SunGryphon

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143. Pretend to be a female super-hero.

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But pretending to be a super-hero is okay, right?

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Never said I had a problem with males playing the role of a male super-hero. My problem is males playing the role of a FEMALE and leading on people to believe they are FEMALE IRL.

Not only that, but then taking it to the next level with involves sexual remarks that are unacceptable.

You should re-read the first 10 pages or so.

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I'm pretty sure you were against males in general playing female characters. Because that's what caused the uproar in the first place.

EVERYONE has agreed with you that people who lie about their gender IRL -for the purposes of disruption, aggravation, etc- are a bad thing.

It's the "guys roleplaying girls are bad" attitude that people are having trouble with.

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Actually I think the genre is MMOG...not MMORPG. Massively multiplayer online game, not necessarily Massively multiplayer online ROLEPLAYING game.

So roleplaying is actually not the focus of the genre. just to be clear.

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It says MMORPG right on the box, by the way, just to be clear.

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It also says it in the in the ad copy. I don't think there's any question that the game was designed and is marketed as an MMORPG, not just an MMOG.

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No one is saying that you can't do one or the other. I was just clarifying a mistaken statement, that City of - games are marketed as "MMOG", when that's not the case.

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I have resorted to making my own calendars, but there are no events on them. lol
I use them as my desktop image, and also print them out to write down events on my server.

May 2009 CoH Calendar
June 2009 CoH Calendar

I still have to make July's. I'll be doing it either tomorrow, or this weekend at the latest.

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they really need to put a portal or something to that room....

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I really think they should just open up access to the "Matrix Room" via the Arena, as it was meant to be in the first place. The functionality is already there. All they have to do is turn it on.



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Wow I've never seen that, that looks pretty cool!

I think it was Justice that had a higher percentage?

You might check down in the multimedia forum!

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What difference is it that someone wants to pretend to be someone else in a Massively Multiplayer Role Playing Game?

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Actually I think the genre is MMOG...not MMORPG. Massively multiplayer online game, not necessarily Massively multiplayer online ROLEPLAYING game.

So roleplaying is actually not the focus of the genre. just to be clear.

I can play side by side just fine with someone who is enjoying playing their character as a role, I just dont like when that role spills over into drama or weirdness.

That said, I personally dont RP, but have no problem with others enjoying that experience with their MMO... I just want to be clear that the genre of game itself is not in fact role-playing.

It is massive multiplayer online that is the true focus- how involved players choose to get with their characters is entirely up to them.

But after reading 20 pages of this, I can simply conclude that RPing is not fun for some, and it is fun for others.

I just like to smash buttons. Others might like to RP... to each their own, we can play side by side just fine ... unless things get wierd.

I dont do drama in a game I play to unwind after work. I have a wife for that.

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It says MMORPG right on the box, by the way, just to be clear.

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(lolz RP)

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I propose a new kind of RP.

lolcatgirl rp.

It will be epic.

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I will make a LOLCat Biblethumper.

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*laughs* Oh, dear lord. Someone has way too much free time.

( By the way, I think I've asked before but managed to miss the answer...how do you do the cycling avatars? )

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I've got a php script in the dedicated directory all the images are stored. It's really easy to set up, you can google "random image rotator" and get a ton of hits. Mine is set up for .jpg and .gif so any time I want to add new images to the rotation all I have to do is upload them.

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Generally needs your own webspace - you have to change the directory the avatar "image" is in to run a given type of image as a .php script (which requires certain permissions), make a script, rename it as an image (so when I made mine I simply saved it as avatar.gif or whatever) so the boards will take it. The one I used didn't come set up to do multiple filetypes though, and I'm a plug-and-hope .php user :P

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I'm happy to provide webspace and script to anyone who wants to set up their avatars this way.

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(lolz RP)

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I propose a new kind of RP.

lolcatgirl rp.

It will be epic.

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I will make a LOLCat Biblethumper.

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*laughs* Oh, dear lord. Someone has way too much free time.

( By the way, I think I've asked before but managed to miss the answer...how do you do the cycling avatars? )

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I've got a php script in the dedicated directory all the images are stored. It's really easy to set up, you can google "random image rotator" and get a ton of hits. Mine is set up for .jpg and .gif so any time I want to add new images to the rotation all I have to do is upload them.

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(lolz RP)

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I propose a new kind of RP.

lolcatgirl rp.

It will be epic.

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I will make a LOLCat Biblethumper.

He'll be back to normal, ungrouped status.

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I would be far more likely to start in GC if WW opened a branch there than I am now.

[/ QUOTE ] I start in GC all the time. If I want to go to WW, I just take a quick trip to KR. The next set of contacts are usually there anyway.

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And none of the broadcast nonsense (and this is not an MA comment). Besides it's not like I need the market or storage before level 5 any way.

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Ditto on this. I go to Galaxy for lack o' spam (of any kind).

