Solo'd GM


Iggy_Kamakaze

 

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My DM/SD scrapper solo'd the Kronos GM that ambushes you in Founders Falls during the "World Wide Red" arc. I did use temps and summoned a HVAS, but I'm pretty proud of myself :P I assume it's a typical gm. And no I'm talking about the one in FF and not the EB level one at the end of that arc.


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Now this is impressive. Congrats.

That said, I'm pretty sure it's because HVAS plasma blasts have chance for -Regen in them. I don't think any scrapper could solo a base level 50 GM with raw damage alone.


 

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pretty sure PowerForge and Werner had done this and probably a few others. Could be wrong though...


 

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I've heard of quite a few GM solo scrappers, all I've heard have been DM/SD xD


 

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I know Powerforge did it with his Bots/Dark MM. It may be possible to solo a lower-level GM (which has less regeneration, I believe) without debuffs. However, I'm not aware of any scrappers who've managed to solo a base level 50 GM without temp powers. That would imply over 350 raw DPS, which is a staggeringly huge figure. I'd be really impressed if someone actually managed to do it.


 

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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze View Post
We are talking about Kronos here right?

Here's Werner's DM/SR
http://www.youtube.com/WernerCoH#p/u/11/fwho6tTFhAM



Was trying to look for PF's Claws/SR video doing it but couldn't find it...

No that krono is just a normal monster not a GM says so right under the video.

OP any pics? this is kinda hard to believe.


 

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Ahhh ok got you


on a side note...
Nihili did take some GM's down on his DB/Inv using some temps, if I remember correctly


 

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Originally Posted by Laevateinn View Post
It may be possible to solo a lower-level GM (which has less regeneration, I believe) without debuffs.
Nope, GMs have the same regeneration regardless of level. The 'lower' level ones however, have less hitpoints. Still doesn't matter though, since the damage done to the GM scales down according to its level, so in the end you'd still need around 360 raw DPS to take down even Kraken.

And even, it would still take you about 30 minutes


 

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I can't remember who, but yeah, at least one other scrapper has done a giant monster with temps and inspirations, probably more than one. Nuke them from orbit.

And yeah, my Kronos was a monster, not a giant monster. Just a glorified AV. I haven't taken down any giant monsters. My main characters put out an average of maybe 175 DPS. I doubt even nuking them from orbit would be enough. I'd probably need a lot of other temp powers too. Surviving isn't a problem, but putting out damage sure is.


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If only they'd replace melt armor with heat exhaustion


 

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Originally Posted by Silverado View Post
Nope, GMs have the same regeneration regardless of level. The 'lower' level ones however, have less hitpoints. Still doesn't matter though, since the damage done to the GM scales down according to its level, so in the end you'd still need around 360 raw DPS to take down even Kraken.

And even, it would still take you about 30 minutes
One difference between GM's of various levels of resistance. Kronos wouldn't have been the easiest one to solo for a DM. Kracken, for example, actually has negative resistance to dark damage (meaning it takes more damage then normal)... and each of the DE monsters has weaknesses and strengths to different damage types. Adamaster is weakest to lethal... if some of you claws/db/katana types want to take a shot at him. You definatly need to use a Vandguard Pet (forget what they're called) with you for the -regen.

One reason higher level GM's are good Candidtates for DM/ however is the soul drain fodder survives longer.


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Originally Posted by Shred_Monkey View Post
One difference between GM's of various levels of resistance. Kronos wouldn't have been the easiest one to solo for a DM. Kracken, for example, actually has negative resistance to dark damage (meaning it takes more damage then normal)... and each of the DE monsters has weaknesses and strengths to different damage types. Adamaster is weakest to lethal... if some of you claws/db/katana types want to take a shot at him. You definatly need to use a Vandguard Pet (forget what they're called) with you for the -regen.

One reason higher level GM's are good Candidtates for DM/ however is the soul drain fodder survives longer.
Their damage resistance is not dependant on level though, it's more dependant on mob type and thematic.

Kronos is a robot, so he has high S/L/C/P resistance (and some E/N/F/T resistance)

Kraken is a big toxic hydra guy, so he has high toxic resistance

Adamastor is a zombie god of darkness, so he has negative resistance

Etc.


 

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I would reeeally like to solo a GM would be an amazing achievement. My best bet would probably be on my unfortunately only at lvl 15 Fire/SR brute. dunno if a Fire/WP scrapper would be any good at surviving a GM becasue of the lower than softcap defenses.

Which GM's have the least fire res???


 

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What I meant was. Is the kronos in founders falls a "Giant Monster" and not an arch villain with a different name, like the one at the end of that arc?


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What I meant was. Is the kronos in founders falls a "Giant Monster" and not an arch villain with a different name, like the one at the end of that arc?
yes the one in founders IS a GM.


 

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There's several GMs I can solo with my ill/rad/psi controller, but not sure about any of my scrappers.
My controller did a pylon in 4:50
My best with my fire/shield with AAO maxed was 5:40 so far.
Fastest I've ever seen posted for a scrapper was a DM/shield with AAO and Soul Drain maxed the whole time in 4:32, and thats far from 360 DPS. But he got a mob of 11 lvl 51s around a GM and had a tray full of Big Reds.... never know.


 

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Originally Posted by DR_EVIL_NA View Post
There's several GMs I can solo with my ill/rad/psi controller, but not sure about any of my scrappers.
My controller did a pylon in 4:50
My best with my fire/shield with AAO maxed was 5:40 so far.
Fastest I've ever seen posted for a scrapper was a DM/shield with AAO and Soul Drain maxed the whole time in 4:32, and thats far from 360 DPS. But he got a mob of 11 lvl 51s around a GM and had a tray full of Big Reds.... never know.
Nah... i've done the math 1000 different ways... scrappers can't sustain the required DPS long enough... yet. There's a few blasters that are close.... thing is 360 is the breakpoint, even at 400 DPS you're only ticking away 40 damage a second against something that has (effectivelly) 72,000 hp... that's 30 minutes of theoretical fighting. From experience I can say that 30 minutes of theoretical fighting can easily take over an hour if not forever.

Nice job OP.


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Small nitpick Shred, the actual break point is 353 DPS. People just say 360 because that number is easier to remember