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Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion

An interesting opinion. Do you have any idea how often Dull pain will be up with 125% global recharge and hasten on a build?

Would it make any difference to you if I told you I already tanked BAB in the LRSF with this build?

Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion

It serves 2 functions. It heals, and it raises my hit point max. It is stackable, (only to like +30%, but still) And you get this huge influx of green every minute and a half by your calculations. Now, I also chose Dark when I set about creating this monster. One of the reasons was Siphon Life. Siphon Life, when spammed, will try to keep me at my new Health Max. When i rebuild in 2 weeks, adding another 7.5% recharge and Hasten, Dull Pain might be closer to 1 minute to back up again (we can dream).

Did you have a better heal in mind amongst the Brute secondaries, cause I looked real hard for something to tank BAB with, and this was the best i came up with.

Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion

One application of Dull Pain will not bring a brute to the Hit Point Cap. And having a 50% heal available quite often is never a bad thing. Or, at least I cannot think how it hurts.

Originally Posted by Mad_Cow_Milk

F.U. Jerk. If I went on to make another thread just like this one people would be screaming at me for not just posting in an old thread. Go troll else were.

Originally Posted by Wytchven

I just hit 50, paid attention to most of the Story Arcs, but sadly this was prior to the implementation of Reward Merits so missed out on a bunch. I am trying to work on getting all my powers IO setted out and want to know what is the best way to farm for these. Should I be running task forces? Architect Missions? Story Arcs? Tip Missions? Running random crap and just using the influence in the AH? Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated as I can only play a few hours a week and want to make the most of my time. Thanks!

Originally Posted by STORM1980

Actually, I'm not certain that everyone would agree with that statement. At this point, most vets are looking for variety, in addition to further character development. What I'm suggesting is that players be allowed to choose whether they want a "standard" mastery as their Ancillary/Patron Pool choice or, be able to select from a general pool of powers for the same number as permitted by level.

Yes, COH/COV is better by far than CO in a lot of ways, so it's only the selection of powers that I'm particularly concerned about.

Originally Posted by plainguy

I am not saying that it would bring people to the game and if I said that I either didn't get my point across correctly, I misspoke or you misunderstood.

What I am saying is that this will NOT do away with the market. People will still go to the market. It will just open up other avenues of transactions that would not normally be done at the market.. For example buying up some odd Yellow IOs from a particular type to create another IO from that type. Now the way the market is set up, your only getting movement in big name items EG Guassain, LOTG, Kinetic Combat.

The low end useless IOs are exactly that. Useless. Example damage IOs, Far Strike, Salvo, Volley to name a few.

I don't hate the market persay. But it is truly a place where the rich get richer and a few players could control one key corner of it. Which has been done. I don't feel I am crying the sky is falling here. When going Rogue came out Endurance IO sets sky rocketed in price and in some sets 1 IO out of the whole set would go for 100s of millions. Again that is the scam, you can't control the whole set. But I can have a hold over one IO in the set. And your going to pay me my money or not get that set. What do you think people did ? They begrudgingly forked over the money.

Further farming is against some sort of game policy or they would not be removing AE missions and people would not be asking players NOT to rate there AE missions. I have done a few farms, personally I didn't see any glitch or exploit. But you can see where the Devs felt it was not in the spirit of what the AE system was about. Example ones where you could trigger several ambushes. So basically your walking into the door fighting mobs and then activating an ambush. Nutshell your just standing there fighting tons of mobs and walking out the door that is right behind you. Again just yesterday on freedom with my hero toon I asked in broadcast on freedom what are the big farms are and not a single person would respond to give out a mission. They pretty much Echoed what I stated above. So if my thoughts on this are wrong, then so are tons of other players in the game.

But regardless of all this, nothing I have requested to introduce would stop any of this and my intent was not to. I can only suggest how to improve one part of the game. People will still run farms, Players will still run Portal missions and TV missions and players will still run hero /villain moral missions on -1/1 to finish them up as fast as possible and with as many toons possible.

My idea was just to give players another option. The reality is you can never do enough AE ticket farms, TV farms, Portal Farms to obtain particular IOs you need for a build without the assistance of the market. Since everything is random you could be waiting months hoping to get a full set of IOs. Let alone a series of particular IOs for a level 50 build

This is where I think your comment really does not hold up. Your asking players to conform to your play style to obtain items in a game.

What I am saying is play the game and have fun your way and along the way the stuff you don't need, you don't need to sell on the market or as vendor trash. Instead you can change that up into something you might need. Granted it might not be as fast as selling an buying items on a market. But it is a choice available to you. YOU have the choice.

