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It would be pretty weird for converters to not be in I22, just from a software dev perspective. You generally want to test code as close as possible to whatever you are going to roll live. The Market and its cart/inventory is clearly separate from the game and so if converters were in the Market, I'd fully believe anything in Beta market might not roll live with an issue.
That's not the case for converters; they're on NPCs, etc. That means they'd be testing a different build than was rolling live. Anyone who's done professional software knows that even small things can cause big regressions, so you always test your real, live build, or as close to it as possible.
Anyhow, this is going to be a total sea change on the Market. In the long run, though, it's going to be good for players and good for the game, and I'm pretty excited about it. -
Quote:I'm still skeptical that this will continue. There is every reason to believe the vast majority of the supply will have been purchased up front. They are very pricy from a merit perspective. If super packs are a bonafide "hit", then maybe not. I know that I bought a LOT of superpacks, and even quantitatively, I didn't get enough ATOs to satisfy my altitis, and I want a set of ATOs on every character I roll usually, starting at L5.It seems that they are dropping steadily. My first speculative buys has all been at a loss
Now, if the devs put these same ATOs in future packs, then my theory goes out the window. If not, I expect them to land in the realm of ~100m+.
I think you can't underestimate how long it will take for demand to rise as awareness of their benefits arises, and people learn tricks like doing 3+3 (3 catalyzed/3 not) for double-set bonuses (7.5% S/Ldefense from 6 slots? ok.)
I'm not a universal optimist about rising prices, since I've said the PvP IO and Purple markets are about to take a dump that will shock most people. (at least, based on prices things are selling at now) -
Quote:They will probably cost quite a bit more, even. (Because the rich will get richer.)I hope TopDoc is right about nothing costing more than a billion, but I have a feeling that 51/52/53 HOs still will.
It would be more accurate to say "everything that can still be produced will be considerably less than 1B". -
Quote:Providers using automated systems are likely blocking your emails because your emails have several "mistakes" that make them look like spam.
- The e-mail provider has blacklisted the COH newsletters. This can be for a variety of reasons such as the rate the newsletters are sent out, or issues with the header information.
- The customer never opted in. (It's surprisingly more difficult than it seems to sign up for these newsletters.)
We're working on addressing the former through a variety of methods, including an upgrade to the e-mail system, as well as contacting the appropriate providers.
We're working on the latter by setting up methods to more easily subscribe/unsubscribe to e-mail newsletters.
Neither resolution, unfortunately, is coming "soon."
I get my CoH email on a system that I actually run, and so I can see the full internals of why it gets flagged spam. I still get it because I completely whitelisted you but it gets MARKED as spam:
Quote:X-Spam-Report:
* 3.2 FH_DATE_PAST_20XX The date is grossly in the future.
* 1.9 DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12 Date: is 6 to 12 hours after Received: date
* 0.4 HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_02 BODY: HTML has a low ratio of text to image area
* 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
* 0.0 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 40 to 60%
* [score: 0.5000]
* 1.5 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
* 1.4 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars
* -0.4 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list
Quote:Received: from listmanager.lyris.ncsoft.com (listmanager.lyris.ncsoft.com [64.25.42.37])
by example.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with SMTP id q1LIGtH2004143
for <plasma@example.com>; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:16:55 -0700
Quote:Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:05:35 -0800
The probable cause is this: the system on which your email software runs set it UTC/GMT, but the email system itself is being TOLD the system is running PST. This results in the time, as "perceived" by the email program, being 8 hours in the future. (The difference between PST and UTC.)
If your email program has a setting for time zone, I'd suggest you try setting it to UTC/GMT for the next mailing.
The second big problem is this:
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I think 4 of those are me dumping some on the market in anticipation of converters. They would never have even been for sale otherwise.
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No. I don't know about PvPers, but in PvE land, I know a fair number of well-heeled people slot Panaceas as a preferred healing set, but outside of that, no.
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Quote:http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=281919
Hamidon, Synthetic Hamidon, Titan and Hydra Enhancements will no longer incorrectly enhance attributes other than those specified by the enhancement. -
Oh! When you said grand scheme I thought you were referring to the already-in-execution scheme rather than his future plans.
