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Quote:I'm sorry, I said I would stay away, but this troll is too much. If you need someone else to babysit your pets, you are a bad MM, plain and simple, regardless of whether or not the ridiculous fact of a 'healer' in this game.Originally Posted by magicj
The team already had a healer and the healer needs to heal anyway, if for no other reason than to heal pets. You're not going to spend time bubbling a bunch of mastermind pets. But healers keep them going (and buffed as well) for free.
But this is talking to a trolling brickwall. So please go back to your other game that requires healers and stop trolling the players here that want to help players and give sound advice.
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Quote:This is my last post in this thread.Originally Posted by Deacon_NA
Whether we're dealing with trolling or ignorance, I neither know nor care. I thought it wiser to step away from the "debate" just as I would with a "New Earther" arguing that humans walked the Earth with dinosaurs 6000 years ago, I advise others to do the same.
I agree, and I feel bad for contributing to this thread, especially since magicj has a history of these type of arguments that all almost seem to be borderline or just actual trolling. -
Apparently, to a certain longtime FFer that has randomly decided to return, FF bubbles are worthless to a team and if you need them, you should l2play and reroll your toon.
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Quote:Actually bodyguard mode IS better then PFF, it doesn't internalize your defenses and prevent you from influencing the battle, either by commanding your pets OR supporting them. Also you can't provoked while PFFed, and you do know that your pets lose supremecy as well correct? so they lose damage and tohit when you hit PFF.Originally Posted by magicj
Well, let's take a look at the original example given in the first post to this thread. The toon had all the personal MM attacks and all the FF powers except little bubbles. So what can that toon do?
● First of all, because they're not spending time giving out bubbles no one needs, they can spend they're time watching the fight and directing their attacks where they're most needed. For example, If a healer sudden gets some dangerous aggro, the MM can direct the bots at it or use Provoke to grab the aggro. That'll do a lot more to save the healer than the little bubbles will do.
● Secondly, the MM can use their personal MM attacks and vet attacks to contribute to team damage. I'll grant you this damage isn't vast, but it's better than passing out bubbles that no one needs. And the OP stated clearly the team did great with no bubbles.
● Third, the MM can use Repair and Aid Other to keep his bots operating a full force. This will again provide extra damage which is better than useless bubbles no one on the team needs.
● Fourth, by skipping the little bubbles the MM frees up two slots to take other types of support powers that may actually be useful. An example of that could be taking Recall Friend and Resurrect.
And no, body guard mode is not better than PFF. But the two compliment each other nicely. It's a relationship somewhat like an Ice Tanker with Hibernate.
Also pets are squishy, and have very low health, AND aid other and repair are both ST and one has a long cooldown, How are you going to outheal AoE damage since your pets are lacking in defense without the bubbles?
Resurrect? Since when is that needed if the entire team is bubbled? You do know that you can convert 3 of any insp into a wakie correct and pets cannot be rezed? And since fitness is inherent, there should be no problem to fit everything along with the bubbles if you really did want those secondary powers, so that premise is completely shot.
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Quote:A well built MM that takes the bubbles, buffs their pets, abuses bodyguard mode and doesn't rely on a power that renders their primary mostly useless due to the need to reposition their pets and the wonky AI that pets currently have, and can still provide buffs to the team is much better then your bubbleless FFer.Originally Posted by magicj
What you're getting when you invite an FFer to a team is a toon that doesn't die, even in tough situations. They can go on supporting the team, mitigating damage, and providing damage for a very long time.
I'll grant you that many FFers don't know this. They skip PFF on their masterminds, grumble about knockback, etc, and pass out bubbles no one needs.
But a well built, well played FFer should be up with the scrappers, brutes, and tankers in terms of survivability, all while helping the squishier toons to survive as well.
I'll take my +75% resistance as long as I keep my pets alive, hence the bubbles.
And its funny how you can just say that a team doesn't need bubbles for defense, without any evidence OR how you assume all teams are built the same.
PS: Stop trolling this game, especially since you spent all your time in the 'other' game saying how terrible this game is. And I can see how you get your current mentality. That 'other' game prides itself around everyone just building for themselves, well we don't do that here, support/buffs sets actually exist here and your self-only mentality isn't going to change it. -
Quote:So a what would a MM do instead of using the bubbles? Sit around and force bolt and repulsion bomb things to death? Their personal attacks are laughable, and MMs with dead pets don't do much damage.Originally Posted by magicj
Which would be one reason why you don't just turn PFF on and leave it on.
EDIT: And you know what is better then PFF for MMs? Bodyguard mode with softcapped pets. -
Quote:PFF shuts off the ability for a MM to command their pets.Originally Posted by magicj
No PFF in sonic.
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Quote:Castle had already stated the problem in the past, the burn patch is using the new burn patch pet (which is a much weaker burn patch) for the missile patch, which is why it doesn't cause fear and has much less damage.Originally Posted by Sailboat
Sorry about the lack of responses to this. I've never heard of this, and don't know anything about it, but I'm interested in seeing what the consensus is.
