Mesmer

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They should just nerf FS, if you ask me. I'm practically waiting for it. Hell Iddy is a /kin and I would totally welcome the change, because FS actually plain deserves it for being a power that will make everyone in a team cap out on damage in a game where you're supposedly not capping out on anything without a lot of effort.

Or is that just me?

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that would nerf Kin defenders though, not just controllers. That's the problem with talking about powers or AT's in a general sense. You end up nerfing more than intended.

Also, Psionic tornado does get containment damage. Nobody would pick it if it didn't.

Get Force Bolt, the only actual fun power in the FF set(not counting Force Bubble in PVP here). Good for perma knockdown, great for combining with TK blast. You seem to have all the good Psi powers, except maybe Psychic Wail. I had this on my defender before ED and with Power Build up, it was an OK power then, not sure how good it is now, especially now that you end up with no end and -recovery for a short time.

I'd skip Psionic Tornado. It's ok for a controller epic if you can get Fulcrum shift and containment before dropping it. If you don't get that it's a fairly useless drain of endurance.

Detention Field can be handy at times, I suggest you give it a try and then respec it out if you don't like it.

I highly suggest looking a Sonic Resonance as an alternative primary though. While it's a similar set to FF, it has some key differences which makes it much more useful in PVE.

I also find it kind of ironic that you roll this for PVE and comment that you already have all your PVP toons. This is much more effective in PVP than PVE.

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PvP I mean, I didn't take it for PvE. Can show you anytime

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Cool, you gonna be on Freedom Tonight? If this works, i'm gonna be 4 slotting this with acc/recharge, when IO's come out .

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I got detention bubble perma while hasten is on, on my troller, tho

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Yeah, but you're special. All the other trollers in CoH can't get it perma in PVP though.

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The Duration in PVP is much shorter on controllers.

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Wrong.

Defenders have it 1 second short of perma in PVP, with 3 recharge enhancements. Duration is 30 seconds for them. With hasten it's recharged way before the effect wears off.

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Sounds cool. Assuming I'm awake and stuff.

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This part. It's pretty late now, and I've Heroes to watch.

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'xactly. Then How I Met Your Mother, then The Class. And I'll probably read some Green Lantern in between.

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Stop downloading the whole damn internets!! You're clogging the tubes for the rest of us!

I'll be there for both

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EDIT: Herostats says my detention field has recharge of 54,08 seconds (1 recharge DO) and I timed its duration to 30 seconds with a clock, so I'd really like arguments why you cant perma detention field with controllers, Xanthus )

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The Duration in PVP is much shorter on controllers. Not sure if this is a bug or intented. It lasts about 10-15 seconds, while you'll have a 20-30 second recharge(I suck with number, i just know you have downtime). Defenders can happily perma it though which is puzzling indeed as I view this as a control power, meaning that controllers should actually get more from it IMO. Perhaps the Dev somehow see it as a debuff.

As for powers to get in PVP. Just get all the single target stuff from Mind: Mesmerize(slot for damage), Dominate, Levitate(not great damage, but it's handy for knockdown as well), TK and Confuse(can be damn annoying if you're not buffed, make people lose target). For FF, I pick Personal Force Field, Force Bolt(again knockdown, you can easily perma knockdown one target), Dispersion Bubble, Detention Field and Force Bubble. I skip the single target buffs as they mean [censored] all in PVP with the values they have, so everyone and his mom will hit through anyway.

Pool powers I got are, Speed for Hasten and SS, Leaping, for Combat Jumping, SJ and Acrobatics(critical), Medicine for Stimulate and Aid Self(PFF + Aid Self makes me very hard to kill) and Primal Epic for Powerblast, Temp Invul and Powerboost.

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Thats dealing with the consequence, not the problem and counter productive.

Almost tantamount with America's - To avoid being attacked by terrorists we'll go to war with a country where they happen to be based!

(EDIT: In my opinion )

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How is TP foe not the problem? The OP complains about someone constantly using TP foe on them and using it to grief. Simply take their tool away, by buying inspirations. Immediate problem solved. Now you can always petition that player, but that's not gonna solve the problem at that moment. GM's aren't that fast.

I'm sure if George W. had the option of buying inspirations to combat global terrorism, he would do just that, instead of invading another country. Only costs 50 inf per insp. Much cheaper and quicker.

You do realize that you can just buy some Resistance Insps to combat this right? You head out the zone, stack up on some Oranges and you'll have no more problems.

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I'll bring my Kheldian

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You don't have a Kheldian.

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You don't have a Sonic/Sonic Defender... oh shi- *flee*.

Seriously though, I am also bringing Mesmer's Kheldian.

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Alright, i'll bring my troller then.


ps. any Hami noobs send me a tell before or during the raid for a team invite as I'll be running a team for first timers again. Much easier to explain to everyone what's going on when we're all in one big team.

I'll bring my Kheldian

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5. Reduced duration and/or increased recharge on cage powers. Removal of any accuracy bonuses given to cage powers.

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Post like this [censored] me off. This is such a generally sweeping comment that it can only result in a power being nerfed all the way into oblivion. DEFENDER cages can be perma'd. Not controller ones. Please consider that this should only be looked at on the defender AT. On a troller a caging power only last for about 10 seconds and the recharge is about 25-30 seconds. Also, removing the acc bonus will do absolutely nothing, since a lot of Defenders will get aim to compensate for this, if they don't already have it.

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12. Cross-server PvP in the arena, add a collumn with the name of the server the event was started on, players in arena events with the same name would become something like:
Cinder Viper - Triumph

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This would be awesome.

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... the whole thing about making all secondary effects much more viable...

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another great idea.