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Yeah. I still have a L40 EM/Elec brute, and a L33 EM/Nin stalker I haven't played since ET was nerfed. I'll be the first to admit ET was too good. It's still a really strong attack. It just doesn't carry the set any more like it used to.
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I've only had it bug out once. I've heard that if you dismiss all pets before you leave the final interior room (ie, as you hit 500/500 rep the 2nd time) that you're safe, but that could easily just be hearsay. I've run it successfully at least a dozen times.
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If I wanted to do that, I'd bid 10x stacks of Apoc triples for 100m or such. That should be safe. No one will mass-sell into bids on recipes though - you can only convert an actual crafted enhancement.
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Given what TopDoc described in his other thread, I think he's likely to make over 1 Trillion influence in profits and could have executed the plan in less than 80 total hours of time invested. (Well, cashing out may take more than that, but the value will be there.)
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Quote:I'd simply ask: what premium will you have to pay to get a L10 over a L50? Well, we know that right now, that premium is somewhere on the order of 200-600 million.Not sure that I agree with that assessment. I can see level 50 GA/SW/Pan uniques dropping down in price, perhaps below the 1b mark some time down the road, but that's barring any future changes which we can't account for. I don't see the level 10 versions of the aforementioned uniques going below a billion at any point even in the distantly-near future though.
I'd say that:
1. PvP procs will be selling for less than 200M in the not-too-distant future
2. People will not be willing to pay an 800M premium to get a L10 version
The L50 proc works when exemplared to L7, even if the IO is L50 and you slot it into your L49 power. That means the L10 version only "matters" for leveling. -
Quote:I've done some math on the "cost" of converters. Of course, each has a base cost you pay "in case", but I ran some numbers to ask "how much will converters cost, in lieu of buying something else?". Prices ranged from ~2m per converter (bought via E-Merits) to ~15m per converter (bought in pure merits). This assumes that the average purple will be worth 250m and the average LotG (or some other 2-merit HVAM item) is worth 150m. (and since I say "average purple", it also assumes that purples will be more costly than PvP IOs, which I think is true.)I am not sure of this. I don't know how frequent/cheap/common converters will be, but more importantly, human nature being what it is: There's so much money in this game that I don't think there will ever not be things worth 1b.
So, any item that can't be created via converters will potentially still be super expensive. (L1 Hami, L53 Hami, costume code, etc) But anything you can convert to - any purple and any PvP IO, for example - is going to be substantially less than 1B. I'd guess PvP procs will run ~120-150m, purples (ALL purples) will run 200-300m, etc.
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What I'm wondering is: when you have literally more than you can imagine spending in any way, will you still think about mechanics enough to come up with the next ebil plan?
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Quote:Exactly the point I was going to make. The more consistently you nail any sort of scam to the point where it isn't worth perpetrating it, the less likely anyone will commit one in the future. I just didn't bother posting this because as far as scams like this one go, both the converters in I22 or my idea about a fixed-value item vendor can easily solve this problem. If players are trying to do it, you should support it. (See: a certain other MMO making trading-card-obtained loot tradeable because they realized it was causing a lot of scamming, and they wouldn't be able to prevent it. So they enabled it to happen without risk.)
Every MMO I know of has circumstances where a trade has to happen in phases. And every MMO I know of, except one, will enforce trades -- if you try to scam someone by aborting partway through an agreed set of exchanges, the stuff gets returned and you eat a suspension or ban.
Why? Because the mere fact that everyone knows they do it means they almost never have to, because no one's dumb enough to try it a second time, and very very few people are dumb enough to try it the first time. -
Sorry to hear about the trade.
As TopDoc observed, in I22 there will be nothing worth 1B any more, so this is a non-issue, however, it's not hard to solve:
Put in a vendor that will buy or sell some token item for 1B influence. Bars of thrice-enchanted impervamantium or whatever. Bingo, you can now trade any amount of influence safely. -
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Quote:If you want happy customers, you should be asking the bigger question: why isn't your customer service empowered to make customers happy?I'm sorry to hear about the situation you're experiencing. I'll be sure to pass this feedback and suggestion along to Clockwork O1.
