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Personal assumption (as stated above)
I will assume a Hero that becomes a vigilante (and thus can go both to Isles and Paragon City) stays in the SG. But I will assume that if you go all the way... Your Hero SG cannot accept a known villain in their rank and thus have to boot you. (or be somehow stained with the reputation and maybe be seen as villains too. "Oh hello coaltion.... why do you say arrest us!")
But that is my speculation. The Devs are looking at this issue, and have not given any details. So we are able to speculate.
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Very true Jade.
We know too little to state things. Although at the moment I will tend to opt for the "easiest" or "boring" route... and be happily surprised if I was wrong (and I DO hope I am wrong).
I guess when we leave, we have done the low lvl arcs... no xp to be gained etc, no quests. Not neccessary a kick to primal earth but... where else are you going to go to get contacts, temp powers etc?
Thus choose a path Hero or villain for your entry to either Paragon City or Rogue Isles. I guess aswell that they are rogue/vigilante at that moment.
Boy will they get a shock when they appear on primal. Think a resistance mentality with the fight the system. They come to Paragon city and immidiatly think.. ok where is the bad guy?.. O.. its Statesman!
When hearing about "terrorist" emminating from the Rogue Islands.. "yearright.. terrorist... Hello fellow freedom fighters!"
Oh.. they will get a shock!
Oh wait.. I said I was going to have the boring and easiest route... Guess the "shock" thing wont happen (sooo hope it will).
I just hope the Devs have thought up good enough reasons etc and will give us mooore info soon.(Cause I want to see if they have taken the easy or differcult route)
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Jade Dragon.
There will be no lvl 50 Preatoreans I believe of the following reason.
You can start life as a Preatorean and the following 19 levels (up to lvl 20) will be held in Preatorea. Then you get a choice as all Preatoreans will leave Preatorea and follow their choice towards Hero or Villain.
That is atleast how I have understood what has been given of info. As a Dev (Thinking the head Dev Positron) stated that all Preatoreans will leave Preatoria.
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Quote:Thanks for correction.Two small details:
1) Bug-Hunter is not impossible to obtain and there is nothing theoretical about people getting it.
2) The Liberator badge had its named changed to 'Power Liberator' to eliminate a conflict with another badge with the same name. (Liberator badge for completing the Eden trial.)
For Bug Hunter it is a rare badge. Story goes to around a handful having that badge. So by all means as Ironblade said, not impossible. However rewarded by a Dev/GM at said persons will, thus in theory not impossible. So i'll moderate the impossible to ultra rare then.
Power Liberator, oh right, name change (sound of hand meeting forhead). Wish to see it in the future though. -
Been looking for the info but was unable to find it.
I remember during the first day of Herocon there was written somewhere on the boards that there might be issue 17 and issue 18 before GR.
However Issue 17 was a minor thingy, issue 18 was going to be great. (No further info though about either of them). But the timeframe from previous issues would indicate that we get something before GR launches.
I will not believe though that there will not be an issue before GR comes around, and while GR beta is on its way. It would just be too much time without anything. Even though most of the team works on GR, there are issues planned and worked on. Even though we don't hear about it. Do wonder though *Looks towards the Devs hoping to get their attention* when we will hear more... -
Well being a badge-wh.. umm badge-affordable friend & based on the info that a hero go vigilante before the final step. I do ponder if my main badger will go vigilante a moment or two to get the villain badges. And then it was that 'reward thing' for staying true...
But until we know more I will leave it to that thought.
As for where my chars are in the morality compass:
Lady Arete, reformed criminal and sorceress and released after the first rikti war. Have worked since then besides heroes to redeem herself in her own eyes. She is serious, focused and fights Circle mages at any oppertunity.
(Also my main badger so... this will be interesting) Sure she might see herself above the law a few times (Oh no... the Circle mage had a fatal accident) but else she wants to keep the status quo or even better if possible (with others).
