Luminos

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The fun part imho, people calling themself blapper the moment they pick 1 or 2 melee powers from their secondairy, while every secondairy have these powers and basicly is part of the blaster set (read discription on coh page).

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Indeed, theres no such thing as a Blapper, its a Blaster in Melee.

How can you be a hybrid between a Blaster and a Scrapper if your squishy and within criticals hit relatively the same damage cord? :P

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It says a lot about the AT's design when the 'high damage, no defense but prefers to stay at range' character can forego his ranged attacks entirely and do more damage in melee with little loss to survivabilty.

Fire/Eng FTW!

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First copy of CoH i bought even on the installation screen it says Blasters are deadly in melee, though prefer to stay at range due to lack of protection.

Besides, you won't lose survivability to dead mobs, which is what they should be moments after you enter melee

I have never seen anything short of a miracle (read: The Hamidon/) take down an Invincible Tank using his tier 9 power. Ofcourse you can always gank them to hell, but with the added mez resistance they can just run. All in all their tier 9 power does exactly what it says on the tin; makes them 'Unstoppable'.

If he had an offensive powerset too, then i'd definatly advise just to keep clear as a Mastermind till his power drops.


However now we are on the topic of RV heavies, damn is the hero one wimpy and the villain one nasty! :P Lets just go over the review:

Melee
Hero: None
Villain: 2 high damage toxic/lethal damage with DoT function.

Ranged:
Hero: Grenade Launcher (S damage), Energy Grenade (AoE), Seeker Drones (-acc), Poison grenade)
Villain: Lightning Bolt (Energy damage), Ball Lightning (AoE), Web Grenade, Cocoon, Web Envelope, Toxic venom (ST with dot function), Toxic venom Cone (Toxic with DoT Function).

Nuke:
Hero: Single Target Energy Cannon
Villain: PBAoE Energy 'Nuke'

Overall pretty balanced in terms of powers, but its the damage types and the functions that are worst, Toxic damage & DoTs? Very unresisted and the dots allowing for single hit kills. Whereas the Heroes heavy is pure Smashing and Energy Damage, mainly resisted.

Ive played on both sides in RV and i would choose the villain heavy ANY day of the week for PvE, PvP, looks.

What are other peoples views on this?

(Back on topic quick my Brute can solo a heavy without PowerSurge, but needs it for killing a hero and a heavy; whereas my blaster gets them to half health, runs out of steam (recharge healing etc) and gets his butt kicked good)

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There is little honour in death, you will simply die

Also the general opinion that inspirations are somehow 'cheating' is dangerous and must be rooted out. They are put into the game for a reason by devs, and exist for us to use. Ultimately, pvping without inspirations on a blaster will get you nowhere.

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And if thats your genuine opinion then i don't think your suited for PvP, certainly not whilst playing a blaster at least. Indeed there is no honour in death, but neither is there in hitting the defence or resistance cap via popping several hundred inspirations. If you play to win, yes, inspirations are more than fair game, but if your playing for excitement, or to test your character, inspirations are possibly the most useless things ever, they alter your character temporarily, so to the fact you don't actually know how to play without them sometimes.

They were put into the game well before PvP, they have not been removed for PvP, that neither tells us they are meant for PvP or not, however it makes fools out of us all to assume what the right and wrong thing to do in this case. Truth is characters in the CoX world are meant to compliment each other, the use of inspirations offsets this to make solo play easier.

And furthermore PvP'ing without inspirations as a blaster will get you nowhere? Ha, as a blaster i've taken on 3 brutes before and won, and 1 brute and a stalker in a 2vs1. Both without inspirations, the problem you have is a lack of tactics i think if your finding playing a blaster in pvp without inspirations an uphill struggle, a blaster can do alot more than smash (Jums disorienting, Plights End Drain, any Ice blasters holds etc).





Back on topic anyway, Sonic/Energy is a great build, ive seen these stun through even the best disorient resistance with a little luck & some ingenuity. A Power that is a must from the sets themselves is most noteably Power Boost, i only wish i could have this on my non Energy Manipulation Blaster!

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cheers guys, methinks its time for some tray stacking with some break frees and focused rage

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A Mastermind thought it was funny to stick me and a friend into a corner in RV the other day and try and hold us perma there, waiting for the heavy to catch up.

However, he also seemed to of neglected the fact that Electricity Blasters can dish out a fair bit of damage to a range with a BU+Aim+Lightning Bolts+Thunderous Blaster combo

Poor crispy friend Mastermind

I agree with Thundorn on this matter to be honest, i'd consider a gank a fight where the odds are so stacked against you the liklihood of coming out on top is a futile venture.

I'd say everyone ganks at some time or another, but thats not necessarily a bad thing. A win is a win, however i think if you gank to acheive the win (anything above equal terms, 1vs1 - 2vs2 etc, you kinda lose all bragging rights)

It all depends on who im fighting and what kind of mood im in as to whether i myself gank. If i know the villain my group wants to attack, i'll hang back (alot of villains now :P). However if its a villain i don't like that much i'll take much pleasure in joining in on the action :P

Also depends on mood, if i think the group can handle it, i'll hang back and watch the fireworks, but if im just in an annoyed mood (if the enemies religiously say you suck after getting ganked), there is no force on heaven nor earth that could stop me from attacking relentlessly in any circumstances i could to win.

Now heres one, if your not a stalker or have no invisibilty powers, can you still stalk?

I think alot of players forget that other people only can see infront of them and slightly to the side, i know on my blaster i have followed a enemy, ducking behind trash canisters and hiding behind walls until a situation is favouring me (MM's use their minions to attack something, thus dropping bodyguard.

