StratoNexus
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Quote:Indeed. If it is not league wide/zone wide, I feel bad for not catching that in beta. If they are zone wide/league wide, they are eminently noticeable, there is monitor in the window showing how many lights are out.Originally Posted by Snow Globe
I don't think you'd disagree that the level shifts should be zone/league wide and that the shifts should be noticeable, am I right?
I was on a small, impromptu league after the regen resistance was added. (on 4/27/12 and it is in the patch notes) but before the Quills became insta-gank. The regen resists were on beta for over a month before it went live. Care to histrionic more?Quote:Originally Posted by Snow Globe
And none of this excuses pushing the -regen resist change live without testing (I just checked all the beta patch notes and it wasn't in any of them) to see if changing the -regen resist with the other changes was actually good for the trial.
We won with modest difficulty (we actually tried for about 4 minutes to do it without killing the lights with predictably poor results). The league had a few that had never done it and we were running with only 14 people. It was done in the early AM EDT.
Once we started keeping the lights out and avoiding the lightning, it was hard, but manageable. On a PuG league, not optimized, with new people to the trial. -
Quote:This is correct.Originally Posted by UberGuy
We're using the Quills on the Wells, so I think we are supposed to be stealing the power for use against Tyrant.
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If you are correct that not everyone in the league gets a level shift when a light out, this is an issue. If the level shift applies to the whole league when the lights are out, you can see how many level shifts you have by seeing how many lights are out.
I think the intent is the whole league gets the level shift when a light is out, but I will monitor this to see if it is indeed not functioning that way. -
Quote:This may annoy some, but I am going to guess that there will be changes to some of the Hybrids down the line. There was really not going to be enough testing in beta in order to truly find everything (much like Interface had some issues that had to be adjusted later). The changes will just be in details as they all seem to work in a decent way, but after being live for awhile there will finally be enough data to assess their impact and see how close to whatever targets the devs have each tree hits.Originally Posted by Yogi_Bare
What about
There may also be corner case issues that were missed (or were caught and just not able to be fixed before release). Hybrid is very complex and varied, while many issues were found and fixed pre-release, I expect we will find some on live. -
Quote:IIRC, 15 seconds.Originally Posted by Kractis_Sky
At some point there is going to be a break even point just like Reactive Interface where the animation length may interfere with application duration - how long is the stacking window? Do we know?
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Quote:Check it out. I didn't even know you could kill the lights with damage. The quills one shot the lights, yes.Originally Posted by gameboy1234
Are the Quills no longer an insta-kill on the lights? They were early beta, but I haven't been on since the first round of changes. Yes, you can beat down the lights, but you're supposed to use the Quills. Damage takes too long to defeat the lights.
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Quote:To make us go.Originally Posted by Gemini_2099
City, and they are not being fought over by the criminal elements? Hmm?
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Quote:Indeed, the strict meaning of the words is as you say. It connotes a less firm stance as I said. You can have the semantic trophy and I agree it is likely fine for a game message board rule set.Originally Posted by Texas Justice
Seems to be the correct wording to me.
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Quote:But even at 100% proc rate for doublehit, Core should be better on high damage mod ATs. If it is not, it needs to be addressed. My tests do show that while I can almost constantly keep 5 stacks (at tier 4, of course) I do occasionally drop to 3 stacks for brief times. It is possible that those occasions are long enough to catapult Radial higher, which is why I am interested in Reppu's specific testing. Most of my testing was with Fire Blast and Katana, so I had pretty quick animations, which might make a difference in maintaining +damage stacks.Originally Posted by Diellan_
I haven't delved into it much yet, but I'd guess that part of the difference is the fact that Radial uses PPM and Core is a straight percentage, so high end builds with a lot of recharge can milk the PPM imbalance really easy.
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Quote:And that point is why even people who do not have tons of level shifts can do well in the final fight. A 50+2 ends up only being -1 for a fair time if the league just gets those lights.Originally Posted by UberGuy
If you destroy all six pillars of light, you get six level shifts for a duration I'm not clear on, but is good for a few cycles of my characters' attack chains, certainly. So intermittently, you are as high as 50+9. I made a point of saving my big debuffs and things like Judgement for those times.
