Taiyanna

And it zero's out the *player's* endurance as well.

No, it's entirely the correct phrasing for it. If it was intended to be either of those conditions = badge, it would read "without anyone dying or without destroying any panels".

Especially when the released information on the next update is "Hey! Bucketloads and bucketloads of new content that IS for you! With more stuff each month!"

They have creams for that.

Tell me, what's it like underneath that tinfoil hat of yours?

The reminder/advertisement email sent out to inactive accounts didn't get there until past the start date for some people; others simply didn't notice the ad in time. Grace period = more people reactivating/buying longer subscriptions = more money.

Yeah, god forbid people actually be open and honest about hobbies they enjoy.

I must challenge you to a duel on the field of honor. *white glove slap*

But if you're going that route, there's no point to having the prize be IOs at all.

And either way, given that it's pretty much a forced pug, there'd be a LOT of ill will tossed around from the folks who just want inf, and those on the team that want the IOs, and who gets WHICH IO, and on and on. I'd rather be on the second place team where you get a clean split than deal with all that crap.

Yeah... with very few exceptions, everything I run is first come first serve of any AT. LGTF is the only one that comes to mind that I don't. (Other than Tin Mage and Apex, but I don't actually *lead* those... I let others handle THAT headache.)

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Wow, random hate dump. I think you're projecting attitudes onto me that aren't actually there. I'm not being 'intolerant' of anything, nor am I being anti-fun. It being POSSIBLE to do without holds doesn't change that it's ridiculously easier to do it with them- nor does it change that *every single pug* I've ever been in for it that didn't have the control available brickwalled at Hami and had to split.

I'm not pushing for requiring entire teams being an exact specific makeup, but as you put it- I play for fun. And on the LGTF, for a specific example, fifteen groups failing because they were unwilling to make ONE SLOT out of 8 go to a planned useful role isn't fun at all. If making things harder on the people involved is what's fun for you, that's fine, but being so rabidly "absolutely anything goes" that you can't deal with a single spot being saved for a role? Seems a hell of a lot more intolerant than the flip side.

Done it without holds, or done it without a control-type AT being responsible for the holds? That's a rather large difference.

Either way, the point stands- there IS stuff in the game where tossing together random players without any planning *can* result in an impossible task.

Mini-Hami, green mitos. It's not an absolute, 100% hard requirement, but it's WAY more trouble than it's worth.

Good luck on those hold-less LGTF runs, then.

I don't know if it was yours or someone else's that I was trying to get in on before, but I would like to throw up one small bit for people organizing them- if you've gotten to a point in organizing it where you're only taking specific ATs/roles, could you *let people know*? A whole bunch of people and I were just sort of quietly ignored while the teams sought ought the remaining buffers they needed. I could have saved myself around half an hour of trouble if anyone involved had just said they didn't need any more damage.

Well, it definitely pushes them towards a more likely situation of a god-mode scenario, but as always that particular problem remains in the hands of the person roleplaying it, not the system itself.

My primary RP toon is being RPd as an Incarnate now, yeah. Part of her main worries and motivations, after the intro arc, revolve heavily around the ideas and lore behind Incarnates, and more specifically the Well itself.

There's plenty of explanation in the lore. Just because it wasn't there before the i19 release doesn't mean it isn't there now, and the explanations we've been given mesh very well with the tiny scraps of information that were provided before. Naturally, it's by no means a *requirement* to roleplay the mechanical powers you get from it as Incarnate abilities, but the lore is definitely there.

Which is all just about the way things should be done in general. The behind the scenes mechanical portions of something don't need to have any actual impact on how they're roleplayed; the only reason that they're there is because it's impossible to program in every possible iteration of everything anyone could want to do ever. Our powers work pretty much the way we decide they work, and unless someone starts claiming their stuff works in a way that's just utter and blatant **** of the lore, I've got no issue.

That's debatable- the way the source is presented, it could easily be argued that the definition is simply someone that taps the Well for power, no matter how little. It's certainly stated enough that only Incarnates can resist the draining power Cole has.

Bingo. It really just makes a particular RP choice a lot more viable, makes certain things available to RP as without having to even stretch the game lore to do so. Doesn't *make* you do so.

In the end, I love the options it's provided, and have really gone pretty hard to town on it; I've always enjoyed working out in-character justifications of how all the powers I actually use *work* from an IC perspective. My close RP-friends and I have all enjoyed figuring out how tapping energy from the Well "feels" to them, what working with the energy feels like and what they do to draw it out. The different kinds of components, I play off as it simply being easier to discover, or grow accustomed to different parts of the power by fighting powerful enemies of a different type; for her, it *can* be done by beating on exactly the same thing repeatedly (doing the same TF repeatedly and using shards), or by simple repeated, directed application of her powers (fighting mobs of any level anywhere), but the breakthroughs in understanding are much easier to reach if she varies her experience.

I can't resist...

OBJECTION!