Your thoughts are AE Tickets are the answer to everything and it really isn't. It is just another way to obtain random items and hopefully get something good to sell on the market and then buy what you want with your profit. So your saying is that players MUST participate in the AE Ticket system to conform and achieve what they want. Your whole answer is do AE farms get your tickets, convert those tickets into salvage. Sell the salvage and buy what you want.

Again my idea is not stopping players from using the market, it is an alternative or a supplement depending on your play style. My suggestion has no effect on your play style, unless your indicating that having players being able to convert items would hurt your pocket financially. Since players would not be buying the salvage your placing on the market in the first place. Honestly that is the impression your putting across to me. That your seeing how this would hurt your market sales and don't like it. Again if I am wrong then I am wrong.

To me I consider any suggestion that is not game altering a great idea. So players might come across with 100 great ideas. I am not considering well the Devs have only so much time so I need to only back ideas that I think the Devs can implement. I will back all 100 ideas. I leave it up to the Devs to determine what order those 100 ideas should be in. They know their engine better then any of us do. So I don't know if that is the angle your coming from as well.

Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion

Okay, lets pretend you were not trying to be insulting. You are truly astonished. Okay. So, from what yo wrote, ow was I supposed to know fully I/O'd meantpurples and PvP I/Os. Fully I/O'd could mean a ton of 200,000 enhancers slammed onto the build. (Which is actually a cheap and effective way to be stronger than SO. I said it first) I read your post, I just did not understand that your friends fully I/O'd stone tanker was fully I/O'd with the best. In less than 6 months, very very nice.

Would our current group of marketeers consider this a possibility? Call it 5 purple sets (only 5 per, for efficiency), so 25 purples, and lets say 15 PvP I/Os, a couple procs, a global or 3, and never forget the 5 LOTG 7.5%, this stoner will need them. Do that in 6 months on the market and have 2 billion change left over. Is this possible?

Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion

You absolutely ignored what I was responding to, which was someones suggestion not to use the market at all. This forum is not a good place for this discussion I am finding. Someone will say if you dont like it, never use the market. I will explain I have to use the market. Ridicule ensues. There are alternate ways to get the stuff. I post the math on the alternate ways. I am told that is stupid, use the market. I tell people the market is rigged to favor farmers and marketeers. I am told you do not ned to use the market. I will explain I have to use the market. Ridicule ensues. There are alternate ways to get the stuff. I post the math on the alternate ways. I am told that is stupid, use the market. I tell people the market is rigged to favor farmers and marketeers. I am told you do not ned to use the market. I will explain I have to use the market. Ridicule ensues. There are alternate ways to get the stuff. I post the math on the alternate ways. I am told that is stupid, use the market. I tell people the market is rigged to favor farmers and marketeers. I am told you do not ned to use the market.

Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion

So, you ares aying that by never getting this makes people play more? Or, get them once in a great while? Which brings me to that question everyone that disagrees with me seems unwilling to answer. How long? How long do you think it is appropriate to take to completely purple/PvP I/O one character, at the expense of all others? If you were in a marketing strategy sesson for the game, what figure would you throw out as to a good time range, and hy do you believe this wold help you get/retain customers?

Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion

I always speedread content before goig back for detail.

Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion

Actually, I have specifically thanked many individuals on the opposite side of this argument from me, and at least once radically altered my position due to the sense they made. I believe that I have slightly altered my position a couple times more based on the logic and common sense that I have heard from some individuals that disagreed with me.

I have taken a few philosophy classes in college, and had some lively debates. I have a couple years college level mathematics under my belt. I have debated detailed and hard to understand concepts previous to this post. Most of you do not care about this, and I am sure this will be fodder for at least one more line of juvenile insults. Am i blanket insulting again? Hmmm. Probably according to the above referenced post.

Here is a suggestion. Try to stay on topic. (Topic equals Market is broken cause I/Os cost too much) So either add some reasonable postulates explaining why the market needs to be changed, and how it can be changed, and why the Devs should do this.... OR..... Explain why the market is perfect just the way it is, AND why the Devs would harm the game by making things a little easier for new players wanting a great toon.

Side note: Insulting me, my reading skills, my heritage, my brainpower, or any other creative reference to anything not in the above Pro or Anti Market change is really not helpful, and does a disservice to everyone on the board. The disservice? It makes this post really long and boring. Please keep the posts centered on the argument. Kiddy time is over.