MarquandDance

Excitement.
You know your having fun when you manage to outsmart and drop a powerful player accompanied by trembling in your hands. Outsmarting and dropping an AI doesnt have the same "rush". Seeing as the OP mentioned psychology, maybe an interesting experiment would be to have some players compete against humans and some against AI's (some knowing they are AI's and some not). Then have everyone rate there experience. Just a thought

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If one side wins enough hotspots to get the bar filled up, it will reset and they will get control of the zone. When that happens you get access to temp powers at the base.

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How many times does it need to be filled to get all the powers available? Two? If so, then what resets the situation, villains gaining control?

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2 times for full benefits, lose it once and you lose it all and the other side gets their 1st tier temp powers


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Yes, and it seems a bit, i dunno, contrived. Anywho, I had the opposite theory from hammer I think heroes win closer to there base and vice versa. Just goes to show how much your own perspective has to do with it.

If one side wins enough hotspots to get the bar filled up, it will reset and they will get control of the zone. When that happens you get access to temp powers at the base.

My theory is half the hotspots will go hero and half villain, some of them certainly seem harder than others, and its easy to loose some hotspots even when there's no opposing players around.

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Hey, when playing pvp even when I'm on hide I can be seen... any ideas on how to get around heros because as a stalker it don't take much for them to kill me.

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Greetings to a fellow scot
You will want both hide AND stealth (from the concealment pool). Some heroes can still see you (ahem..) but this should work out a LOT better than just hide.

I dont have any travel powers on my kin and have no regrets. You might want to take a power though until you get SB and IR, then respec the travel power out.

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I dislike trash talk, it can be funny and add to the experience for those who you know but new pvpers and others can take things the wrong way and sour their experiences.

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Hit the nail on the head there. With my friends, we call each other all sorts of 4 letter words. If a guy we hadnt met walked up and used the same words, he'd get nailed to the ceiling. Same online as offline.

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2. i never shout over broadcast "haha i have just as'd u" or any gloating comments.


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This isnt true. Granted I've only ever seen you do it once out of maybe the 3 times i've played you, so maybe its very rare you would do this.

Edited to sound less argumentative.

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Dont stalkers get quite a lot of mez protection? Not disagreeing with you, just that I hear a few stalkers boasting a lot about how holding them is a waste of time. Plus I dont know of any way a controller can get stacked perception without multiple tactics.

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The only stalker with non problematic mez protection is the ninjitsu set and the SR set in terms of toggle dropping.
Stack a hold on a stalker and use toggledrop and u ll see what insta held means.Furthermore the good old combo fear+hold+toggledrop works wonders to fleeing stalkers.Any stalker boasting about mez protection well they havent played against well organised pvp teams. As far as i am concerned the only set that has some bragging rights to this is the ninjitsu set that resists fear techniques and it takes 4-5 stacked holds to actually break the mez protection.The rest are easy to hold in well organised teams.

In teams using targetters and furthermore advanced targetters with assist command stalkers go through nightmare with focused holds on them that result to insta holding.

By the way advanced targeter can be played only by /dev blasters.

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I hadnt thought of this strategy, need to try it on my own /dev blaster next time i get the chance

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I seem to remember seeing Colonel Greek (on my flatmates computer) faceplanting quite a few times after being hit by scourge last night.

Seems nobody is invulnerable.

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Whats so funny about that story?

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how many blasters/corrupters do you see standing their ground vs a brute?

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Bad, totally incorrect generalisation.

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well its just the same as people generalising stalkers saying all we do is run away which is broadcast all the time in pvp. this was my whole point in the 1st place, its ok for people to label stalkers as being cowards and having a go at our tactics apparantly but no other at's retreat do they???

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I think the main point TG was trying to make is that Stalkers are primarily designed to be "runners" or more specifically "hit&run(ners)", with a pick up & play feel to them. Similar to how blasters are primarlily built for ranged combat, BUT, some do get into melee a lot. Whether a stalker SHOULD be able to scrap it out and win is down to opinion (although its the opinion of the devs that matter most ) It seems unfair to have a build that can do both equally as well.

