired of just about everything else gamewise but the incarnate stuff and PL to 50 with any new character. But 50 +3 and even all T4 aren't really a GREAT indicator of skill. All a player has to do is find a GOOD league and stick with it and unfortunately they can coast to those levels. Sadly he seemed to have disappeared into the clutches of another MMO but I had a good friend that leade trials constantly and I teamed with every night. He didn't care if a player was 50 +3 or 50 +0 .. He looked for players that had good skills and helped the league. We had a good sized private chat with nothing but players he/we knew and knew they were good at their jobs and we'd run through 5-6 trials a night with NO problems (this was not 5-6 BAFs I am talking BAF, LAM ,KEYES, MOM, TPN, UG)! God I miss him

Really? Because I used that power with my WB/NA Corr yesterday. I soloed and everytime I approached a mob the following sequence occured:

1. Lay down Livegiving spores and stay inside the circle for constant heals

2. Debuff the highest level in the Mob.. ie Lieutenant or Boss

3. Use AoEs to damage entire mob

4. Reapply debuffs and continue to attack until nothing is standing

I completed the Midnighter Arc solo and thanks to Lifegiving spores never once found myself in any sort of danger to the point where I actually stayed inside every single mission, even after getting a complete, to defeat every single mob. I completed my Cape mission solo and then grabbed my 20 level costume mission and headed to Talos where I street hunted 30 Tsoo at around my level (20-22) instead of running around Steel defeating ones lower than me and used this same tactic. Is anyone planning to sit in one spot and heal for 27 hours straight? DOUBTFUL but the power itself has seriously good applications.. hardly worh any stupid power of the ..whatever award.

Opps almost forgot after hitting 20 I joined a Penny Yin TF and between my powers and a Plant/NA on the same team there was not a single death on the TF until the final battle in the reactor... When will people learn to clear the room before clicking the computers so they can deal with the huge ambush instead of dying because of it? Even then we had three die, including me, and then bounced back to take out the ambush, defeat Claymor and clear the reactor before leaving.

The set has a lot going on visually but it perfroms very well and the only people I can possibly see complaining would be serious SERIOUS badgers because it is keeping them from obtaining their debt badges in a timely fashion.

Is it time to rethink that a bit? After all the incarnate system, to some extent, does exactly what not being able to target yourself was supposed to be about. I have Brutes that now have three different Destiny powers at either t3 or t4 and can buff an entire 24 player league (including themselves). Just tel me what you need before we start and I'll switch! I have a Warshade that has earned two badges for HEALING teammantes since getting Rebirth. And now we have Hybrid which can, at two minues on and two minutes off, buff the entire League, or potentially hold entire mobs. At one point the only AT in game that had NUKES were Blasters and to a slightly lesser degree of damage Corruptors and Defenders but now any AT can select Ion as their Judgement power at do huge amounts of damage with very little end drain.

I don't think we need to create the old D+D Paladin that could lop off the head of a dragon with a single sword stroke and then heal the wounds of an entire army but is it so hard to fathom the idea of my BM/Thermal being able to cast buffs on herself as well as her teammates and pets? What good do any of those powers do me or my team if I'm the only one DEAD because I had no defense buffs?

NA report after day one.. I created a WB/NA Corruptor now sitting at level 17 after 4 DFBs, some street hunting in Steel and 2 Dibs. Water Blast is a great fit with NA and I see no reason I won't be able to tem or solo with this character. I also created a Plant/NA Controller and that is at level 19 after 5 DFBs and 3 DiBs. This is a great combination with the immobs and holds of Plant and the debuffs of NA leaving everything vulnerable and the heals and buffs of NA making it extremely hard to hurt anyone on a team. I have no intention of adding a BM/NA to the crew but I have a 50 level Beast Mistress and NA seems like it would work very well there as well. Hey make what you like and have fun.

Okay on to other issues .. still waiting on the much anticipated, by me anyway, rant about NA turning the game into a flower bed.

Yeah but the villains get to fight her .. *pouts* I do like the cut scene idea and that would explain why we never see her.

Ah don't forget this one too Gob ... Went to be, woke up to find ONE member of the team had logged on hours earlier and completed the entire trial solo because he couldn't stand waiting any longer. [this was not considered a BAD thing by most teams]

That was back in the days when if everyone logged off the mobs scaled back and a one man TF would have mobs designed for ONE MAN. Plus back then Posi was, as I recall, the only TF that had no AV battle at the end only bosses that scalled down to lieutenants if one guy was completing the trial.


