Rylas

Well, resist bonuses from IO's are laughable. Not to mention, difficult to work in. But. . .

. . . maxing out HP can have the same effect as increasing resists. I'm running an ELA tank who currently has 500+ Bonus HP, and that's only at level 40 so far (and only the Phalanx Accolade). He's become extremely durable and using the heal is something I don't have to rely on.

Basically, if you increase your HP by 20%, you've effectively increased your resist by the same amount. And you're regen goes up by HP/Sec. Those two together with a fast recharging heal will make you feel pretty godly.

As for resisting mez. . . why? You already get protection. Resist won't be noticeable for you. The only thing you need help with would be KB, which you can get from a few IOs. Get three of them, and you're covered.

Now you've got me thinking about a build for my Fire/Fire who's been on the shelf for a while. Can't wait to get home and try it out!

Well, if you want more helpful advice, you'll have to help us out first. What is it you're going for? More HP? More recharge? More defense? Throw us a bone. No one's going to take the time to make a build when there's a chance you'll come back and say "Oh no, but I wanted this bonus". I don't mind messing around in mid's for other people's benefit, I just don't want it to be a wasted effort.

Also, why Purples? Just for the sake of having them? Because you can do quite a lot, if not sometimes more, with non-purple sets.

BTW, you're power selection I can work with, but the slotting and ignoring the rule of five? You get one hand-slap, sir!

IO sets only offer resistance when it comes to immobilize. Nothing really offers protection.

Your options are:

1. Combat Jumping - Offers a little defense as well, and if you want go with Tough/Weave, this can do a decent amount of mitigation when stacked with your resists.

2. Burn - Does damage and makes foes run away. Depending on your secondary, you can always use knockdown to keep them in the fire.

Not bad. Now... what about SM instead of SS?

Sorry, Coldmed, you misunderstood. When I said some of us have more to do with ourselves, I meant in real life. I can see where this wouldn't have occured to you.

Agreed. Some people prefer resist, some prefer defense. In my experience, defense is superior. It's just an opinion, but it's the one I go for. If there's anything better, it would be layered mitigation. This build isn't for soloing AVs, so with a decent team, there should be enough support to survive anything that makes it through the defense and resist. And of course, there's always Unstoppable.

CMA, the input is appreciated, but I think you're getting a little ahead of yourself. Yes, I am aware I have Invinc set to 10. Thats why I stated the numbers with no one in range as well. To be honest, if all I'm tanking is one person (even an AV), then 37% def with a min 30% resist towards damage is going to be a fair amount of mitigation. Especially with Dull Pain. Only Psi damage will be a threat.

Also, I'm aware of the S/L, E/N and F/C rankings most people go by. IMO, it's somewhat skewed, because NE damage isn't that common. I feel like I run into Fire damage fairly often, to justify the defense.

CJ, while not a huge amount, is still quite helpful. If people are willing to spend millions on +Def IOs, then a couple of slots for enven more defense seems more than reasonable. The slotting for Unstoppable is the way it is for bonuses. But, I did catch a Rule of 5 error, so three slots came out of Unstoppable and one each went to Freezing Touch, GIS and Forst(for enhancement values). So thanks for helping bring that to my attention, even if unintentionally.

The Serendipities are for the F/C bonus. Let's just agree to disagree on that one.