Lets hope it gets fixed soonish. -
Quote:The same reason why people keep stating what content the devs are going to develop and crying d00m that everything is going to be end game incarnate content.Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Why people guess instead of asking, and why they seem so confident in their guesses, is something I haven't figured out.
IE. Without being inside the NDA locked beta or any other evidence besides random conjecture. -
Quote:Then come up with ideas to give to the devs, that can be consitutated as 'endgame' but still solo, without dumbing down the entire concept of it.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
What I don't think it's fair to assume is that "end game" is the same as "forced teaming." I don't mind the TFs, provided we have alternatives, which based on... Everything simply will not happen. Ever.
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Quote:And yet, in all the test, you don't explain why the opposite must be true.Originally Posted by ShadowsBetween
Why do people constantly think that "MMO" means "YOU MUST TEAM!" Or that people that don't want to team up are somehow anti-social trogs?
I personally don't like to team up, *especially* with PUGs. I've tried it, it's not fun. Aside from my nearly supernatural ability to join groups lead by Build Nazis, I have a very low tolerance for juvenile behaivior. Player X may think that "off color" comment or that macro that makes their character look like they're air-humping are funny. I think they're usually a good reason to use /ignore.
In any case, if the devs wanted to FORCE people to get a team for this arc, it should have been a TF. Since it isn't, people have the expectation that it should be possible to solo it. I haven't run this mission since the last patch that changed it. The two times I have run it, I had to use both of the tactics the devs apparently decided were "not working as intended." IE, pulling him out of sight of the clones, or focusing on killing clones until they simply stopped spawning, *THEN* dealing with Trapdoor. Neither of my characters that has ran this mission appears to be capable of killing clones faster than they can spawn, so attacking Trapdoor directly proved pretty pointless both times. And for my zombie Mastermind, trying to get him into the lava would have been counterproductive - zombies are a lot more flammable than Trapdoor is.
It doesn't matter though. I don't intend to try running the mission again. It's clear that the devs don't want "players like me" to participate in the Incarnate system. The Alpha slot is only barely possible to do solo in any case. I'm sure that they will follow the same bad example as "that other game," and that future Incarnate slots will flatly *require* a TF to unlock. (And quite probably that each one will require all the Incarnate slots that have been released up to that point to even attempt.) I already quit another more popular game, precisely *because* that's how the entire endgame worked.
I find it mildly ironic that the one thing that looks likely to cause me to quit playing CoH is the "new endgame" content that is supposedly meant to give "veteran" players more to do.
And you start ranting and making assumptions about what is going to happen.
Its funny that people keep trying to compared this system to other endgame systems and content. They would laugh in your face at how easy and simple it is to get all the 'endgame' stuff that apparently is so hard for a few people.
And if people are so against "endgame' stuff, why are they so intent on making sure they can do it if they don't want to do it because it offends them that it is part of an 'endgame' system? They told us that this stuff is for people that want more challenge and endgame content, so if you aren't intreasted in it, why are so you intent on complaining about it? I guess the rest of the game is gone now the system is in place and we didn't get ANY non-incarnate content this Issue.
All I have to say is this, "Adapt, or Don't Do it" and the D0000M about future content is amusing.
IE. and its rich that the example is an MM having trouble, one of the Kings of soloing, I'm sorry if you can't do it on an MM, its not the content, its you. -
Quote:A player's stats are in the single digits when faced against +10 targets.Originally Posted by Madam_Enigma
Talk about extreme overkill. What, do you expect to be fighting +10 enemies regularly?
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Quote:Its not all tankers, its just JB (and a few others) that want to be god inside the game, and think that is balance.Originally Posted by ketch
As a controller player, I am amused at the offense taken when a single AV battle circumvents Tanker survivability. For years, every AV fight and quite a few EB's have had in place a mechanism that nullifies nearly all control. As much as I hate the PToD and wish that there was a different, more dynamic mechanism in place (something like periods of high protection against different mezzes rather than a single time with immunity from nearly everything), it's a simple matter that you can't always be the top dog.
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Quote:And if you really did want another AoE, you would really only need one extra, and Ball Lightning is superior to Static Discharge.Originally Posted by Jibikao
But SoA already has many aoe available... I don't see why you would need more than one aoe from patron.
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Quote:Well remember that you can only use two of the procs at a time, since you can't be in both forms at the same time.Originally Posted by Cainus
That is indeed good news. Now, are people triple slotting the Performance Shifter proc (2 forms plus Stamina), or is that just crazy overkill?
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Quote:Times like those are also when -regen is most important, almost nothing is worse then doing fine killing those AVs and then getting stuck watching them regen most of their health back when they pop their Tier 9 powers, while you are still wailing on them for minimal damage.Originally Posted by Arbegla
Which is exactly what happens with statesmen and honoree in the RSF and LGTF. Once they pop unstoppable, their resistance becomes greater then 100%, and any resistance debuffs will only increase your damage by the value of the debuff, which a 20% increase of 1 damage, is really only 1.2 damage.