Oh and someone else mentioned this YES Citadel did get a minor update a few years back. At one point there were three straight kill all missions, possibly the same trio we see now toward the end, that all used the exact same cave entrance in IP [it was located under one end of the bridge to Terra Volta]. The map(s) were much larger and in addition to the same entrance it was the exact same interior map .. the only difference being one time you battled Warwolves and Vamprii, the next Mekmen and the third basic human soldiers and some Galaxies.


Now to my list of things in TFs we need to see fixed..

1. Synapse .. We start with a defeat all followed by a street hunt and a talk to mission (positrion). Then we have three straight defeat alls followed by a patrol (always a favorite of mine .. no xp at all just run all over the zone clicking patrol boxes). After that patrol {SUPRISE} another defeat all followed by another patrol. Then just to add to the annoyance and frustration the first of the missions where a team could actually stealth to the boss and its minions is ALWAYS located deep inside Boomtown. With mission teleporters and now team teleporters available this isn't as awful as it used to be but still.. the FIRST time we don't have to actually kill everything inside a building we have to travel to another zone to do it?

2. Numina .. Already spoke on this LOSE THE STRRET KILLS! Oh and this is sort of a personal thing ... No idea if anyone else cares or not... Wedo this entire TF supposedly to find and rescue The Woodsman. Maybe we could actually make freeing the Woodsman from a few captures a part of the requirements to complete the TF? Not just defeat Jurassic and clear the room he's in!

3. Manticore ... Okay this is a two fer. Firts is there really a reason we need to have 2 street hunts in this thing? One in Brickstown, which at least leaves us in the same zone as the next two stealthable missions. But the second is in Crey's Folly and more often than not here is exactly how it plays out. We travle to Kings Row and free the councilman and then head to CF to defeat Crey. Once that's over we head to another zone (sometimes right back to KR) to complete the final mission. Okay I did say it was a two for one ... through out the entire TF we supposedly are chasing down Countess Crey and when we enter the final mission who o we get to battle? Hopkins her bodyguard. Now at some poit this guy may have actually been a threat but these days its embarassing how fast almost any team can defeat him. I know I am NOT the only person that feels this way because I have been part of a lot of short after TF discussions.. How about letting us actually fight Countess Crey!


Having suffered through a number of the old Positrons to get TF commander I must say I am very impressed with the revamp. Personally I never disliked the Old Sister Psyche TF it had a lot of missions that could be stealthed if you wanted or you could take all day grabbing XP. Obviously at the very least it needed to be renamed when SISTER P died in the SSA and was replaced with Penny Yin. That said I also enjoy the new format of the Yin TF. So the Devs are gradually making improvements and I think there is a real chance we'll see more changes in the future. One big diffrence you notice with the two revamps is travel time. The old Posi took you on a tour of every zone they could find that a 10-15 level could possibly survive in (if they were lucky). The two new ones don't do nearly as much zone hoping. Part one send you to Atlas Park for one mission.. all the rest are in Steel. Part two has one mission in Steel and then we move on to Faultline where we stay until the TF is complete. Same with Penny Yin. Sister P had you travel to numerous zones before the end.. the YIN TF NEVER leaves IP!

Keep it up guys you are doing ok!

It used to be that in order to get marie you either needed Tina or others to intro you or through completing a Safeguard and getting an intro from the Police but these days at level 45 she now shows up under the find contact button that appears when you pull up your contact list. Not only don't you need anyone to introduce her anymore but through that tab you could be in Atlas Park and be instantly teleported to her. Times and procedures change By the way the same is now true of Tina McIntyre at 40 for those looking to defeat all the PRAETORS before level 50 + whatever.

Oh my My apologizes all for the Red Herring!

Yeah but mine is BIGGER and it's RED

A few I have used to add a touch of humor to that LONG wait:

* Don't they just look so darn cute when the fall asleep at the keyboard like that.

* All I had was a purple button. I pushed it and now someone named Neo keeps sending me tells and asking about the Matrix? What's that all about?

* It's the GREEN button <-------- The one on this side.

As always Steel your post makes me smile, laugh, giggle, ROFL, LMAO .. oh my I think I may have just wet myself.