Would that be considered ganking or tactics?

Ganking is 2 stalkers AS'ing at once, or several blasters pounding, or 2 on 1.

Tbh i always thought it was like ganging up =/

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Would like to challenge the person who wins on test server.

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Ofcourse you would ya GM soloing Ill/Rad you! :P

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I'll stand with you, Ducky! We can fall together, and take some of them with us!

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Seconded, im with you Ducky! :P

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allright you dont NEED to say ur toon here before the tournament, just so u will be there when its starts, and im gonna write the new ones that havent signed up on the forums

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Oh man you know im totally down for this!

Sign me up; you know the toon

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Looking to (eventually) a villionous PvP charactor, but i just can't decide what to chose

I was thinking along the lines of a Corrupter/Dominator, I dont relly want a Brute or a Stalker.

Help please.

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Any primary and the secondary /Kin /Rad /Dark

And you'll be fine in PvP, i recommend Fire, Sonic and Ice

All of those combinations are deadly.

Contact me via:

In game tell @Luminos

PM

bob0848@hotmail.com (msn)


I'd be more than happy to give you some practice with your builds.

Ah just realised why, this was a 1vs1, not a team deathmatch

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There's a cage match arena fight?

Hmm... that'd sure put a stop to the "run away screaming like a little AR blast... ah.. girl!" tactics!

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Its better, you can escape the cage through a little hole in the wall and fight inside Pocket D itself. Its really fun, running away is still a tactic, but its much better as its like navigating a nightclub :P (because... it... is :O)

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That would be interesting, but in my experiences in there (admittedly few) the map couldn't be chosen, but it was selected at random.

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Its the only map in Pocket D Arena

Just as a suggestion, why not hold this on Test Server? Then you could use the new Arena map in Pocket D, cage match & half the establishment. Would really be cool, had a fight there with a brute last night.

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See, now THIS is what PvP should be! People having fun, friendly banter, no bad trash talk!

Oh, and me laughing over FG's derezzing carcass!

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I have to admit though, I'd still expect your Photon Seekers (assuming you have them) to appear and then rush off to the corner of the arena in a sulk before making a beeline for FG, arriving just a second too late. Now THEY are some of the most n00bish AI in the game.

Which doesn't reflect on anyone on this post, regardless of how quickly they've faceplanted

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Petition for guide dogs for the visually impaired Photon Seekers?

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See, now THIS is what PvP should be! People having fun, friendly banter, no bad trash talk!

Oh, and me laughing over FG's derezzing carcass!

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99% of it is, its just the forums attract more negative discussion than positive discussion, as its easier to [censored] and moan than it is to praise :P

*Edit: In my opinion

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Im going to say if it were an unskilled power versus power match the Peacebringer would win hands down, but the right tactics here could swing the fight in the completely opposite direction. Though, i have no faith in AR, or Fire, (what Epic do you have?). 10-2 on FFG for the win.

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Epic? That would be telling. If FFM gets to keep his sets secret, so do I. If you want to know, come along and find out tonight!

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Well, actually Peacrbginers don't have epics... and being Tri-Form if he is built well he won't have 'many' secrets, i think its only fair to aid in the betting process. Its not like we won't find out :P

Im going to say if it were an unskilled power versus power match the Peacebringer would win hands down, but the right tactics here could swing the fight in the completely opposite direction. Though, i have no faith in AR, or Fire, (what Epic do you have?). 10-2 on FFG for the win.

Ofcourse i'd take you both down at the same time, but it should be worth a watch!

Split between my Brute and my Blaster, i'll let you know when he hits 50 Oly

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You do realize that you can just buy some Resistance Insps to combat this right? You head out the zone, stack up on some Oranges and you'll have no more problems.

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Thats dealing with the consequence, not the problem and counter productive.

Almost tantamount with America's - To avoid being attacked by terrorists we'll go to war with a country where they happen to be based!

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It isnt griefing and it isnt fair game.

Its a situation where some tool is getting off by teledroning. Theres no logic behind it if he wasnt getting attacked, and there was no reason to continue several times.

Ofcourse everything is 'fair' game in pvp, but that doesnt mean you can't extend a little common courtesy for your enemy, as without them, who are you going to play with?

Last arguement i had in SC was over a similar situation, and the arguement of 'its a pvp zone, anything goes' was used. I simply logged onto my hero, and called a villain friend into the zone. He confused me and i continued to kill the player wherever i saw him. When he told me i was 'cheating' or acting 'unfairly', i came back with the same arguement 'Its a pvp zone, anything goes'.

It was clever or fair of me to do that, but i think it put things into perspective. If someone in a pvp zone asks me to stop attacking, depending on the circumstances i'll leave off (Talking or socialising whilst dueling i leave, people trying to get xp, i kill (most of the time)).

What the guy did was wrong morally, but not wrong from a game mechanics point of view. This is more an arguement of courtesy than it is of right and wrong.

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speed (for hasten)

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*cough* lightening reflexes *cough*

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QFT!

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thanks for that luminos, ill probably take it for sure after reading that

and OVWyx... im not using any of the melee attacks in energy manipulation except power thrust, and that's only when i need to knock a stray baddie back to the tank, or just away from me.

not intersted in blapping at all with this character.

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If you have test enabled i'll take you on a mission or two (catch me on the Precision Rangers Forum) to show you what its like. First hand experience is always useful.

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-Lack of balance between powersets (see tanker/scrapper secondaries/primaries, IE: EM v.s. ...mace...)
-And back onto balance...again

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I like this thread already.

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Me too

PvP is not ballanced in the slightest.

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If by balanced then you mean everything is equal then no, it isnt.