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Quote:You do not need tier 4s, but I would say tier 3s in Destiny and Lore are pretty important. I think two level shifts is likely necessary with three being preferable (I was on a successful league with someone who just had 1 level shift, but most were +3 and a few were +2).Originally Posted by gec72
One of the selling points of the Incarnate system I thought was that it was lateral. Work on one slot or another, whatever you want for whatever your purposes are. If the Hybrid only unlocks from this trial, and to be able to reasonably participate in the trial you should have at least T3s if not specific T4s, that's not lateral at all. That's progressive. The devs are basically saying that you shouldn't be able to get Hybrid without having extensively developed the five (or at least three, I guess) other slots. It's not working on level 50-F, it's working on level 54.
TPN, MoM, DD, and Magi (and possibly even UG) are progressive relative to BaF, Lam, and Keyes. You don't necessarily need the level shifts, but it is a lot harder without them. -
Quote:Avoid it or is it prohibited? The main line makes it sound like, "well, sometimes we understand you may have to cuss, but try not to do it too often." Then you get a bit more firm. I'd think you could remove theOriginally Posted by Zwillinger
9. Avoid using profanity.
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"Avoid using profanity," line and just make the first sentence the heading.
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Quote:I do not believe this is true. My testing indicates that Core is almost always better for most characters with a damage mod of 1 or higher. I am really baffled how you managed to get more mileage out of Radial on a scrapper. What was the attack chain used?Originally Posted by Reppu
Why would Aim matter? Double Hit is based off base. And even then, considering +DMG also applies to base, there's no logical reason that Double Hit would ever lose to +DMG, seeing as +DMG compared to the scaling of Double Hit evens out roughly considering damage scaling.
Corruptors are lower than mod 1 and could be better off with Radial, BUT, Scourge makes it tricky, IMO. All of the bonus damage you get from Core is doubled with Scourge. None of the bonus damage from double-hit is affected by Scourge. And outside of scourge, Core is not too far below double-hit. Depending on what content you primarily play, it may be worth getting a slightly smaller bonus on regular spawns in order to get that really juicy power against tough opponents.
Quote:Originally Posted by StratoNexus
All of the below ignores the extra DOT portion of Blaze for simplicity and to be more accurate for comparison of non-fire sets.
When I activate Blaze on my blaster, Double Hit does 83.95 damage. The base damage of Blaze is 132.6 on a blaster. Adding the 10% damage buff means Radial adds 97.21 damage when double hit goes off. Core would add 112.7 almost all the time. Core is likely better.
On a corruptor, Double Hit would deal 83.95 damage. The base damage of Blaze is 88.42 on a corruptor. Adding the 10% damage buff means Radial adds 92.79 damage when double hit goes off. Core would add 75.16 damage almost all the time. Radial is better in the case of Blaze and other similar recharge powers and in cases where Scourge is not going to be doing a lot.
On a defender, Double Hit would deal 83.95 damage. The base damage of Blaze is 76.63 on a defender. Adding the 10% damage buff means Radial adds 91.61 damage when double hit goes off. Core would add 65.14 damage almost all the time. Radial is likely better for defenders in many cases.
Radial may need something else, but it is not as bad as some think. Core may need to be lowered, it is still very, very strong.
Testing the proc rate of Double Hit with a tier 4 radial, using Flares. Three runs for the full 2 minutes.
Run 1 - 18 procs out of 47 hits
Run 2 - 14 procs out of 42 hits
Run 3 - 16 procs out of 45 hits
Testing the proc rate of Double Hit with a tier 4 radial, using Blaze. Three runs for the full 2 minutes.
Run 1 - 21 procs out of 21 hits
Run 2 - 21 procs out of 21 hits
Run 3 - 21 procs out of 21 hits (consistent, wasn't I?)
Testing the proc rate of Double Hit with a tier 4 radial, using Fireball. Three runs for the full 2 minutes.
Run 1 - 32 procs out of 58 hits
Run 2 - 29 procs out of 51 hits
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Quote:They did something that made it very slightly better.Originally Posted by InfamousBrad
I thought they fixed this bug, two or three patches ago in beta?
That helps, but each time you use an AoE in the mission, it gets worse and worse. I can't explain it and spreading the AoEs out does not solve the problem, although it can mitigate it some.Quote:Originally Posted by InfamousBrad
If it's the same bug we had when beta started, the work-around is to never use two AoEs in a row. There's something about the AoEs' particle effects that swamps the server or swamps the connection or something.