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19. More input from me...Un-nerf hurricane, I'm not the only person to feel it's an uneeded change (not just because my main is a stormie ) it's far to easy to get past the -to hit debuff for a change that was said to be to prevent the repel from holding people in corners (which btw, I can still do ty)

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yes please. And unnerf Force Bubble while you're at it.

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27. Allow us to choose arena maps.

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I want this now!

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Now I ask you, is this REALLY myself and my team that was in the wrong here

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Yes

read the thread and especially the posts by Bridger for reasons why.

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and as u will also i expect i couldnt give a damn if u wanna pvp or not, just leave ones that arent the feck alone! >.<

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NO!

its a PvP zone so I will kill you coz I roxorz and you shouldn't be here if you dont like it and the next time I see you there, i'll Total Focus you so hard you'll instantly zone back to Atlas Park. LOLOL












I couldn't resist

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andhave you tried to fight a Mastermind with a fast heal, and bodyguard? no matter what you are your toast..MM are the most powerful PVP AT's in my opinion, if used well.

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aim + build up(add boost range and/or Power boost if so preferred), TP Foe, 2 shot MM and Repeat.

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I'd be suprised if Mesmer died. [censored] bubble.

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I'd be surprised too

Focus on Subdue, TK Blast and Will Domination. Those are all short animation, reasonably high damage attacks. Any Psy defender that has some spare slots(which shouldn't be any problem after ED), should look into these attacks(especially TK blast).

Psychic Wail can be fun as well, for people that like nuking. I haven't used it since ED came out, but I used to enjoy clearing huge mobs with it back in I4.

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Concept: a PSI-Blaster

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Could do a Rad/Psy Offender. Very effective indeed. Or you could go Kin/Psy for Fulcrum Shifted Psychic Wail.

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Ugh, more Empathy defenders that think it's cool to hang back all the time "healing". Get stuck in people!

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Maybe an overstatement of what the AT isn't supposed to do.. but hey you know.. just for the hell of it

When I get chance later.. I'm gonna make a toon.. tis an Empath Defender..

here's my 15second-build idea

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Defender
Primary: Empathy
Secondary: Psychic Blast
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01) --> Healing Aura==> Heal Heal Heal Rechg Rechg EndRdx
01) --> Mental Blast==> Acc Acc Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
02) --> Subdue==> Acc Acc Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
04) --> Psionic Lance==> Acc Rechg Range Dmg Dmg Dmg
06) --> Air Superiority==> Acc Acc
08) --> Swift==> Run
10) --> Psychic Scream==> Acc Acc Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg Rechg
14) --> Fly==> Fly
16) --> Telekinetic Blast==> Acc Acc Rechg
18) --> Health==> Heal
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod EndMod EndMod
22) --> Will Domination==> Acc Acc Sleep Sleep
24) --> Assault==> EndRdx EndRdx EndRdx
26) --> Recovery Aura==> Rechg Rechg Rechg
28) --> Psionic Tornado==> Acc Acc Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
30) --> Tactics==> EndRdx EndRdx EndRdx
32) --> Regeneration Aura==> Rechg Rechg Rechg
35) --> Scramble Thoughts==> Acc Acc Rechg DisDur DisDur
38) --> Psychic Wail==> Acc Rechg Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
41) --> Power Build Up==> Rechg Rechg Rechg
44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> DmgRes DmgRes DmgRes EndRdx
47) --> Total Focus==> Acc Acc EndRdx Dmg Dmg Dmg
49) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg Rechg
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01) --> Power Slide==> Empty
01) --> Sprint==> Empty
01) --> Brawl==> Empty
01) --> Vigilance==> Empty
02) --> Rest==> Empty
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LOL, slot all the good attacks wrong, why don't you?

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No, it wouldn't

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Yes, it would.

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You're much better off having those rads all spam AM, so that everyone's holds recharges much faster. It's much more effective.

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Well, I'm quite sure they can spam AM even with a toggle running


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I dunno about that. Didn't look like they knew what they were doing when I was at that raid. Next time remember to tell them to prez teh butenz.

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Melee damage is nearly redundant in higher-end arena matches, since everyone is moving around so fast.

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Urgh I'm not sure I like the sound of this..

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This does not apply to EU PVP though. Xanthus is talking about the 8 v 8 or 16 v 16 matches they have in the US. Melee is still very valid here.

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yep - I had it six slotted with holds on the only successful raid I've ever taken place in on Union (the public ones anyway).

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That does explain the success rate of Union Hami raids

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Not really Mesmer: it's been either lack of controllers or too much lag because of people not following instructions (at least we don't have n00bs pulling GMs into the jelly )

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well, Choking Cloud would defenitely fall under the "too much lag" problem now, wouldn't it?

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TBH I wouldn't mind a few rads running CC if it helps with the holds (as long as people are not spamming useless powers). Worked fine at the last successful (public) raid

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that's the thing really. It hardly helps with the holds and several rads running it, will greatly add to power lag. So the benefit does not outweigh the negative effect it has. You're much better off having those rads all spam AM, so that everyone's holds recharges much faster. It's much more effective.

... that and not have people use things like Earthquake and Steamy Mist

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yep - I had it six slotted with holds on the only successful raid I've ever taken place in on Union (the public ones anyway).

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That does explain the success rate of Union Hami raids

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Not really Mesmer: it's been either lack of controllers or too much lag because of people not following instructions (at least we don't have n00bs pulling GMs into the jelly )

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well, Choking Cloud would defenitely fall under the "too much lag" problem now, wouldn't it?

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yep - I had it six slotted with holds on the only successful raid I've ever taken place in on Union (the public ones anyway).

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That does explain the success rate of Union Hami raids