Had a couple LRSFs fail on Statesman just because the team couldn't kill before Unstoppable recharged again and would just keep regening his health back during it. Killed all the other AVs perfectly fine. -
Quote:Sleet can be easily double stacked for -60% resistance with some recharge slotting and hasten. Powers that use pseudo pets can stack with themselves.Originally Posted by Syntax42
As stated before, Sonic primary adds 60% resistance debuffing. Cold primary can also reach this, but requires a lot of global recharge bonuses to maintain the debuffs.
Sleet itself lasts for 15 secs and and the debuff lasts for 30 seconds. With a base recharge of 60 seconds, it is very very easy to double stack Sleet, it would make more recharge to triple stack, but its possible.
Sleet can also take the achilles heel proc for more -res, something that Sonic/ can't do. -
Quote:We did that in the past, nowadays, we skip at most one bloom if the raids are running a bit long. I was only speaking about the incorrect fact that "Virtue" somehow has unorganized and chaotic raids compared to a smaller server.Originally Posted by Leandro
Skipping two blooms = skipping 36 mitos = forfeiting your chance of 3 shard drops. I'd don't think we want to skip blooms.
This assumes your teams are diversified enough to hit all the mitos in every bloom, which I strongly encourage. Put some scrappers in the range team, put some controllers in the tank team. Everybody wins. As you can see in my previous post, in last night's raids I received rewards for 127 out of the 144 mitos; it's not perfect, but it's a lot better than ignoring 24 yellow mitos per raid because you're a blaster.
And yes we now spread out the teams in order to allow everyone to get a chance for shard drops. -
Quote:I'm sorry that you cant just stand there in one place and wail on an enemy ad infinitum. I'll take something that requires a very minimum amount of intelligence over something that is a giant sack of HP that needs to be DPS down.Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane
The OP asked what we thought about the Apex finale and I answered. Stop trying to change my opinion.
It's a massive 'screw you' to Tankers and it validates everything I've ever said that devs marginalize Tankers and force on them a pointless sacrifice of making them hit like little girls in exchange for their dubious job of aggro control and taunt bots in servitude to the other ATs.
The new TFs should die in a fire. In fact, they should die in several blue overlapping non-resistible nanite damage fires, buffed by Bobcat's Vengeance.
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Quote:Traps hasn't been a competitive farming powerset since the nerf to Poison Traps with regards to damage procs.Originally Posted by Eiko-chan
Yes it is.
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Quote:Uh, Virtue Raids are mostly lead by a core group of raid leaders and attended by a large but veteran group of players.Originally Posted by Organica
I think the only real difference between a small server raid and a large server raid is that on the small server you have the same group of core veteran players every time, while on a large server raid you have people every raid who have probably never done a hami raid before. I think virtually every time I show up, there's at least one person just on my own team who hasn't done it before, or not in 4 years, or whatever.
Even when it's mostly veteran players, they're probably people where I recognize their names from past raids, but it's not like we TF together every night. Those things can make a difference. ^_^
PS. You don't end up running 2 - 3 raids (on rare occasions 4) without being efficient. Yay for days when we skip two blooms. -
Quote:Having an End Game and being an "End Game" type of game, are two very different types of things. The only type way this game would become the latter is if the devs decide to only develop content for it and disregard developing as much content for lower levels, as well as balancing the game around it like other games do, instead of across all level ranges.Originally Posted by Indiramourning
What does it have to do with "End Game", seems like a new beginning to me for our level 50 characters. But I agree with you in that I don't like games where the "End Game" is what you shoot for. It's the journey to max level, not the arrival, that I enjoy.
I see the Incarnate system as new content for our level 50 characters. And here I am now playing some characters I haven't playing in years and having a ball. Doesn't feel like any kind of End Game at all.
Considering that the devs in this very issue have developed alot of content for lower level content along with the end game incarnate stuff, I don't have any worries.
Edit: and yes this issue has breathed alot of life in my other level 50 alts, and I love the changes in attitudes for running TFs/SFs, I have seen fewer and fewer speed runs TFs. -
Quote:Obviously there should be a ticker-tape parade anytime that announces to the entire server every time a person unlocks their Alpha Slot.Originally Posted by Flarstux
It's not just a slot. Unlocking the Alpha Slot is the first step toward becoming an Incarnate - heck, they named the issue for it. I feel it should be a little more dramatic, even unslotted, than it is, because after unlocking it on my Tanker I don't feel like he's accomplished anything.
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Quote:Don't bother, He is equating 'new content' with 'new zones', all the stuff between going rogue and CoV isn't content apparently.Originally Posted by Furio
You do know that the Incarnate stuff is essentially a separate team, right? Positron stepped aside as lead dev to run the "end game content" team.
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Quote:The only point we have gotten from this is that someone has massive entitlement issues, and that's about it.Originally Posted by Fritzy
That's truly funny. :-)
But, I've a point and you know it.