Stalk_obot_EU

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the only thing about slotting is to slot kuji-in Rin with 3 recharge ,some ppl say 2 is perm but thats aload of cack as 3 gives an 8 second overlap without hasten.

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if kuji-in rin is the same times as PB then 2 even level SOs give a downtime of .4 seconds, anything above even level is perma with 2

/ninjitsu doesnt have knock back/up/down protection which means any broadsword scrapper will juggle you to death. Acrobatics can counter this but means SJ as travel power

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And always remember, you are not a tank - at least not until you get elude and even then only for 3 minutes.

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2 minutes

I dont have one life, as I made clear before I have withdrawn from the contest in it entirity and do not want my name associated with it. It is not fair to the people you "team" me with as I WILL NOT BE FIGHTING

some psi attacks are seemingly untyped (dominate for one) and ranged or melee def does nothing to protect you from it. This is on the US boards atm

http://boards.cityofvillains.com/sho...o=&fpart=1

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I'm planning an alt based on a Werewolf character I played years ago. But was wondering, how gimped are Claws these days?

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Claws is great, the attacks chain fantastically, with regen you can just keep attacking for ever. Just make sure you take follow up.

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yeah follow up can be chained to make a perma build up if you get it right, ignore the naysayers as there are very few truely gimped powers out there, some people just suit some more than others

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Thx guys

Yea I was thinking ninja blade / ninjitsu for powersets. I have played a katana / regen scrapper on US servers for a while and i seemed to have a steady flow in my attack chain on that guy without hasten - that's why I asked.

I'll take your advice under consideration - thx again

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hasten rotates things like placate and build up much better than without, also as I said SS is really great for stalkers in mission and to get that you need either hasten or flurry and flurry is a waste of a power.....

hasten and superspeed are a godsend for stalkers, things start to go wrong in a mission and whooosh..... of you go to hide, lose agro and then go back and Assassinate them. Ninja blade/Ninjitsu seems like a fun set, lots of tricks and a self heal which is always a good thing.

PVP stalker builds do just fine in PVE thb, its all about how you play them.

Stamina I would say is a must.

The rest just comes from experience, you are quite squishy untill the later levels so just pretend you are playing a SR scrapper untill SO territory

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Criticals are included in the calculations, and the reason DM is so far infront is because it assumes there are 7 mobs available for a Soul Drain (something which I and others in that thread, don't think should be counted).

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I concur, SD with mobs shouldnt be counted really as its rebalancing, its like using Invincibility in hoards of mobs (pre-nerf) to gauge defence calculations. However it does clearly illustrate a point, the sets are all different, some have +acc bonus in them and what is an optimal slotting for one isnt for another so the outcome is not even remotely useful in real terms. As far as I see you cannot group all things together on a level playing field in a game of this variation, Im sure that by changing the slotting adding a bit of this, a bit of that and someone can come out with a whole slew of different numbers.

What is it they say? 88% of all statistics are made up on the spot

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Against high-hp mobs such as AVs, Claws has a higher DPS than BS.

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again this will be dependant upon various conditions such as claws BU (forget the name of it) hitting for the cascade effect and doesnt take into account specific builds or slotting. As I stated I have a huge damage output on my BS with 0 downtime, I find it hard to beleive that claws with out DPS my Broadsword on a single target, thats not a definative answer as I clearly cant know this for sure.

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The following is assuming a slotting of 3xDamage and 1xRecharge in all attacks, assumes all attacks hit and Hasten is running.

Broadsword has a DPS of 5.25 BI/sec and Claws has a DPS of 5.69 BI/sec.

See this thread for more details.

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Interesting and thanks for the link makes DM seem interesting, however the benchmark doesnt mean a great deal as assumptions made are somewhat...limited, I dont rate the slotting as clearly the different powers need a different approach. My BS/SR carries quickness so can pull off an attack chain of just Head Splitter+Hack+Disembowel in a permanent attack chain. Also doesnt seem to carry any information on criticals (admittedly I only glanced the thread) and wouldnt the huge damage criticals of BS (with relvant slotting) stretch it out in front.

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Against high-hp mobs such as AVs, Claws has a higher DPS than BS.

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again this will be dependant upon various conditions such as claws BU (forget the name of it) hitting for the cascade effect and doesnt take into account specific builds or slotting. As I stated I have a huge damage output on my BS with 0 downtime, I find it hard to beleive that claws with out DPS my Broadsword on a single target, thats not a definative answer as I clearly cant know this for sure.

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Claws are excellent, they've now got the highest damage per second over an extended period of time. See the excellent guide in my sig for details!