The CS rep should have said, "Hey, this is working as intended, we'll pass the suggestion on... but I've put 3 catalysts in your email box you can claim. Thanks for being a customer."
I had my own CS nightmare recently with CoH support. Back when freedom went live I bought several $.99 accounts, since I figured having a bunch of extra premium accounts would be worthwhile. I recently decided to use them to PL some alts and xfer them to other servers, and when I logged into them for the first time (after buying them back in.. November?) I didn't have a transfer token. I put in a ticket (actually, 3 tickets, one for each account), and felt like I was getting autoresponses from a script. It took like 4 posts and a screenshot to even make my point. Eventually, they did get me the missing transfer tokens (which apparently rely on you logging onto your account each month, which is a disclaimer stated...nowhere. And sure enough, I have a friend who has been subbing as a VIP since freedom launch who hasn't logged in the whole time. Got him to log in, he had 1 token instead of 6).
The teeth-grinding experience of having someone tell you "working as intended" over something like that really makes you want to think twice about feeding the beast more money. It doesn't really matter what's "right" or intended, or whatever. What matters is that when someone is hovering over the "buy points" button, if they hesitate because they had a bad CS experience, you already failed. And we're ultimately talking about customer satisfaction which costs you nothing, because you're giving bits away.
I'll point out also, because I've done some management work in this area, that the cost of having a CS person answer 2-3 more customer replies in a thread rather than satisfying the request on the first contact with the customer not only costs you customer goodwill, it costs money. The only part of this which isn't free is the time of your CS reps. So if they spend 4 replies with a customer, there's a good chance you already wasted on payroll what you were saving by not just immediately giving the customer what they wanted. (Especially when that's something as minor as some catalysts.) -
Quote:It's an "exploit" that has been well known since ~Issue 1. If you let the status quo sit for over 7 years without any comment (other than saying it wasn't intended but the game engine can't support fixing it), it's no unreasonable for players to adapt.I thought Nucleolus Exposures, as clearly stated in their description, only enhanced Accuracy and Damage? If they somehow enhanced Resistance as well, then it should have been obvious to you that this was an exploit. As such, the title of your thread is misleading, as it's not a "HamiO nerf", it's an exploit fix.
Why you would expect anything special from the Devs in return for the loss of your favorite exploit is beyond me.
That said, Eclipse is hardly broken without Nucs. -
I'd still really love to see this. I have 20+ alts, guys, and that's your fault
Help me out here.
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Quote:I like other gamesUnfortunately the game is in no way optimized for SLI at all.
So I'm not surprised at what you saw.
If you're building a machine primarily for CoH, just get the single fastest card you can. SLI is a waste of money.
If you're building SLI with other games in mind, just resign yourself to the fact that CoH is only going to use one card.That said, I'm perfectly happy with the 1x 580 performance... but the default setting by nvidia for coh now sets SLI, so you have to know to actively go force it to do single card renders, or get half the performance. (Until I found that, I was a very unhappy camper.)
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Quote:No, I acquired them myself by 2-boxing hami raids. There was a bug present for quite some time where if you sidekicked a L45-46 toon to a L50, you would get a 52 or 53. They were really no big deal at the time - more valued than a 50 but only marginally so. There were people who got irritated with 45-46s even being in the zone during a raid, which means enough people were doing it that other people got irritated by it.Bah, well how long have they been on your build, and did they ever circulate? It's really impossible to tell if you count people who just got them, kept them, and slotted them.
I expect that at least hundreds were created, really. But of course, with churn, plenty of ex-players will take their 53 HOs to the grave, as it were. I flirted with selling them a while back (I even posted here), but at only 2-3 billion per, and no real urgent need for those funds, it wasn't worth it to me to part with them. (It was right as I came back to the game after a long absence where I subscribed but almost never played; and I only had a couple billion in seed cash outside of my slotted sets. When I left, that made me ludicrously rich, but by the time I got back, it was peanuts.)