SwellGuy

Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba

Fething?

Originally Posted by GreenFIame

Feel like Coh player are losing hope, more and more players are heading to Co and Dc, they losing hope in this fight, this battle.

We need to Boost Morale anyone got any Idea to how too do this.

Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex

The most damaging part of this debacle may be for MMO players in general. I think we all can accept the fact that MMOs close, but if the way this game was closed is considered standard and acceptable in this industry, we're all screwed, no matter what game we're playing.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville

NCSoft is the person who, when we were about to default on our mortgage, swooped in, bought us a new house, got us a big screen TV, asked us to invite all our friends over, then locked us in and set it on fire.

Originally Posted by General_CoH

I'd love to make this a poll, but can't find how, so I'll just ask.

If all your characters were deleted, your veteran status, everything (even forum posts), and you had to start from scratch, would you still continue to play this game, or would it be too much of a setback?

Originally Posted by Arcanaville

Given that City of Heroes is the home of the decimal point error, I have to conclude you're 11% behind Swellguy.

Originally Posted by NorvellDevelopment

In theory they could. But rational human logic and corporate ego logic don't always work the same.

For instance, in the corporate world, cancelling a profitable game might conceivably come across as 'bold' and 'daring' and a sign that they've got something so brilliant up their sleeves you'd be a fool not to invest in the company.

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

It's still a long shot - but the word "discussion" implies that NCSoft are at least prepared to listen - unless all it means is that Positron is using a sledgehammer to break down an NCSfot exec's door to arrange a "meeting".

Originally Posted by Mad Grim

That last 0.01% is fairly easy to put on ignore

Originally Posted by Friggin_Taser

Come on mods, you know you wanna.

Originally Posted by Forbin_Project

Glad to hear it. I hope others get at least a smile out of it as well. I may be a PITA in many respects but a little laughter is good for everyone right now.





I'm 110% behind Swellguy on this.

Originally Posted by TonyV

So let me ask this, and I really want serious answers because I'm in the midst of writing releases and communications: What if NCsoft agrees to let us or someone else purchase the IP and software?

Given that NCsoft wants to focus on other efforts, how would you, the City of Heroes community, feel if they came out and said something to the effect of, "Unfortunately, City of Heroes isn't part of our future, but we understand that you still want it to be part of yours," and opened the door for the game assets to be given or sold to someone else?

Originally Posted by Ironik

Here's hoping this works. This is an interactive map where you can place your location. I've never tried it before, so it's an experiment.

On the upper left it says "Additions" where you can choose a colored marker. I added mine in Blue, for hero.

City of Heroes Players

Originally Posted by Arcanaville

NCSoft is not our friend. NCSoft is not our enemy. NCSoft is not a bean counter, or a back stabber, or any of those things. NCSoft is a company. Its a building and some masthead. NCSoft doesn't have feelings, doesn't make decisions, can't be reasoned with or argued with.

NCSoft is a container of people. Some of those people probably wanted City of Heroes to go on. Some of those people wanted City of Heroes to end. That's probably always been true. On Friday, the latter group got what they wanted.

But while those people may deserve our antipathy, there are lots of others who don't. NCSoft is an easy target for anger, but its also a completely unfeeling target for that anger. NCSoft won't care if we're angry. NCSoft won't care if we boybott the company. NCSoft won't notice if the world ends tomorrow.

The important thing to understand is that while a certain amount of corporate-directed anger is understandable, its rather like hating Korea, or Earthlings.

Someone at NCSoft gave us a chance when not many others would have. Someone at NCSoft gave us the resources to expand the game beyond our expectations for five years. Those people may still want to see the game continue. They don't deserve our spite. Maybe some bean counter at NCSoft made this call. Then again, maybe this was not a financial decision at all: I've seen many corporate restructurings happen for political reasons more than financial ones, and political fights often have the most corporate bystander casualties.

Maybe someone at NCSoft could help us save the game. Hate NCSoft as an abstract entity, but remember that people make decisions, and NCSoft is composed of lots and lots and lots of people. As I've said for over eight years about Paragon Studios, NCSoft is not a Hive mind. While you hate the abstract entity, remember the people that exist within it.

I find the guy responsible for the shutdown, and he and I will have some words. Anyone who knows me in the real world, and has seen me in meetings, knows they will be interesting words. I'm definitely not known for being discrete. But I won't lob bombs at people I don't know for a crime I don't know they committed. That goes for the people behind Aion, the people behind Guild Wars, and even the suits at NCSoft. NCSoft is an easy target and I catch myself doing it as well, but NCSoft is not a thing that cares if I'm angry, and its not something I can extract revenge on. NCSoft is a thing on paper that doesn't care if it even exists or not.

People are the important thing. The developers and community people at Paragon are the important thing. The players of City of Heroes are the important thing. And for good and for bad, the people at NCSoft are the important thing. And the most important thing is to protect the innocent people while we punish the guilty people. Not burn an entire building down to catch a couple of twits.

That's should be the City of Heroes way. Except for Villains, but the devs hated villains anyway.

Originally Posted by Nethergoat

yeah, we were on the wrong end of a corporate ragequit.

Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan

Sorry Tony, but I disagree.

Sure, NCSoft have done a lot for us; but last Friday, our good buddy snuck up behind us, and stabbed us in the back.

Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed

Almost, thinking of going and having a drink.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

You'd think they'd at least look into making some kind of offline mode for the game and re-selling this to us for extra money. You'd be surprised how many people would buy that, though I've heard the City of Heroes server structure is too complicated. That's coming from people trying to host a "private server."