Prexus for years, but I was a guide on Quellious for a couple. That was a blast

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Starting with the old EQ days where every guild had to have its token crazy girl who flirted everyone and stalked people and left messages on their phone and...

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Hrm...what server did you RP on in EQ, if I may? >.>

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My Guild had one of those too!

And what server were YOU on, Darktyger?

This thread is the first time I've EVER seen the "H" referenced as "honest". Every online experience I've had since '97, the "H" has been "humble".

"in my not so honest opinion" just doesn't make any sense at all.

I think it may have been prestige, not inf, but of course I can't find anything when I search!

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Thanks guys. What's the Oroboros trick you speak of?

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Take a character in the SG into Ouroboros and start any Flashback "TF". BAM! Instant self-Exemplaring, which means no XP but double Influence/Prestige.

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Arrg! This is one of my pet peeves. It's as bad as freaking out over clicking on glowies during the respec TF, this just doesn't die.

Exemplaring does one of two things.

If you are in debt, your debt is paid off twice as fast since the XP you receive isn't split. You don't receive influence/infamy.

If you are not in debt, you get influence/infamy equal to the XP you would have received. What it doesn't do is give you double influence/infamy.

ParagonWiki: Exemplar/Malefactor

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I thought it was true if you were level 50? Because I'm sure I remember level 50s talking about getting -quadruple- inf/prestige during double XP weekend?

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I guess I'm out of the loop of todays generation. Maybe I'm too old to understand.

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Oh, please, do you think we're that stupid? You come in here with the communication skills and attitude of a thug-wannabe punk teenager and now expect us to believe you're "old"?

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lol @ teenager

Actually, I come here with a Southern Redneck attitude. Cherry always calls me a stupid redneck.

I laugh.

You can call me all the names in the book brother. I've heard them all. It won't bother me one bit.

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My husband, who is from Alabama, roleplays female characters better than I've seen some females roleplay female characters.

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Funny thing. You pretty well described me there. From Alabama and am told I play females very well. Not that I try that hard, but I think that's the thing: most guys try TOO hard to play females.

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That's exactly what he says! He doesn't play girly-girls who giggle and tee-hee and flutter around. He plays strong, quiet, intelligent women who chuckle and wear actual clothing instead of bikinis

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I don't need to assume they were male. They were male. Some of the things that came out of their mouths, females dont say.

Period.

End of story.

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Um?

Like what I must ask

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I'm not going to repeat it here. But if you really need "proof", you're more than welcome to come to Champion and I'll give you a temporary invite to the SG so you can ask our other members about this issue yourself.

Things were said that just dont come out of females mouths, even in a RPing enviroment. That's just the bottom line. Things were said to myself, my girlfriend, and my other SG members what were totally unacceptable and really crossed the line. It really was some disgusting crap.

Again, that said, I have my opinions about RPers. If that makes you think less of me, so be it. I can live with that. I'm sure a lot of people think the exact same way I do and have had similar experiences. You've prolly pounced on them just like you have me. Thats fine, I didnt expect anything less.

I think its sad that some of you don't see the forest for the trees here. We played for these people for 6 months straight and the lol reasons we got were just that.

Some of you are either really ignorant to the people around you or just don't care. I dont know which is worse.

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What's really sad is that you now have this attitude towards roleplayers when it's really a couple of twits you should have kicked out of your SG at the first sign of "borderline harassment". It doesn't matter how good of a player they are, SG drama disruptions should be terminated ASAP.

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I guess I'm out of the loop of todays generation. Maybe I'm too old to understand.

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Oh, please, do you think we're that stupid? You come in here with the communication skills and attitude of a thug-wannabe punk teenager and now expect us to believe you're "old"?

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lol @ teenager

Actually, I come here with a Southern Redneck attitude. Cherry always calls me a stupid redneck.

I laugh.

You can call me all the names in the book brother. I've heard them all. It won't bother me one bit.

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My husband, who is from Alabama, roleplays female characters better than I've seen some females roleplay female characters.

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Something else I think thats being missed here is that War DOESNT have an issue with guys PLAYING on a chick toon, as he said, he has 1. What he IS saying is that he has a problem with a guy ROLE PLAYING as a female.. if you cant see that there IS a difference in those 2 thing's.. well.. meh.. perhaps you need to step outside and tell me what color the sky is in your world.

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There is nothing wrong with a male roleplaying a female, just like there is nothing wrong with a female roleplaying a male, or a male roleplaying a neuter, or a female roleplaying a transvestite, or a male roleplaying a cat, etc.

It is ROLE PLAYING. NOT REAL. ROLE PLAYING.

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*Bonk* Please reply to the post you're quoting rather than attributing stupid remarks to me.

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Sorry Darktyger, I had hit quote originally but then I had to step back from the keyboard and hit back to keep my cool, then when I did reply I forgot to quote again.

