Party_Kake

It's more of an accessory pack.

It seems (clear to me, at least) that this pack was a very quick accessory pack to tide over the predominantly female playergroup that was offended by the gunslinger pack. None of the pieces seem to be blatantly pandering to the male playerbase, the masks, head details, sash, and boots are all AWESOME.

the maces are a nifty touch.

It's not really a costume pack, it's even labeled as "Carnival of Light costume pieces (FEMALE ONLY)".

Granted, some mouth breather is going to say "it's costume pieces, it's a pack" but it's really just 4 parts:
detail
mask
sash
boot
with options. A heck of a lot less than other packs. And that's if you accept the argument that "weapons aren't costume pieces and don't count."

When this hits live, you can expect a lot of complaints from the same people that said it wasn't a big deal when the gunslinger pack came out.

Which is really weird because when they were asking us about the upcoming sci-fi retro pack, the biggest suggestion I made was to go ahead and release smaller packs of costume parts and to make them gender exclusive rather than attempting to appease both groups at the same time with rehashed stuff. I know that people will get upset with perceived "missing" costume content, but it allows the art team the opportunity to experiment more, and I'm confident it will actually lead to better new stuff.

I seriously didn't expect something to already be in the pipeline.

That was just me being funny. I don't seriously believe that the Celestial set is going to go away forever, even if that were the plan, there'd be enough whining between now and the heat-death of the universe to bring it back.

(Because this game will probably last that long)

That is a very valid point. one humongous gigantic ambush would be pretty crazy. maybe if it had a cooldown comparable to the auto-completion cooldown? if you could only benefit from it once a day (call the debuff "temporary gong deafness" or something lol) then it would be a little more balanced. It would still be an absolute blast to pull out every once in a while, and it would be loads of fun to challenge your team by asking, "are we within gong range now, or are there too many enemies left on the map?"

everything is possible.
It's a matter of whether it's feasible or not.

Okay seriously after seeing that, that's what I want. Yeah, I'd make one, maybe two masterminds like that.

I think it turns one enhancement into a different type of enhancement. like it changes a +damage enhancement into a +accuracy one.

That's ridiculous. Saying "If you do this some customers will be angry enough to not be customers, but it doesn't matter how many of them there are" is just so blatantly oblivious to the point that I don't know if you're thinking straight.

Now you're just confused.

Let me paint a picture for you:

If I said "If you disagree with me, you will die." You would imply a direct causation between the two events, even if what I meant was "If you disagree with me, you will die someday, and I have no idea how."

It's also far more likely that you will die someday regardless of whether you disagree with me or not.

So let's put this into context:

You claim some people will stop being customers if super packs happens.
They know super packs will happen.

Thus they are stating they will not be customers for long.
Will refraining from releasing super packs retain these customers? NO.
There is insufficient evidence to even suggest that preventing super packs will "save" these customers. They have stated they'll cancel their subs, this does NOT mean that the cancellation isn't forced anyways. They may decide to cancel their subs because they are bankrupt and can't afford it in the first place. They may decide to cancel their subs regardless of whether the super packs are released, because the company decided to even entertain the idea.

I, for one, quit World of Warcraft for an entire year because of the Real ID debacle, and told them to delete my posts from all their forums and ban my account permanently as I didn't want to be associated with them. I did this DESPITE them retracting their position because I wanted them to feel it. It was not enough that they "changed their mind" about declaring war against my privacy. Did they feel it? I don't know, but I do know their subscriber numbers have been downward sloping since, despite my coming back to the game.

The number of people who will actually quit being customers over this is a HUGE part of your argument even if you dismiss it. And denying that does not help you.

That's a compelling argument.

But how could it be tested?

Have two different kinds of super packs? each has a different set of costume pieces that can be unlocked, but only one of them gives the option of obtaining the costume parts in a different way? then Paragon would be able to determine which set of packs earned more money. But how could that even be a fair comparison if the costume parts had differing levels of desirability?

I suspect that whichever costume part was rarer, even if it were identical to another, would be more desirable. Rarity creates and enhances demand.

You still don't even acknowledge that those groups could be tiny.

And I suspect that they are.

At the risk of sounding like a complete ***** I have to mention...

Nobody knows how big any of those 4 groups are, if you really want to divide all the people who play this game into those 4 groups.

Furthermore, any kind of segregation like that is just patently offensive, if not to anyone else, at least to me.

I do not play this game for costume parts that aren't in the game, haven't been seen yet, might be exclusive to randomized packs, might not, might be completely hideous, might be ******* amazing, might be exclusive to the huge body type, might be completely bizarre like tuna maces or male only fishnets or indian chief headdresses, or for other stuff in those packs.

I play the game because it's fun and these super packs do not infringe on that in any way.

If they add to the game, however little, and give me yet another thing to work on while I might be working towards some very lofty goal that requires a lot of hard work, maybe I could use something like a shot at an exclusive costume piece to tide me over while I try and motivate myself to unlock the destiny slot or the magnificent slot or the lacy underwear slot or whatever.

It's not mandatory!

well...

I did. *whistles innocently*
I actually spent way more than that