Sprite Fire

Originally Posted by TriAngel_EU

• There's the duos that just play common game content - designed to be playable with just about anything - together. This can possibly be done at any level and is just for the sake of playing with each other, a friend or whatever, for the fun of it - nothing more in terms of ambitions.
• Then there's the duos that aim to play through content designed only for teams, which is also what the OP mentioned he was inquiring about.

• Both toons put out good damage.
• At least one of them has a powerset capable of sufficiently effective debuffing such as - amongst others - the before-mentioned rad, cold or sonic, for instance.
• The duo is able to cope with large spawns and ambushes of regular mobs either by one of them being able to sustain it all and having some form of taunting / crowd control or both toons being def softcapped either by themselves or with the buffs of their partner.

Originally Posted by Arbegla

But how many kinetic combat sets did you use? I didn't want to toss a few billion into my 9th or 10th level 50 alt... figured the resistance/regen route would work, and it has so far, plus its much cheaper then going lethal/smash def on a willpower tanker. (especially when you have to get combat jumping, and weave to do it, some like you said, even take maneuvers, in addition to slotted kinetic combats, and other +lethal/smash def sets)

Originally Posted by Arbegla

See,i went a different route on my willpower/fire tanker. I have very low lethal/smash def (i like like 20% or lower, mainly from set bonuses and such) but i have very high lethal/smash resistance. (67%, 90% with SoW up) and with the spiritual alpha boost i have upwards to 600% regen (over 1000% with full RttC up) and i last just fine on romans.

Before i jump into a group i usually pop SoW, but when it crashes, i either hit orange inspirations, or just keep on dealing damage /fire melee on a tanker has 2 PBAoEs, and BU helps thin the herd out a lot when facing loads of romans. If i can survive the alpha, i can last forever, and I've tanked rommy with 0 issues on my part, even without SoW up and active. High lethal/smash resistance seems to work pretty well (stacked with high +regen, especially from the spirtual alpha boost)

Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades

Electric/Cold Controller and an Electric/Spines Scrapper.

Endless endurance and the Ice shields along with the debuffs make this an amazing pair.

Originally Posted by Brakkus

Greetings all!!

I have a question, I have been playing this game for several years now and have never killed an AV or GM solo...

I have a Stone/WP brute, a Fire/Dark corr, a Dark/Fire scrap, a Stone/Ice troll, and a Ice/Fire tank all at 50, can any of these defeat one if built properly? If not, what AT can do it with the least amount of money spent and/or the greatest ease? Money isn't too much of an issue I guess, I just don't want to invest in a character to have him/her not do it. I have read in the individual forums and seen that this corr can or that troll can, but which is the best overall (if there is such a one).

I would like my next build to be an AV/GM slayer.

ANY and ALL advice will be greatly appreciated!!!!

Brakkus

Originally Posted by roborg

ok i was wondering what would be the best at, primary, secondary, and build for an iron man type toon? i am having truble with this as iron man type guys have melee, ranged, and armor. i was thinking about a rad/em blaster with io sets geared for res. what do you think about this?

Originally Posted by dave_p

You completely miss the point, and you may want to at least skim over the rest of the thread. It's not that 1 AoE shot for 450 (or, you know, 710 w/Musculature) replaces a blaster. It's 8 of them on a team (more on a league). And it's by ppl who can better debuff crowds, or just ignore any return fire, than blasters. So tell me again why a team of 7 nuking defenders/controllers/scrappers/tanks will want a blaster.

Originally Posted by Angelxman81

Im curious because, I dont see people playing this combo and I dont see any build either.
Im having a lot of fun with my new MA/FA scrapper. Lvl 37 after a week.
I plant to use blaze mastery and Pyronic judgment when I20 is released.
Thematic reasons.
Anyone got a build for this combo? Is so fun, I think she could be my new main!

Originally Posted by Ribic

I'm fairly certain that's no longer an issue. They turned of the bane summoning and changed him so he now uses that ranged channel gun power. Which also drains end.

Softcap would work once the blue tower is down (it's where the 25% to hit buff comes from) as long as you have a heal of some sort. Would need soft capped def to S/L and E/N - My Energy res capped Lect/Elec tank needed external heals when LR started using that channel gun on me. 400 dmg every 8 seconds or so hurts. a lot. Side Note: Grounded sucks. I have a -KB IO in grounded for those time I'm using T-Strink or Lightning Rod, and even with that and grounded Running LR still managed to knock me back with his channel gun.