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depending on build and other conditions of course Im not sure claws could out single target DPS my BS/SR (0 downtime with the build btw)

I would say gratz but this probably means that the SF will get a huge buff now.......

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Cripes! Nice "Known Issue" to have not told the community about!

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Oh theres lots and lots of these "known issues" and they are not as rare as they like to make out, more that they hope people dont notice.

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That sucks sooooo much. What on earth have they done!

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isnt that what they are asking us? Heres a ton of code, we dont know what it does and cant be arsed to test it (like the AV buff) so they throw it on live and wait for answerd.

Gratz, Im sure my constant guidance telling Maxhow you should be doing it was instrumental in your victory

hide aoe def is good enough to get through auras, after all regens manage it.

the lack of KB protection could be an issue should anyone with a broadsword come in and play juggle the stalker, you will be bounced around and dead before you can blink.

There are no gimped builds, its all down to how you use them and if this works for you then good luck with it

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Grats man! So, who is the next project?

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bah.. dunno yet

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gratz man and you seem to be missing a blaster

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About Aid Self i havent had it on a char but from what ive heard u should go 3 Heal 2 intredu and 1 rechrgeredux
the interrupt reduction should help heal in a battle and one rechrge is enuf if ur defense is gd enough or ur not got like 50 ppl attacking u. I've seen /Sr in pvp in sirens and lots of defense slots my stalker has 2 acc in AS and couldnt get him and not the best chance of hitting him in BU

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I have 2 heal 2 recharge 2 interupt reduction in my aid self, means it rotates nice and fast and can use it even with dot damage ticking away with the interupt reductions

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All those character would be better if they also had a few secondary or primary powers. They might be good now, but when you get some more powers from the other set they're even better

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nope, its the mix of playstyle and powerpools that create awesome specialised characters, taking more powers for primary/secondary would only compromise the specific build. Its far better to excel at one thing than be mediore a several and those who know my alts can verify they are pretty much optimised.

My ice/ice dom is taking large chunks of both primary and secondary but thats becasue the powers compliment what I want this character to acheive.

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Why is it that if you have a damage secondary, you're not supposed to use it much?

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Not true, my pure empath is awesome, my defenceless EA stalkers are more than effective, my AR/Dark and my Rad/Kin corrupters with only 2 attacks from their primaries are also huge boons to teams. As always its what you do with them which counts

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2 Acc's, FA and tactics is probably a bit too much overkill. If you plan on running FA and Tactics you could probably drop one of the Acc's in your attacks and go for either an end redux or another recharge.

Slice sucks, no bones about it. Take Build up alot earlier instead of Slice, and pick something else instead of Slice.

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Not sure what i could pick up instead of slice I have a question tho : 2 acc is bit much indeed with Tac and FA, but do you think i can drop one as soon as i get Tactics or better to wait also for FA to drop the second acc ?

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2 acc, tactics and FA isnt overkill in PVP, tactics and FA will allow you to see stalkers in RV, I wouldnt drop any ACC from attacks. You will ahve end issues though as tactics is quite heavy and FA is even worse.

You dont need stealth and invisibility.

Lose 2 slots from resiliance, 1 SO gives 6.7, 3 SOs gives 8.8, very expensive way to get 2.1% resistance. Resiliance is needed for the auto mez protect and thats about it.

Slice is in the alkward spot of the lvl 4 powers, he cant sacrifice it for a pool, he HAS to take a choice of slice or hack, so its either higher damage and multiple foes with higher cost and longer animation or fast cheap slash which is single target. I took hack to fill out attack chain better personally.

sure AoW would be up for it the minute the damned world cup ends......

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tried, on stalker.. doesnt perma. 3 slot recharge = perma, with about 5-8 second overlap.

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2 even level SOs on a lvl 50 scrapper is perma and has a 5-10 second overlap without hasten

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then you're taking into account "quickness" as well.. I wasn't.. I was looking at the ability when you "dont" have it, as he might wanna exemp or PVP zone a few times, from what ive seen it aint perma, tho I'll double check in zones on test server 2 sloted to make sure.

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2xeven lvl SOs = recharge of 120.05 seconds so ahve a downtime of nothing basically, +3s give a recharge of 113 so is 7 seconds of double PB. This is without quickness, with quickness its 102 for the +3s and 107 with the evens. a third slot in pb is a bit of a waste imo, especially as quickness should be got as soon as he hits 20 and should remain if exempted in any of the pvp zones.

as stated there are loads of ways to build a good one, plight is awesome as elec/elec, Freon rocks on Ice/EM and yet I personally wasnt able to "blapp" as well as either (no where close) on the RV event. That said my fire/dev annilates stalkers. Guess its down to what you want from it.