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Quote:I did the same thing at first, I should have thought to mention going into the powers tab, glad you thought of it on your own.Originally Posted by Nihilii
First thing I tried. The game won't let me do that. A right-click gives me "Info", and no other options.
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If you delete the temp powers in the new tray, it goes away.
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Quote:The first two trials I joined failed, but most everyone was still learning. After that, the leagues I was on were coordinating their Lore use and putting the lights out efficiently.Originally Posted by Shubbie
3/4 of the teams running it are failing it.
Most on channels arent going to run it again.
its a cruddy trial..
Ill cancel and wait the only reason to be subscribed is incarnate since thats out for now, Ill unsubscribe and wait.
I did fail one last one, but that had a new leader who gave slightly less instructions and, IMO, missed the Lore call. Simple mistakes and learning how the trial works. Once leaders know better, it will be smooth sailing. -
Quote:Heck no. This is one of the easiest and most straightforward trials. This will be part of the daily rotations. It is fast, simple, and high reward. I expect the reward may get lowered in the future.Originally Posted by Shubbie
I suspect this trial will go into the unrunnables once most people hybrid up, then no one will be able to earn ixp..
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Hybrid has no end cost.
All of the Hybrids have an always on passive bonus just for slotting it.
All of the Hyrbids have an end free toggle that can be active for up to 2 minutes and once shut off takes two minutes to recharge. -
Quote:You could have it grant +taunt enhancement, much like a few powers grant +end reduction. I think that could work and it would certainly improve a tank's hate levels.Originally Posted by Vitality
Some people brought up the fact that +threat might not work...and now I think it would work better as a +aggro cap increase as well as a +gauntlet duration increase.
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Quote:Hmmm. Possibly. I see some potential issues with shrinking and adjusting option 1. Oh well. I just thought it was funny. It always stinks when the best laid plans get mangled and I feel for the team. No one wants this kind of accident to happen.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I think that it would have been harder to cut off the legs of them when they were in their non-action poses and still make it look good - only showing the top half of them in their action poses keeps the same look as the previous banner.
I always liked both anyway and didn't vote because either was fine with me.
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Quote:Gloom, Fire Blast, and Ice Blast all had legacy animations that were faster than the decided on standard blaster tier 2 time of 1.67s. When they were normalized for blasters, the other ATs that had those powers were left with the faster cast times. Check out Gloom on a brute and think about it with Fury, then compare it to the blaster version.Originally Posted by Late2Party
Why does Dominator Gloom have a DPA of 70.4 while blaster gloom has a DPA of 59.58?
For a long time I had a note in my sig referencing the Fire Blast change (something like ".47 seconds, the difference between life and death"). I almost always take Flares now anyway and when I get on one of my characters with the better Fire Blast, I sigh wistfully a little.
But these little things really are not the problem, they just sometimes irk. -
Quote:They never said they were going to use what the community voted for, just that the community would have a say!Originally Posted by Vitality
Apparently Option 1 won this contest...yet look at the forum reskin...
What happened?
That way they could pick the opposite of what was voted for...
Shouldn't they have tweaked option 1 instead of option 2?Quote:Originally Posted by Golden Girl
They made some tweaks to the layout so that it'd be easier to fit onto narrower monitors - it seems that anything that was going to be down the side of the forums had to be redone. -
Quote:I would argue the reward is in the need to think. The thought itself is the reward. There is also reward in working with others and seeing various team skills used to make up for the inherent weaknesses of blasters (and I would argue that reward exists for the non-blasters as well, keeping a crazy blaster alive is fun for me).Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
But there is no reward for that thought because you do not do more damage than scrappers or brutes a lot of the time, and they don't need to think.
Also it is bad design if the AT most new players are drawn too requires the most difficult playstyle unless there are great rewards from doing so. The only reward to being a well played blaster is that you can match the average scrappers and brutes (THB - don't mention Drain Psyche). -
Quote:While I agree with much of your post, I am having trouble remembering many melee attacks that have better DPA than Blaze. Maybe some widow attacks?Originally Posted by Late2Party
Also why are the tier 3 ST blasts so bad DPA? Even blaze is worse than a lot of melee attacks.