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Something else I think thats being missed here is that War DOESNT have an issue with guys PLAYING on a chick toon, as he said, he has 1. What he IS saying is that he has a problem with a guy ROLE PLAYING as a female.. if you cant see that there IS a difference in those 2 thing's.. well.. meh.. perhaps you need to step outside and tell me what color the sky is in your world.

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There is nothing wrong with a male roleplaying a female, just like there is nothing wrong with a female roleplaying a male, or a male roleplaying a neuter, or a female roleplaying a transvestite, or a male roleplaying a cat, etc.

It is ROLE PLAYING. NOT REAL. ROLE PLAYING.

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What planet do you guys live on where its a social norm (even online) for guys to pretend they are females?

I guess I'm just ignorant to the fact its acceptable. I can live with that.

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Well, if you look at today's news, the whole same-sex marriage debate is still going on in the United States...

The fact that it is a debate demonstrates that there aren't universal social norms regarding sexual identity and gender concepts.

If everyone agreed on an acceptable standard, there wouldn't be a debate.

Now. You don't think men playing female characters in an online game is acceptable. Fine. You're entitled to your opinion. I'm sure a lot of folks think like you.

But you must also accept that there are many many people who disagree, and don't see any problem at all.

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I can accept there are people who have no problem with guys playing girls. I know by posting in this thread, I was gonna shake the hornets nest so to speak. But my experience with RPers in this game was NOT a good one. It was terrible.

Therefore, I have strong opinions about those who RP. How do I know when you're RPing? How do I know when you're being honest?

As a small SG, we like to "know" the people we let in. We dont stand outside of Atlas asking every new alt to join. We dont recruit at all. We accept quality over quantity. I said before, they were great players. But I just don't get off on being around those people pretending to be someone else. I guess I'm out of the loop of todays generation. Maybe I'm too old to understand.

Or maybe you guys are just weird!

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Today's generation?

People have been roleplaying for thousands of years.

In more recent decades, the second character I ever roleplayed in Dungeons and Dragons in 1988 was the opposite sex. This is not a "today's generation" thing.

Haven't you ever got so caught up in a book that you couldn't put it down? Or so engrossed in a movie that you forgot you were hungry and needed to go to the bathroom?

That is what good roleplaying is like. It's inspiring, creative, fantastic story-telling that YOU create and control. THAT is why people enjoy pretending to be someone else so much.

This thread is shameful. I can't even contribute to this conversation for fear of having some weird vaguely homophobic opinion slapping me.

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Yes, it is extremely ridiculous.
I seriously think that since the PL'ing exploits became available there was a massive influx from a certain other MMORPG where the players don't behave as politely and are nowhere near as friendly as the average CoX player of old.
I have a feeling that this new crowd came because they don't think you can "really" play an MMORPG until you hit level 50.

Those of us that have been here for a while know that is not the case with CoX.
If you rush to level 50 in CoX, you missed the "playing" of the game.
CoX is about exploring the game environment as you progress.

Once you are level 50, pretty much everywhere except for the MA and the highest level zones aren't a challenge or worth taking the time to explore.

I can only hope that once they get to level 50 they take the time to make a new character and really play the game.
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For any of you new players reading this. Here are somethings that I really think that you should do ::
<ul type="square">[*]Run the training/tutorial mission - read everything in it. This will help you out a whole lot. (Sure you might know a lot about another MMORPG, but you don't know the basics of CoX)[*]I strongly suggest running some missions with your contacts before you do anything else.[*] If you team up early on, do it with a team that is your level.[*]Around the time you hit level 10 and before level 17, go to the university in Steel Canyon and run the University arc to learn about IO's.[*]Before you start selling stuff on the market, talk to the Market Rep and read the info about the Market.[*]If you have questions, use the [Help] channel by typing /hc [message]. There are still those of us who will help you. - but if you don't know basics, you might want to start at the top of my list before asking. I know that's the first place I will send you if you are asking about information that is in the tutorial/training area.[/list]
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I'd like to add on there, "Avoid the Sewers until you've done missions from your contacts."

The sewers are the gateway drug to MA PLing hehe.

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Okay first allow me to disagree on the sewers. While I DO agree a brand new player should run some missions in AP or Galaxy to get a feel for the game .. running the sewers in no way automatically leads to constant PLing. It's another methood of teaming and a fast way to find yourself at level 5, 6 or even higher. Then off to KR to run radios and get your Raptor Pack. I frequently use the sewers to get a few powers and levels under my belt and have NO desire to sit in the AE building, or PI before it existed, and run the same mission over and over and over again.



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You are obviously not a new player and thus my statement doesn't apply. It's to the brand new people who wind up on a sewer team, blow through 10 levels and expect to keep that pace, then complain when they don't know how to do anything, go anywhere, and are bored because they got to level 50 in 2 days.

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If you fixed his quote.. then quote him. I was staring at it trying to figure out what i said wrong... especially since I edited in some extra information. lol

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I'm a her