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i had made a suggestion a while ago to actually create a server with ranking system that would be common for all.Koreans,USA,EU,French,Germans....now that would be awsome.A massive server with open battles with teams from all over the world going there.Just imagine the RV chasing the koreans having the flag while allying with the french and germans to kill the usa boys standing in the way If cryptic implements that it would be the move of the century and would bring masses of players in such a server.

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I like it. Just a bit concerened that the UK (where I am) is a lot smaller than say USA and likely to have more players

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Against a controller you ll be held and sit there while the controller kills you.


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Dont stalkers get quite a lot of mez protection? Not disagreeing with you, just that I hear a few stalkers boasting a lot about how holding them is a waste of time. Plus I dont know of any way a controller can get stacked perception without multiple tactics.

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Got a nice demo too will use it as a comedy video soon

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PLEASE do!

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LOL. yup, always good to see big headed talkers get taken down a few pegs.

*pelts you with a snowball* HEEHEE
Didnt know you lived in lapland

Regarding the comments on AR blasters. Was thinking 2 or more AR blasters with perception could cover each other and create a nice kill zone between them. Doubt i have time to go roll an AR/dev blaster though Maybe I'l hang on and get that long range missile in the epic pools.

Assault give res to placate which might be worth having.

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Dont listen to her!
Its tactics you want, not manouvers, and yellow inspirations are chewy, not crunchy.
Never used yellows much to help, i think the idea is use one after an AS. Hammer said something about igniting the ground. Assuming thats a targetted AoE you can save time by binding it to the shift key+right mouse button. You can also hear the noise buildup makes to know when your likely to get attacked.

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You can't go directly to Tactics though, can you? You have to pick something else from the Leadership pool first.

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sorry, I thought u meant manouvers would give +perception.

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Okies, just wondered why the issue of flying heroes was raised, presumably he doesnt have fly.

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I don't know why it was raised either - I'm guessing Foamy doesn't know about flying Stalkers.

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about what Stalkers can and cannot do.

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Reminds me of that silly ninja site (http://www.realultimatepower.net/) where he says ninjas can fly
Something i've noticed is that AS seems to get interrupted a lot if you TP next to your mark.

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Is there anything in the AR/Eng set to help with perception? Or is it just manuveurs?

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Maneuvers, (Tactics), is a good place to start as is teaming with an empath Def/Ctrl who can give you clear mind. If you're teaming with someone else who has tactics, then staying close to them will help and there's always those crunchy yellow insps. If you're in Sirens and heroes have the ball, then you can pick up Infra Red Goggles too.

From the now completely useless bin of information, if you'd gone */Dev, then Targeting Drone would increase your accuracy and perception too.

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Dont listen to her!
Its tactics you want, not manouvers, and yellow inspirations are chewy, not crunchy.
Never used yellows much to help, i think the idea is use one after an AS. Hammer said something about igniting the ground. Assuming thats a targetted AoE you can save time by binding it to the shift key+right mouse button. You can also hear the noise buildup makes to know when your likely to get attacked.

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Cant you AS a flying hero or something?

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Yes, you can. If you can fly too. I can't.

As I have Impale I decided to do without fly and have become pretty useful at hitting someone with impale and judging where they're going to crash land, so that I can be there waiting with placate and AS.

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Okies, just wondered why the issue of flying heroes was raised, presumably he doesnt have fly.

@ barricade.

I dont know of anything in AR/dev that with +perception, tactics has +perception and assault has res to placate. As for what attack to hit them with, I dont know, something 3 slotted for accuracy and preferably with a good chance to drop a toggle.

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I do admit, there were times for me when I thought Stalkers were overpowered. but now I just figure, "If thy're evil, they dont have to lay by that rules" plus, i'm finding it alot easier to fight them, especially with that new temp power that allows you to seen hidden enemies


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Were not over powered....
Spread the word!

I wish I could tell people why and that they would actually listen to my reasoning, yet I think pigs have a chance to develop wings before that will happen..

K

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Pork wings for lunch :P

ps. almost mispelt that as pork wangs

Cant you AS a flying hero or something?

Not sure I buy the theory that stalkers never moan about stalker counter measures. Thankfully the vast majority are good natured but there are still plonkers around who choose to play as a stalker. If you dont want to take up my last suggestion you could use ignore, I've been using it a lot recently and I'm having a lot more fun.

hehe stalker bingo. LOL @ mellon!