Here's the latest tweak.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
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Arctic Defender: Level 50 Mutation Tanker
Primary Power Set: Invulnerability
Secondary Power Set: Ice Melee
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam(21), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(45)
Level 1: Frozen Fists -- S'ngH'mkr-Acc/Dmg(A), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx(43), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/Rchg(43), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), F'dSmite-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 2: Dull Pain -- H'zdH-Heal/EndRdx(A), H'zdH-EndRdx/Rchg(7), H'zdH-Heal/Rchg(13), H'zdH-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(15), H'zdH-Heal(15), Dct'dW-Rchg(42)
Level 4: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(5), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5), RctvArm-ResDam(7), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(9), DefBuff-I(9), DefBuff-I(19)
Level 10: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(11), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), RctvArm-ResDam(13)
Level 12: Frost -- Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rng(A), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(37), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(48), CtlSpd-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(48)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(17)
Level 16: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 18: Invincibility -- HO:Cyto(A), HO:Cyto(19), HO:Cyto(40)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(21)
Level 22: Resist Elements -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(46), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(50), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 24: Ice Patch -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 26: Tough Hide -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), S'dpty-Def/Rchg(27), S'dpty-EndRdx/Rchg(27), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), S'dpty-Def(48)
Level 28: Freezing Touch -- S'ngH'mkr-Acc/Dmg(A), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx(29), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/Rchg(29), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), F'dSmite-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(34), F'dSmite-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 30: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(31), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(31), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(31), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(33)
Level 32: Unstoppable -- Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(33), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 35: Greater Ice Sword -- S'ngH'mkr-Acc/Dmg(A), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx(36), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/Rchg(36), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), F'dSmite-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37), F'dSmite-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Frozen Aura -- C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(A), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Erad-Dmg(39), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(40), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 41: Resist Energies -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(42), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42), RctvArm-ResDam(46), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 44: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Build Up -- RechRdx(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
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Set Bonus Totals:

• 16.1% Defense(Smashing)
• 16.1% Defense(Lethal)
• 16.1% Defense(Fire)
• 16.1% Defense(Cold)
• 15.5% Defense(Energy)
• 15.5% Defense(Negative)
• 3% Defense(Psionic)
• 9.56% Defense(Melee)
• 13.9% Defense(Ranged)
• 15.2% Defense(AoE)
• 3.6% Max End
• 3% Enhancement(Heal)
• 3% Enhancement(Accuracy)
• 119.5 HP (6.38%) HitPoints
• MezResist(Confused) 1.65%
• MezResist(Held) 2.75%
• MezResist(Immobilize) 15.4%
• MezResist(Sleep) 1.65%
• 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
• 4% (0.31 HP/sec) Regeneration
• 1.88% Resistance(Energy)
• 10% RunSpeed
• 1% XPDebtProtection

Dude, sensitive much? First, you need to point out where Kruunch said he HAD a fire/kin. He only stated that one could farm faster. And he only claimed to have the Scrapper. He hasn't gone back on anything.

Second, saying your mission is Min and Lts only still doesn't say much. With customized critters, they could still be uber deadly. You're fire tank could be rendered impotent by minion critters maxed out on Rad debuffs and packing full Sonic Blast. If your map has toons with high mez protection, then yes, you'd be able to outdo a fire/kin. It's easy to brag if you've stacked the deck. Also, its pretty suspicious to list all 3 challenges out, without offering your opponent to choose a setting for you to bring your tank.

Now, you could be called out for "laming up" yourself. Because only now have you mentioned that this is farming for PL. Which means needing a different farm tactic entirely from doing it for drops/money. Most people refer to PLing as "PLing" not "farming." But that's rhetoric, so I won't hold you to it so much. Would you be able to say you can farm for drops faster? Which is probably what most people in the thread have been concerned with.

On a side note, thanks for buying things at whatever price. I'm sure you've helped pay for builds of mine without me having to do much work myself. Though, I hope you're not the reason in-game emails are so littered. After all, if all you've been doing is PL and done little for inf itself, one has to wonder. . .

Hey now, he also said his Spines/Fire would run circles round you. Don't back down from that.

And depending on the build of your AE farm, they might as well be EBs.

And why are we talking about AE farms so much? I mean, tickets are nice, but there's no Purples from tickets.

edit: prolly should have scrolled down to see Kruunch's response.

Well, having played on teams where tanks take turns herding up groups so that the team moves non-stop to continuous fishes in barrels, I can assure you, tank stacking isn't an issue. The amount of XP flow in a situation like that is a beautiful thing. And on the plus side, no one complains about the "wait here while I herd" syndrome.

If teams find a second tank to be superfluous, it's because we're not doing enough to show them its not. Instead of trying to come up with overly complicated answers to fix a problem that isn't there, we should instead be actively forming teams with 2-3 tanks and showing them how it works.

Oh, I see. So they need to know the "secrets" of how to PL for it to be legit. Gotcha.

Oooor, there's absolutely no difference.