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/this.

If I could sign twice, I would.

Well, if that represents the wealth of, say, the top 10% (which is one serious spitball figure), that still lets us ...

... completely make stuff up about how much the other 90% has.

Strange experience I had once...

I was RPing a... let's say, unique-looking character, with some other roleplayers. I had a couple of these "tools" come up and start making rude and / or risque comments to my character, in heavy Leet Speek. The other characters tried to "defend her honor", but she said she was used to jerks, and nothing these guys could say would really hurt her feelings.

Then I got a tell from one of them, "O R U RPing? Perten u r teh char, and stuf?" (in heavy Leet, so it took me a moment to translate).

"Yeah", I said. "We're RPing." ... pretty much expecting more backlash.

"OK SRY", came the reply.

And then, in Local, without the Leet, "I'm sorry. What I said was probably inappropriate. I didn't mean anything by it."

...

And my character and his had an in-character conversation, about the biases my character had to deal with based on her appearance, and how people tend to pre-judge others based on how they look, when that doesn't really actually say much about the person they are.

Kind of amusing.

...thus allowing you to judge their taste in clothes, sure.

I ain't rich, but I would never store in Gleemail. Or on the market, actually.

The only storage I have is low-but-not-impossible bids on always-desirable stuff, like LotGs, Respec Recipes, and desirable purples.

I'm not sure there's any reasonable way to account for all that.

I've known women who ... were endowed to a degree you claim is impossible. One wonders how they might feel, at you saying there are no such women.

Certainly, they are ... less common in real life than in the game; but... ...the game is a comic book simulator. A genre where women with this particular super-ability are quite common. And in my experience there are more reasonable women in the game than in the genre at large (as a percentage).

If your request is for a slider that, for lack of a better turn of phrase, has "more diversity in the lower range", I support your efforts, and agree with your desire to add more options. You may freely add as many options as you wish, as long as you don't remove any.

If your request is to take away the other end of the slider, well, then, I disagree. I rather like that end of the slider. It produces an effect that is altogether similar to the comix-pages of my fair youth.

...seems interesting and promising to me.

Is anyone on this channel? Are channels like this cross-server, and if so, would this not be... immensely confusing? ...is there a Virtue-only version of this?

Thank you, Biowraith. That's exactly what I was trying to say, but couldn't parse, in my head, for whatever reason.

I feel that on the whole the Shiny New Parts are pretty well distributed across 'gated' versus 'non-gated' content. As someone who plays in vast majority 'non-gated' - specifically, non-TF - content, I sometimes get jealous of the specific elements included in TFs but not Hero Tips (my personal fave content).

But then, I console myself with the content that's in Hero Tips, but not TFs (side switching, Alignment Merits, burning buildings, the 'rescue rogue bane spider' mission, and a bunch of other elements).

I'm hoping they do an issue with another 5+ tip missions (and better, another alignment mission) per 'range'. That'd make me a very happy camper. But if I 'have' to sit though 3 TF updates or add-ons in the meantime, that's okay with me.

Edit to note - A strong thumbs-down, actually, on "moral choices" arcs being limited only to Praetorians / new characters. That's new tech that's behind a gate ("must make new Praetorian"), and only behind a gate, with no indication of when it's coming out from behind that gate. Boo!

The content in Praetoria was / is similarly "gated" - you have to be a Praetorian (ie, a new character) to play.

The specifics are different, but the argument still stands - and Sam / OP already said "save it for the TF" is just his name for the theory / argument, not literal.

Edit to Note - I don't actually agree with the OP's proposal. I'm just pointing out that his argument is many 'new shinies' are only available to certain characters / playstyles, not literally that they're only on TFs.

I'm also not trying to pick on GG, her post was just the shortest to quote.

This idea is covered in Clever.

Although I wouldn't have the lottery be for Inf. I'd make it for something exclusive-ish, that gets used up...

...like a Gold Title. Or a special jetpack. Or other such thing that lasts, say, 24-48 hrs of game-time.

Special enough that everyone wants it, but not so special that anyone needs it. And make sure people can buy multiple tickets in this draw!

/e goes away to think on this...