Cyrene. Heroine through and through. She works hard to preserve nature, have fun and keep the villains in check. Her tender heart might be her undoing (we will see). Person type: Caretaker and optimist.
Amardin. The robot that wants to become human. Ok she has no moral compass (accidently deleted), but has begun making her rules. She wants to better herself and does so through tecktheft and smuggling, experiment etc... She has become uncertain of why she is still on the isles though and begun wondering about hero society and their world. They seem to work together without fear of being backstabbed (Are they naive or are they on to something, but what?) They seem to generally want to help people (Do they got an agenda or...?) They obey rules and do not attack each other. There seem to be a different law system there and here... Something is... do not compute!
Even got a clone villain version of Cyrene, but due to RP I have a feeling she might go Rogue aswell. Only problem, I will then not have a Pain corr on red side
Else not sure if any (or who) of my chars will take the step and change side completely. Got quite a few in that grey zone inbetween though. -
The badges that are impossible to gain atm are:
Celebrant: 1 year anniversary
Reveler: 2 year anniversary
5'th column gladiator (for having 1 & 2 anniversary)
Pursuer: Logging in nov 2006 (launch of cov)
Liberator (For taking an item of power. The item of powers where removed after CoP trial... well some time after)
Bug-Hunter: (Given by a Dev to a player for finding a game-breaking bug (in theory))
Passport: Moving chars from US to EU within a certain time.
As said from posters above some will have them (old badge veterans) others will not. If beefcake had moved to Eu for the badge then... well his char would not be able to get back, but he would have gotten a badge.
Harder to get are the Veteran Badges and the Dayjob badges.
Rest of the badges are possible (so hunt for fun). We who are shut off from the "impossible" badges got 689 badges that we can collect. I've included the Dayjob and Veteran badges in this count. (So reduce that amount with what you feel proper).
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Thanks for the clarification Ironblade. Very true. (Thanks for reminding me)
Then I can continue with the clarification and say that it would be true that any mission you can get a badge from normally (like the Alexander one as it is an accomplishment) is not eligible for O-badges.
To the OP, take a look at the link for a nice guide for missions that will grant you badges with the settings. -
Quote:To get the badges you must do an entire arc (more then one mission).I am trying to get these badges and I am having trouble understanding why I do not get badges for certain tasks. For example, I will want to get the badges for doing a level 40-45 mission with no insp, or enhancements. I will finish the mission and it will say that its been completed but I do not get the badges. However, I recently completed a level 45-50 mission using no insp. enhancements etc. and I got all the badges correctly. I am level 50(i dont know if that matters; shouldnt) Has anyone else had these issues? Is it the missions I am doing?
Thanks for the Help!
-Kunu
If you are blueside and want to get the badges, try this Link for Flashback Badges.
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Quote:I sure hope not.Last night I was told by a fellow badger," You do not need to get immortal, you just need to wait till they nerf it." After hearing this i felt slightly annoyed, is this the attuted that comes with badge nerfs, and is this correct. To be able to get all the badges do we just have to wait till they nerf all the badges?
More would take away any sense of accomplishment now. If they do nerf it further it would simply be rediculus.
But if they would do so it would be the same day (I think) that they would place a vendor machine in-game where you can buy Purple recipes, Miracles, Numinas all the hard to come by recipes for between 1-100k each.
Also being so awesome, means our enemies do not have a chance anyway, so it would be the same day we get the "I win" button in missions. Thus getting the rewards at the same time, for just appearing and frightning the enemy to better their ways.
(But seriously)
No, I hope they will not nerf it further. The badges are now on a more sensible level. Some depending upon the AT will need to farm them. I know my mm will have to for her Damage taken badge (that Born in battle accolade.. doh), but hey less waiting time now
So keep on badging... he told you to wait? What kind of badgertalk is that? *Brings forth the whip* Collect them badges!(insert cheering)
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Quote:Well squishy blaster here so I know that would not work for meI got my Immortal badge the old fashioned way. I used the Elite boss version of Tyrant years ago and went into REST in front of him and went to sleep. You kids and you modern work ethic.....
