Major Deej

Damn... I love your posts!

That must be my evil clone, Dark Deej! He says EXACTLY the opposite of what is true!

Don't fret, Michelle; there's always one kid in the classroom that has to be the a$%^$@ of the universe to get attention; in this case, that would be the moron who posted that.

If it means anything, your efforts are greatly appreciated by the Major Deej household! The family each gives you 4 out of 4 stars on this one!

Oh SNAP!

Agreed, and I truly hope that the newer, unique ideas generated can and will be implemented in lieu of compromised quick add-ons.

I imagine that we all in our little community have quite a distinctive imagination and, from what I've read on related topics in these forums, an equally sound judgement as to the types of items and content the bases need.

I'm more than willing to give a concerted effort in discussion and ideas for our small community as so many have thusfar.

So, as Shadestorm asked and to keep the ball rolling, anyone else got any ideas for fun stuff that could be added to existing functions to promote SG play?

Initially, when reading this and several other related threads, I thought the same thing, "something new" is/has been needed.

I've been told I have an 'active imagination' and that I've been able to come up with some neat ideas in the past, however, with age and work & military-invoked pessimism, I've also learned to 'read the card player's tells' and make decisions with relative compromise at times. My 'read' on bases, in general, as related to our devs, is that without a collective (or even singular) driving developer behind it, bases shall continue to languish without new things. The devs will throw us a bone once in awhile, but not at high development time and expense. This seems to be their modus apperendi of late.

While I LOVE the idea of 'new' (and I agree with our point about the push of power customization), I think the compromise of utilizing existing system 'with a twist' is probably the best hope I personally see for bases at this point.

Aside from my pessimistic view, I do honestly subscribe to the desire for new and exciting features in the bases. Supergroups DESERVE to have unique functionality in bases as earned features. With tthe two suggestions I toosed out there, I figured, at minimal dev time & effort, they would promote more teaming, infuse mid to larger SGs/VGs with purpose, and establish a potential for invigorating PvP, AE and Arena utilization across the board.

In regards to the idea of 'new ' items made available for the bases to parallel your inputs on a training room idea, I agree to most of these features.

Aren't these kinda similar to the inclusive functionality I suggested for Arena SG/VG Training Room unique interfacing?

I'll agree that badges/titles would be a great way to identify those that use/utilize a Training/Danger Room, as such, though, I'd meld these two ideas together by making the badge name as an existing aux title/chosen badge name (on screen, located underneath the row with the character's name (which floats over his head)) title that already exists with badges; instead call the badge named something like: "Supergroup/Villaingroup Trained", "Supergroup/Villaingroup Expert Trainer", "Supergroup/Villaingroup Master Trainer" (just suggestions for the titles/badge names).

Interesting idea; maybe to round the idea to a simpler means; make a "wild card" Inspritation.

How many times have we been in a battle and we have 2 yellow inspirations in our personal Inspriation Inventory left and can't get a 3rd to craft a green inspriation when yo need it? Instead, if you use the training rooms, you can gain "SG/VG Inspirations" (3 tiered of course, relating to the three level of training as mentioned in your posts above) that acts as a wild card for ANY relative tiered inspiration.

If you have those two yellow inspirations and need that evasive third one to craft that one green inspiration to get you thorugh the final leg of the battle, if you have a properly tiered "SG/VG Inspiration", you can use it as a wildcard to draft that one green inspiration you need.

Regardless, I am truly all for new content/features and ideas. I think the ideas that are being discussed and collated are intrinsically valuable to getting what is desperately needed - attention to the bases and supergroups.

I'm happy to be in the company of positively-motivated like-minders. I dislike compromise or re-utilization as much as the next person, but after decades or 2x4s to the head over issues like this, I have grown a bit more compromising in certain aspects.

I simply wish our devs had the capacity to assign a solely-focused "Bases/Supergroups" dev to our plight without ganking him off to other unrelated taskings. This way, I believe much of all we are requesting would have a more prolific voice in the house of Paragon Studios, especially at their planning/idea meetings.

I'm not sure if this is what might be representative of what you are looking for, but I've posted a couple of ideas in the Suggestion Thread that might have some relevancy to what might be useful for us to use as content in the bases:

Training (Danger) Room for Bases
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=242816

Add a Unique AE Interface for SG/VG Bases
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=242829

In regards to the cross-utilizaton of both AE and Arena to these two suggestions, although I am not a programmer, it seems easier to use existing game tech (due to the diminished focus on bases by devs) than create new content for said bases.

Using existing in-game mechanics and maybe tweaking what we have and applying it to the bases might be a stepping stone to get some activity back in the bases, and maybe a little more attention by the devs to our needs.

I know there are many more incredible suggestions and ideas out here in the forums in terms of ideas and suggestions for the bases, but maybe a bit of (what I deem) easier-to-make additional ("unique") functionality might help the base/SG/VG community.

For current simplicity, use the maps already available in arena.

Personally, I'd LOVE to have a tool to 'copy' the base itself into an instanced map to use in the training room, which if that tool was available for Arena/Training Room use, could (should) easily be utilized for AE map use as well. It would be a great way of emulating a PvE version of a base raid. But that's just me (or are there more out there that think this is a cool idea too?).

To dream a bit further, I'd love it also if the devs/programmers could figure out a way to use that same said 'copy' tool for a base instance and apply it to a PvP Base Raid in that instance, that way no base items get damaged, require to be replaced or make the base owner cry when all their hard work is seen undone, yet everyone gets the fun experience of a PvP base raid.

But I digress.

Arena maps would be fine for the Training Room; they 'd be explained off as holographic (holodeck)-type environments (or spun-off from Doctor Aeon's AE tech) made in the confines of a large room, which doesn't necessarily need to be an actual base room at all (i.e., you don't have to use prestige to purchase an additional room to enact as a 'makeshift' Training Room; all you'd need is the Training Room Console base item in a Control Room, and as mentioned by Forbin, maybe use the Raid Teleporter to enter the console-selected instanced (arena) Training Room environment/map).

As a mechanical engineer, I love wrenches.

I do not, however, want them on my cape.

Please remove the wrenches, Art Team!

I didn't want to dash any Issue 19 launch day positive vibes with a post myself, but I came to the same conclusion this last weekend.

Didn't want to say much seeing as how it might be sad news for some, especially when what seems like many of us will be doing a LOT of respecing for the Fitness Pool inherents, which will probably be bleeding over into the Winter Event and Christmas break, pending our number of alts.

*crosses fingers, hopes I'm wrong, and Issue 19 comes out earlier*

Good research, Kheldarn!