Yeah, I had a good SG going where we ran missions IC each night. It was massive fun. When it crashed, I heard Sad Trombones for days.

But it seems you can mostly find (1) a group that runs missions, or (2) a group that RPs.

I'll continue to reach for that rainbow, though!

This requires a Toon on Freedom.

Anyone wanna give the the Cole's Notes version, instead?

Edit - Not the Emperor kind.

Emphasis on Awful.

You appear to be suggesting that the flaw lies in the tickets - and, for some strange reason, the building itself.

I don't believe this would hold out, in practice. While farming for tickets is quite beneficial, possibly (probably) moreso than 'farming' conventional maps, you've actually done nothing to eliminate farms - in fact, you specifically note you haven't.

What AE needs, more than anything, is a feature by which dead (and, preferably, 'bad', but that's simply not possible - my trash, your treasure, and whatnot) arcs are pruned. Instant improvement.

(Exploits closed, too, but the regular game requires that, too.)

The only, but absolute, flaw with the AE system is the presence of Sturgeon's Law.

I suspect Fulmens actually means Enyalios might have made things too easy...

Man, I could just sit and listen to this guy talk all day.

Do you have, like a radio show, or something?

Wait, what?

I was... told this was untrue, at least at one point (if not several).

If I'm beneath the level of the proc, the proc still fires?

If I can purchase ladders for 4 gold, break off the steps, and sell back the two 10' poles for 3 gold each, and there's nothing in the game to stop me from doing so, am I cheating? No, the game allows it, and if it's allowed, it's not cheating. Am I exploiting? Yes - the game shouldn't allow it, but does.

The difference there is pretty clear, to me.

Exploits are using game rules to accomplish game functions that are not intended. Using Hami-O's to boost stats the designers never intended them to boost is therefore an exploit; you don't have to use Leet Haxx to get the game-code to do it; just drop the Hami in. In fact, if I'd never read the Wiki, I wouldn't ever have realized doing so was considered an exploit. (Admittedly, or probably ever realized doing so was possible)

Cheating is altering game-code, game-logic, or game-rules to accomplish game effects that are not intended. I see it as... very hard, to cheat in computer games. The old Game Genie for the Nintendo was one. If someone made a "diablo de-randomizer" that'd be a cheat. Or most mods for games, that alter the game-files to make the game easier, constitute cheats.

One uses existing functions in the game to break the game.
One alters the rules of the game to break the game.

Similar in some ways; massively different in others.

That's how you can exploit, but not cheat.

(Note that I may well be guilty of not using the dictionary-definitions here, but they seem markedly different concepts to me; if 'exploit' and 'cheat' are synonyms, there clearly needs to be a word for the other concept I've put forth.)

Well, because the number of "dev-approved" exploits are quite limited.

Alright. Let's try this. The Hamidon Exploit. The devs have said it's an exploit. They intend to fix the exploit. They've asked not to use the exploit. In this matter, at least, it's similar to the MA exploits.

(Nobody much uses it anymore, though, making it kind of a bad example. And it's kept going for, like, literally years. But still.)

If the devs fix it tomorrow, should they also delete any characters with mis-slotted Hami-Os? Should they backtrack all the Inf those characters have earned, and take it away? Merits, too?

Or just prevent it from happening in the future?

Also -

I think this is a key portion of where our difference in opinion lies. I'm not sure you can "break" the game rules of a computer game by using game-functions. A comparison might be missile-jumping in Quake; it's something the designers didn't intend, and didn't expect. It's "cheating" only in a very subjective sense. The game code is doing exactly what it's supposed to; it hasn't been hacked, changed, or altered.

If you use the "guns and ammo" codes in Doom, or Quake, or whatever, is that cheating? If you use the Konami Code in Contra, is that cheating? Or playing an alternate game mode?

Similar idea. Boss-Level-Henchmen is in the game code, even if it's not supposed to be. I'm not sure that asking, or insisting, that people play the way you personally want instead of the way the game allows is... prudent. Even if the 'you' involved is a dev.

Also - Note that I'm not saying it's not an exploit. It clearly is. But I'm strongly opposed to "punishment for infractions".