The foundation of getting the badge was done by... you guessed it. Finding some minions to pound on me while resting during the night... while I followed your example -
Well there are a few of us "immortals".
Myself, did get the badge when the Reduction happened.
Still mixed feelings about that since the ones I got left now are day jobs and vet badges and the "What to do now-question" came. -
Quote:Never really thought that Nemesis is at war with the heroes. Sure he is the Architect of a few wars... (To those not done the mission i wont say, but do a mission of a certain Dark watcher)Nemesis is winning the war.
Btw, you forgot the "Coming Storm" (Sometimes I think the Devs have forgotten about it too) so there is another side. City of Heroes is getting as bad as a Marvel crossover.
He Is not interested in having Nemesis Rex or any other versions that are not him in "his" world. Well dimension anyway.
Now we don't know what kind of resources other versions like Nemesis Rex has, but that gate is closed. Our Nemesis has one resource that few other versions of him has... He got heroes that protects this world and having plans within plans, putting heroes against other versions of himself is well...
I say one thing for our version of Nemesis... Lucky git.
But yes, Primal Earth is pretty nosy and attracts the attention of many. It will be fun watching how the preatorean society really is.
With all the references to no-goatie dimension I got a little surprised since i've (and I have a felling im not the only one) thought about lots of versions of my main characters and how they *could* be.
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As subject says this is an Excel sheet I made some time ago and which I have continued to improve and update. Since there was no Badge forum on the previous EU board I did post it on another forum. Now in the new combined forum it should be here in its proper place:
Click here to Download
How to use:
It has two main pages, one for heroes and one for villains, each with room for 12 characters. On this page you only need to write your chars name and it is on this page you will see how many badges of a fixed total you have.
The rest of the pages just need their "X" in their proper Cell.
There are a few main categories on the Main page, like Achivements.
Achivements have several sub categories, like Defeat, events etc...
The reason for this that if I should give each subcategory (like in the game) their own cell on the main page...
It would be a very cloggy page imo.
Invention badges:
The only exemp to the rule of mark a cell with an X is the Achivements-Invention (Achivement (is one of the main pages) Invention (is the subgroup of badges there)) so that part of the sheet is protected and cannot be filled out. As it is dependent upon what you do in "Shortcut to InventionProgress" that you find on your main page.
You see I like to know just how many inventions I have made of the various categories. When I finally get a badge, I mark InventionProgress with the X and that X is automatically carried over to the right cell in Achivements-Invention page.
If you find this method not to your liking, just turn the protection bit off on (achivements - invention) the page and mark it with your X. We all are different
Else I try to update the excel sheet as much as I can but I am not a programmer. Sooo there are no macros, no functions that will automatically fill this sheet out for you. Everything must be done by you by clicking (or copy paste later).
I also made a little page in there to have knowledge about what on earth I have in the vault on various chars (saves me from going to the vault to check out the contents when I'm in WW/BM wondering "to buy or not to buy").
Do give it a try and bring comments, suggestions even help
Hope the Badge list will be helpful (even if you use herostats, glycerine or other lists)
I will continue as updates come to write about them here. The link above will always contain the newest version.
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When the event started the first place on Union (that I was a part of) the Banner event came was the Hollows. Now, even then, due to my experience on test I began coordinating the event.
Just confounded by players inability to you know.. actually read (or think of others).
Some headed my words but those who thought me, mine and moi did not (pity i never got their names).
Result, as a badger it took me three events (with one being the croatoa zone crash) to get the new badges for my main badger. (rawr).
Guess I did get a lot of training in coordinating. Cause in every other event i've been on since then its... almost the "listen up this is the plan... (tell them) is this ok?" Well not in those words, but meaning...
But even then there are players that do not get badgesMostly due to some not listening and attacking the Aspect with debuffs (as that is needed... not).
