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Nobody's saying it should be, but I also don't think the set should be so near the bottom (or right at the bottom).

DP can boost its damage potential in some scenarios using Swap Ammo, while other sets can boost their damage in ALL scenarios using Aim. Swap Ammo can raise damage potential up to 30%, while Aim has an uptime of about 30% on a modest recharge build, so it kinda evens out.

The set is inferior to Radiation Blast and Archery (just to name a couple examples) in both ST AND AoE damage, while offering no other significant advantage to make up for it (and no, Swap Ammo's gimmick really does not make up for the lack of Aim)

Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?

This thread is about QQ'ing about DP's crappy performance though, and you don't counter an arguement about underperforming with "but the set is fun and popular!".

Now I understand that you were replying to a specific point some other poster made about DP bringing in new costumers and bringing back old ones. Regarding this point you are indeed right that AP and Mercy are all full of pistoleros running around, which proves the set has indeed sparked interest in the customers. But while the set may've been succesful in bringing in some dough, it won't be able to *keep* the spark unless the performance issues are adressed.

The "new and shiny" thing doesn't last forever...

Those two are the makeovers of Crimson and Indigo.

You heard it here first.

Yeah, and we all know that lowbie teams are the end all be all of measuring performance, and joining a team that makes it through the hollows is one of the biggest ingame accomplishments

Awesome! just because it's not the worst I guess it means it's alright! yeehaw!

Yeah, and I guess 5 players picked at random in AP will get you the top of the creme in CoH/V performance's finest.

The set is currently popular because it's new and shiny, and it may even be somewhat effective in some cases (my DP/TA/Mace Corruptor on test can clear out +2/x8 spawns of S/L mobs by himself, relatively quick) but it's still underperforming compared to the other sets.

It's a similar case with MA for Scrappers. The set is alright, you can pair MA with /SR or /SD and make a decent AV soloer or farmer, it's just that every other set will do it better.

Then we can agree to disagree, I guess.

To me (and many others), if defense is the only means of mitigation you have, if you're not at the softcap you're worthless. And even if you're at the softcap, you're not worth your weight in gold either.

That's how it is with defense at least, sadly

Even at the defense softcap, you're still squishy if you don't have other means of damage mitigation/recovery (such as additional resistances, control or healing)

True

How exactly are you going to take hibernate AND the elec mastery godmode?

Aww, you are so mad that you apparently forgot to make sense too? hehehe

"[Forum Scrappers]You were kicked from channel 'Forum Scrappers' by @Umbral Fist"

Hahaha, have fun running your dead, inactive, failure of a channel

(And I suggest we both stop polluting this thread, as I don't think it's fair to keep humilliating you in public, nor it's anyone else's business. If you got beef with me, do it through PMs or ingame)

Hmm, I thought both powers were identical

I don't know what you're talking about, rep is just meaningless green squares on a message board for me, I just farmed it up for teh luls. I'm sorry it's such a serious business for you.

Funny I'm outright wrong so often, as we most of the times agree on many things (examples being that DP underperforms on IO'd builds and that FSC > S-Charge)

Are you still mad that I'm a much better player than you? aww don't be, it's just a game!

Clearing a x8 mission IS a situation where you chain and chain your AoE attacks (unless you can clear the map with a single application of a single power, which I doubt) until the map is cleared = DPS. You will do more total damage in the mission with FSC than with S-Charge (assuming you use both everytime they're recharged)

It does if you're gonna fight more than a single mob

Since when does DPS mean burst? aren't the two like, opposites?

Except they are, barring a few 'minor' texture differences here and there. (for example, the Cemetary maps are indeed in DA's landscape, the absence of fog being a 'minor' texture difference)

And there's also a few zones that the city map doesn't cover

And for completeness sake, the 2nd mission of the RSF is an instance of Warburg

Hmm good point, always wondered about those