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Actually, no. I'm afraid that HEATs and VEATs are unlocked the instant a character trains to level 20. In your characters are already over that limit, you're SOL. I learned that the hard way when they made the change... My one and only villain back then had reached level 22 a couple days before the announcement and I had to start one from scratch to unlock the Arachnos Soldiers.

You may get an admin to unlock them with a petition, though. I'll admit I didn't try that, but then I like it the hard way sometimes. Since I'd also unlocked both sets before buying GR, I'm also unsure if getting to 20 with a Pretorian unlocks both sets of EATs. (It should, since you get the message. Actually you'll get the message EVERY SINGLE TIME ONE OF YOUR CHARACTERS MAKES IT TO 20 FROM NOW ON, which honestly gets old after a bit. But at least that way you KNOW they're unlocked. )

Duh! Can't believe I overlooked that little gem. That'll make it much easier indeed! Thanks for the reminder.

@ Infini - Thanks a bunch for taking the time to put this together - I rather like it ! I think I may be able to squeeze in Fire breath by swapping Tactics and Vengeance for Invisibility. Lets me use a LotG for one less power. I'll try the Decimation angle, although it's much more expensive than EC.

I guess I'll just give up on Perma-Hasten and focus on permadom for a start, I suppose PH just isn't possible short of purpling out.

Thanks to all of you for the feedback, you really helped me refine the concept and probably saved me millions of Inf and lots of headaches ! :-p

You know, part of me wants to congratulate you for getting to level 50 with such a build. It must have been quite a hassle. So first off, congratulations.

Now, I've been running an Elec/elec tank since I joined a year ago, and he's my main. He's 50, capable of soloing +3/x3 missions against Carnies and Malta, and surviving the damage output of a +3 Infernal without using Power Surge. So I think I can give you a couple useful pointers.

First off, as has been said, the developers made it so any enhancement beyond the third SO provides vanishingly small boni. Assuming you're using +3 SO, three of a kind is the most you'll ever need. With IOs, the rules change a bit, and some advocate that 2 level 50 generic IOs are enough, as they give you something around 95% of the boost of 3 +3 SOs.

Based on this, I'd make the following changes to your build :

Charged armor, conductive shield and static shild should get at most 4 slots - three DamRes and one EndRedux, or if you're willing to play with lev50 IOs, two of each.

Likewise, Grounded gets two-three DamRes and that's it. There, you just saved 9 slots to play around with.

Energize is a life saver which you want up as often as possible, so trade three Heal for three Recharge - you'll have it up every minute or so I believe, not counting Hasten.

Lightning field is a great power not only to hold aggro, but also to counteract the regeneration of AVs. As such, I gave it 3 Dam, 2 Acc and one EndRedux, but YMMV.

Lightning reflex is fine with the basic slot, since it only accepts movement speed enhancements.

Power Sink is a set-defining power as far as I'm concerned, the one that lets me both ignore my blue bar and manage mobs by draining them dry of Endurance. I gave it three Recharge and three EndMod, since it's pretty much auto-hit. With that power, I can have a 15-mobs crowd around me staring stupidly at me, unable to attack.

Power surge is pretty situational, I'll admit, but when you need it it's a saver. Considering it's ludicrous recharge, I think three Recharge are mandatory, along with three DamRes. Since it's a click power, I don't bother with EndRedux, since power sink keeps me capped.

That's for Armor. As far as Melee goes :

As far as I'm concerned, the sleep effect of ElecMelee is non-existent, so I never slot for it. I'm also not a big fan of knockback (I prefer knockdown) so I'd replace all those enhancements with damage, which the Tanker in general is sorely lacking. Of course, this is my choice, nothing more. Most of my attacks that aren't slotted with sets have 1-2 Recharge, 1-2 Acc and 2-3 damage.

Build Up should be slotted 3 Recharge and 1 to 3 ToHit Buff, so you have it up as often as feasible.

Taunt is plenty powerful on its own, and since every last one of your attacks carries a taunting effect thanks to Gauntlet, I'd leave it at one slot, which I'd put a Recharge or Range in.

BTW, you should be banned from playing Elec for not taking Chain Induction. It's a set defining power that other Tankers envy us. Shame on you. The strength of Elec Melee is its AoE attack and you passed by one of the most versatile.

Lightning Rod gains very little from Range, but a LOT from Recharge and Damage. I have mine slotted 1 Acc, 2 Dam et 3 Rech and it's up every 45 seconds to decimate entire mobs. I can take off 2/3 of the life of a +3 minion with it. Same with Thunder Strike.

Having Hasten with only one slot is, IMHO, a waste. It's a power that should be up as often as possible, so two to three Recharges are HEAVILY recommended.

Tough and Weave provide very small benefits on their own. I'm not a big fan of them, but were I to use them, I'd slot them much more heavily with what you used on your armors. Three slots each seems a bare minimum, split between Endurance reduction and protection.

Physical perfection is a power you probably took late, but I'd add some slots to it. It's a watered-down version of BOTH Stamina and Health, so it needs both type of enhancements to justify its existence. I'd say two Heal and two EnrMods, easily. you can take one of the ToHit slots of Focused Accuracy and stick it here.

Of course, those are only suggestions. You made it to 50 with your build, so you must have been doing something right. This isn't criticism, just constructive commentaries.

Well, except for the part about Chain Induction. :-p Seriously, what were you thinking? ;-)

True enough as far as it goes, however there IS such a thing as "too much damage buff".

According to Paragonwiki, the damage cap for a Dominator over lever 21 is 400%, which includes the base 100% damage of an attack. Fully slotted with ED, that means that you have a bit over 200% leeway in damage buff.

While I'm certain that most IO builds won't be able to grant that without sacrificing almost as much as a perma-dom build, I'd like to see some hard numbers on whether Incarnate boosts will follow or bypass AT caps. If they follow those limits, then some of the boost to damage might be lost, might it not?