Repulsion?


Brimmy

 

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I am in RV at the moment playing some PVP and one of the villain MM powers is some kind of repulsion field that cannot be entered. But said player is using this field to push players into mobs to intentionally cause debt.

Even out of the temporal pillboxes from behind the forcefields no less!

Is this working as intented?



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How do you know he's trying to get people debt. I've been accused of the same thing for using TK yet its something I've never tryed to do.


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because he was in a team and they made no effort to attack the heroes for PVP, just watch him push people into mobs.



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Why did you not use your travel power and bail from the range of this feild ?


 

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I had already recently used elude so used all my speed enhancing powers and GvE jump pack to try and stay mobile, but this guys power selection allowed him to combine fly and other speed powers to push me away from my own base, police drones and assets like turrets.

It's a well thought out set, but I don't think its balanced that someone can have a shield up that cant be moved through, then use movement powers to push other players into hazards rather than actually fighting them.



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push me away from my own base, police drones and assets like turrets.

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He was not able to be droned ?


 

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didn't get close enough to a drone to find out, the field was so wide that any lateral movements I made were easily diverted into something nasty!



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If this is still going on, i'll get my Kinetic and stack Increase Density on you so you can beat the snot out of him.


 

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I am findin it hard to see how he go to the hero base and not be droned. I would have to see to beleave but you should be able to counter his affects with superspeed and hit him with GD. That will scare the pants off him ^.^


 

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There are 2 powers in the FF set that are capable of this Repulsion Field and Force Bubble and having a lvl 50 Bots/FF MM i know 1 of these powers as i don't take repulsion field so that leaves force bubble it's not completley without flaws as there are powers that resist repel like unyielding from the invul set


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I am findin it hard to see how he go to the hero base and not be droned. I would have to see to beleave but you should be able to counter his affects with superspeed and hit him with GD. That will scare the pants off him ^.^

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he wasnt in the hero base, he was using his field from keeping people that he was using this tactic on from getting to the hero base to get drone assistance!



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I am findin it hard to see how he go to the hero base and not be droned. I would have to see to beleave but you should be able to counter his affects with superspeed and hit him with GD. That will scare the pants off him ^.^

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he wasnt in the hero base, he was using his field from keeping people that he was using this tactic on from getting to the hero base to get drone assistance!

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I'd say that was ok. Often I'l try to outrun a fleeing target to there base and TK them in the opposite direction.


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i can understand using holds or something on fleeing targets, but the question at hand was being able to push them out of the shields that the pillboxes have, then being able to push people into mobs using travel powers to physicially force people across the map?



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There are 2 powers in the FF set that are capable of this Repulsion Field and Force Bubble and having a lvl 50 Bots/FF MM i know 1 of these powers as i don't take repulsion field so that leaves force bubble it's not completley without flaws as there are powers that resist repel like unyielding from the invul set

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Repulsion field doesn't do repel, it does knockdown. The name is deceiving.


 

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because it was PVP I couldnt get player info to find what power it was, just describing it as best as i could lol.

I'm glad there is a way round it, but its still incredibly annoying, if not a little cheap



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it will be force bubble, to be fair the power is quiet difficult to use in zonal pvp without causing aggro from NPC's on either side.

But if you find the person is continualy pushing you into enemy NPC's go hug a few friendly NPC's and the bubble will aggro them if he/she tries it again.

alternatively I believe (may be mistaken) that 4-5 Break Frees will let you wlak straight into the bubble and squish to your hearts content


 

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I think it's 4 break frees.

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Correct.


 

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Force Bubble can be moved through using Unstoppable, MoG or getting Increase Density applied to you.

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Unyielding also neutralizes force bubble.


 

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cheers guys, methinks its time for some tray stacking with some break frees and focused rage



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cheers guys, methinks its time for some tray stacking with some break frees and focused rage

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A Mastermind thought it was funny to stick me and a friend into a corner in RV the other day and try and hold us perma there, waiting for the heavy to catch up.

However, he also seemed to of neglected the fact that Electricity Blasters can dish out a fair bit of damage to a range with a BU+Aim+Lightning Bolts+Thunderous Blaster combo

Poor crispy friend Mastermind


 

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Superspeed will also allow you to joust someone inside of Force Bubble - I speak from experience! I reckon thats a bug that needs fixing though - the ticks of repulsion are not fast enough to affect a superspeeder in time before they get into melee.

Force Bubble and Dispersion Bubble are the powers that makes my MM viable in mass PvP, giving me protection against melee and controlling types, allowing me to concentrate on ranged attackers.

Same as melee types can ignore controlling types as they have inherent shields against that sort of thing.


 

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I never really liked the arena, but do like PVP zones, guess this kind of info is really best discovered in arena, which is why I'm probably at a disadvantage against others!



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Superspeed will also allow you to joust someone inside of Force Bubble - I speak from experience! I reckon thats a bug that needs fixing though - the ticks of repulsion are not fast enough to affect a superspeeder in time before they get into melee.

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Where were you when I posted this??. It's been broken for quite some time now. Even in PVE I've seen mobs pushing against the lower repel ticks quite effectively. It's ridiculous.

I'm guessing the number of actual people playing the FF set doesn't justify a fix any time soon.

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maybe, instead of them fixing the tick rate( I suspect this has to do with the "fix" to Hurricane which also affects FB ), they could increase the AoE range with another 10 - 15 yards or just enough to prevent any SS'ers to get into Melee range.