PC_guy

I really do long for a time when the simpsons was funny.

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I sent castle a PM about this a week ago (to no response, guess I shouldn't have mentioned pvp in the PM) but my scrapper picked up levi master and those attacks are, atleast in the detailed info, only suppose to crit out of hide/placate and never random crit. i'd assume this is the same way for all other PPPs on scraps but i've only tested sharks.

because it really isn't fair that a well IO'd toon can kill a mediocre slotted/SO slotted toon.

yes

because it merits so much dev time now?



Its the lesser of two evils really. pre-13 pvp wasn't perfect but it was better than this crap. Yea, in a perfect world, another complete revamp that is put in with player feedback with PvPers in mind (not trying to attract pver's into it) would be the best situation for pvp. However, at this point, I'm not sure any dev that would want to either follow up i13 or implement a new system could get any support from other devs to do it atleast for a long time when everything else that was ahead of it on the priority list is in. the thing about a reversion is, while not being the best case senario for pvp, is the best "quick fix band aid" that the devs could give the green light to and would make the pvp community most happy, atleast until the devs can get to a place where another, better advised, revamp is the best option.

8 seconds is about how long a hold is that is slotted for hold duration and is backed up by domination. its pretty lame to be immobile for that long which in RV and high end arena, is asking to get AS'd/spiked. also it isn't just about caring break free's, this also made mez protection, completely uselss. the old system might not have been perfect, but this is more broken then that was. at the very least, breakfree's should still work.


Travel supression was meant to slow down the entire pvp experience for newbies coming into zone so that they weren't overwhelmed by the pace. some travel suppression, I can understand, travel suppression when i use an insp or get attacked is just plain stupid.

The only thing that was different about the pve and pvp game pre changes, was that pvp was much harder in that your target was actively trying to *not* die and actively trying to kill you in the best/fastest way possible. the CoH pve AI is abnormally dumb. really dumb. really really stupid. that is the only difference between the two. There is no reason for it in pvp, and the only thing it would serve in pve, as well as all the other i13 changes, is piss people because it makes no sense and completely slows down the game, which i know is hard to imagine in pve but it would.

well to be honest that is the big discussion about pvp in the future because alot of pver's dont' think it should be fixed.

and to be honest, the OP was one in a series of troll posts by O_I, there are already 3 threads in the pvp forums (which the devs don't pay attention to after being up for years) to accomplish what you want here.

so you should be able to get mezzed for 4-8 seconds and be able to do nothing about it? your heals should be doing less and less each time you use it (note: not just self heals) and you (and be extension, the entire game of pvp) should get slowed down evertime your character does anything from using a power to getting hit by a power or popping an insp?


I respectfully, disagree with you.

what context? that entire paragraph was about how the time spent on pvp (which quite frankly was 2-3 issues, maybe) would have been better spent on something else. just because he said arena play would still be fine doesn't take away from that (because how often does the joker tell batman to head to the arena before they can duke it out.)



Yes, you're right. the time spent on i13 would have been much better spent on something else than on pvp but this is entirely because the devs went about implementing and chagning it all wrong. They f**** it up, plain and simple, and simply washing their hands of it and, literally, stoping all communitcation, support, and ties to pvp in anyway shape or form isn't the way to go about it. Spending 1 issue on pvp and/or base raids(which also wouldn't be enough to make up an entire issue obviously) could have a very positive impact on the community. bring in old pvpers that left because of pvp changes, bring in new ways for current players to experience pvp, and make your current pvp community much much much happier.

whats the reason to RP? whats the reason behind badging? whats the reason behind pve in general? fun. plain and simple. pvp, generally speaking, was/is very fun for its participants. even in it's current very watered down state, its still more challenging and difficult than any pve content (exception being CoP but you wanna talk about having no reason to play something....)

Also, just to point out, this is why the large majority of the pvp community wants a reversion to pre-13 because you're right, it makes no sense what-so-ever now. A reversion would be an immediate fix, or rather a do-over, make the community much happier, and be the least time consuming/resource consuming anwser.

I agree, a game revolving around super heroes/villains where they don't fight each other. It makes tons of sense.

I'm not so sure about this because I am a pretty good example of this. I couldn't care less about pvp until about i11ish then found it rather exciting but after playing for a while i found that this game (the good pve content you mentioned) got really repetitive, monotonous, and really really easy, and pvp was the only thing that offered a challenge.

im relatively sure it isn't unresisted. when i tested it out i used it on a regen and your standard blaster with ice shield and it did about 100 more damage to the regen.(slotted with 5 heca's and a mako proc) I also didn't factor in any PS's since its realistically hard to get more than one or two, especially since repulsing torrent doesn't count towards it.

which still doesn't make any sense because detailed info has the power doing 850ish (without procs) and is doing much less than that. i mean if detailed info has it doing 850 then, unresisted and unbuffed, it should do that amirite?

interesting, because for the 700 number i was factoring in both procs hitting (mako and heca)

wonder what im doing differently D:

ya know, my buddy rolled a km/FA and is only getting it to hit about 500-600 on average resisted damage and about 700 with FE. I really don't see how people are getting it to hit for 1k damage, unless thats counting stuff like pain/emp buffs, fully saturated PS, ect.

here's the thing about the end game though. posi has said it would be doled out over multiple issues. and alot of speculation makes it sound like i19 will have *just* alpha (maybe the second level as well) and 1 tf (so in my mind, i15 2.0) which really makes me wonder, what else are they going to put out in these issues. certainly it wouldn't be *just* this stuff since that would be way to light (especially if they're more than 4 months apart).

Personally I've been wanting endgame and pvp fixes/stuff for a long *long* time. if i19 would have been entirely dedicated to endgame/higher praetoria stuff and i20 would include(since everyone is assuming it'll be very large) some pvp fixes and maybe even, gasp!, base raids then that'd be a fine time table. the fact that it is going to be over multiple issues really makes me think that there is plenty of space/time to put it *some* pvp fixes or, hell, even bug fixes in with recent issues making the pvp community somewhat happier and not taking a large portion of stuff out of the issues for the pve people. of course reversion is the easiest, quickest and least time consuming answer to pvp and would probably go a long way.

perhaps, but this doesn't happen on triumph. mostly because anyone who would do this is more srs bsnz about pvp and went to freedumb.

But QQ happens very *very* little in triumph RV. yea i griefed the badgers, but i didn't rub it in their face and degrade them in BC

not true, after griefing 3 badgers/pillbox farmers, there was active 3v1 in rv.

yes

this game has challenging and tough mishes?

fail troll is fail

DR doesn't hit recharge bad until about 70ish +

not really. there have been several people to ask the devs for a DR chart and we've yet to see one.