Softcapped WP would be good, but if one was to actually try and go toe to toe with LR you would need 70% S/L/E/N def and a decent heal (aid self would work). Getting an Icer that high wouldn't be too hard, but would you want to play the resulting toon? I'll have to play with mids and see. Also note, you'll be susceptible to RNG hate. 2 shots in succession while the red tower is up will flatten you. One shot should be doable as you'll have Aid Self, hoarfrost and hibernate, but 2 in a row and you're most likely done.

Originally Posted by dave_p

If you haven't read up yet, check out this long, but excellent description of the first 5 Incarnate slots by dispari. Then look at Judgement. As an example, we have:

Pyronic:

Base stats:
428.36 damage
80 foot range
Targeted AoE
25 foot radius
16 targets max
AoE, fire
1.00 activation time
20.00 endurance

That's base damage. T4 w/T4 Musculature will do over 700 pts of damage. W/no crash. From range. W/a 24 target cap.

It's also not scaled for ATs. Which means if defenders do the same damage, but can debuff the crap out of their foes first, they win. Scrappers & tanks w/far superior defenses doing the same AoE damage: win. Controllers are already win machines, and they just get more win (at least no containment, but does that mean no defiance for blasters?).

Granted, it has an unenhanceable 90s recharge. On a team of 8, all w/Judgement, who notices? For long term AoE DPS, will blasters still be king? I *think* so, but the gap will be shrinking, mightily.

Similar arguments may be made for other ATs as we get massive buffs, debuffs, pets, and likely crowd control in the future as well. I still think the AoE damage gap is closed the most w/the addition of the Judgement slot.

And yes, this is 45+ content only, so 1-44, blasters will still rule the damage game, but as we have more and more end-game focused content, I can see less need (insofar as any AT is "needed") for a blaster going forward.

Thoughts? Cries of Dooooooom? Or are we just happy to get more fireballs?

Originally Posted by Kelenar

Nothing annoys me more than a hesitant tank. Pretty much, if I'm on a character that has a 50% or so chance of taking the alpha and living, and the one who's supposed to be taking the alphas is being a slowpoke, I'm jumping in. Debt barely slows down levelling these days. It's just a little bar that measures how much awesome you've generated recently. (If you're not getting debt, you're just not trying to generate awesome hard enough.)

Originally Posted by FlyingCodeMonkey

Having seen it happen plenty of times, I'm basically sick of the scenario where some small number of persons with a lot of resources and a lust for lulz decides to buy up all of (whatever) and relist them at higher prices. This especially applies to common salvage bits like Ruby or Nevermelting Ice. I'm sure it's fun for them, but I don't know why it's more tolerated than any other form of griefing.

What I'd love to see: some kind of account-wide market throttle on purchases. Basically, do some data-mining. Figure out what is the maximum possible number of X salvage that a person might need to fully equip a level 50 character, all at once, no matter how strange the combination of inventions and sets. Then set the throttle: your account may buy no more than 2x or 3x of that thing in a 24-hour period. Maybe that means a maximum of 50 or 100 Fortunes per day. As an IO manufacturer, I could live with that.

Yes, craft badging would take a little longer. Been there, would be fine with that, too. So maybe it takes a full week to get all the craft badges. You can spend that same time getting the Day Job for Went's, so it works out.

If that's too big a technical challenge, then administratively punish accounts that engage in market griefing with temporary bans. It should be pretty easy to identify the accounts and even distinguish them from badging, since they involve a huge number of Buy transactions and I'd suspect little or no corresponding crafting, along with the commensurate resell transactions and drastically-diminished supply.

But, no. Instead, we have a transaction throttle. So if I sell a full selection of 22 items, and I click the "Get All Inf" button, I'm automatically locked out of the UI for ten or twenty seconds because the "Get All" collection exceeds the transaction threshold. Cool.

Originally Posted by StrykerX

That's generally true of AoE-heavy Blasters, though not all Blasters. An Ice/Energy Blaster isn't going to wipe out a +1/x8 mob with Frost Breath and Ice Storm no matter how much recharge he has, but on the other hand he might well take down a +4/x1 mob pretty well. But I've never seen any Blaster that can even come close to soloing the same spawns a Scrapper or Brute with the same amount of inf invested in them can handle... by the time you get your Fire/Energy to the point he can obliterate +1/x8 mobs a SS/Shield Brute or Electric/Shield Scrapper is taking on +3/x8 with bosses. That's what I meant by saying Blasters were more team focused... for a given investment they tend to be able to solo weaker enemies than several other ATs. On the other hand, while an extreme damage Fire Blaster probably can't solo on +4/x8 he can cetainly speed up clearing a +4 spawn on a team more than the guys who can solo +4s will... he has more damage than they do, he just needs a little help staying alive long enough to use it.