On another note. Had an early blast yesterday, logged on before I went to work and saw that there was a banner event on vills. We where not able to complete it as we began with a handful, but we did get to banner 3 (one team). Then we saw it happening in Sharkhead and wanted to give it another go, being a full team of 8.
It was one of the most enjoyable ones I did. 8 villains working in harmony and defeating the Banners and the Aspect (with 2 or 3 min to spare). Aaah, it felt good -
WW loved the minigame.
I was a little concerned at test (just rehash of old critters) and expected to see lots of Eochai's. I was very pleased to see that the Aspect was not only Eochai, but did turn into a big CoT Ghost aswell. (phew)
Now that I know the backstory then Good Job WarWitch (more more), just wonder what you can do with more of the team behind you... *wink*
The banner art looked very good, the badge art looked so good, that I did expect to fight new groups of enemies.
Still have got to read up on the info about the event (Been busy coordinating as many people to one banner at the time for more fun for everyone participating. But people are people (aka some thinks "lets not listen"))
But so far, its been a blast. Another comment though is that in EU time the Banners seems to spawn rarely until 6pm, then it can be several at one time.
Not sure anything should be done about that at the moment.
Still unsure on what triggers the banner event (heard it was giving halloween salvage to the witch, but that means both zombies and banners will be able to be possible to trigger outside halloween?) -
Quote:I agree that would be nice, but the EU server needs abit more of a fixup before we get lots of open missions where 50-100 people participate.My request for Going Rogue:
Lots of raids that work like this please!
You may know that we on Union during the Halloween event suddenly found ourselves in a crashed zone. We where around those numbers fighting the 3'd banner. We all went mapservered and could not log in to our character while the timer was going (but we could log in to another alt).
With that many people in all the 4 events i participated on we had not only to beat the banner and the timer, but we had to face the lagmonster, mr Map Servered and Ms Rubberbanding.
Now please more minigames like the Halloween event(but please continue on the job for better stability on the EU servers)
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Not yet up for you? We've had Halloween event on Eu servers a few hours now (Ofc, gotten fights with the lagmonster and mr Map-Server... but...
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Edit to my problem.
I''ll say one thing, the Gm's where quick to contact me.
Ofc, After the Croatoa incident there came another Banner event in IP, and I got the badges there. Even time enough for me to relog to another char and do the event on her for the badges.
But... Union (and i suspect most of the Eu servers) suffers from serious map-servers problems, rubberbanding and lag, with many players in the same zone. The Croatoa incident just showed that we managed to crash that zone.
And No its not my computer or my connection (I got a pretty beefed up pc and very good line).
The problem lies close to the Servers I'm afraid. Specially since the Croatoa happened to every player that participated in Halloween event (and anyone unfortunate doing Trick or treating in Croatoa, or chatting there at the time). -
Finally we got a message of "Supernatural .." happening in Croatoa. We all rushed there (we all waited for it). We get 2 banners down, fight the 3'd and everyone gets mapservered.
For some time we are not able (until event is over) to relog into our chars as we get two messages. Account still logged in and when clicking our chars. "Character is still logging out".
Then when we do get back in I find that the one badge (Monster Masher from the Red banner) and the Accolade has been removed from my recent badge list. We have waited around an hour for the event and we are rewarded by a mapserver with badges that are deleted?
Its petitioned, and I hope I get those two badges back. I got more characters to do the event on... Hope for no more moments like this.
Please Feed the hamsters and give us our badges
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Quote:Well to that question, Rularuu is prisoned. By his own mind or... by the Dream Doctors sacrifice? By removing some of his "own" (slicing it off), could this perhaps be the counterpart he is referring to?Hmmm... that's an interesting corralary, given recent Canon Fodder:
Edit: And what does the Dream Doctor mean by saying the Rularuu is his "counterpart?" Are they contractually tied to each other? Is Rularuu part of the Dream Doctor? Or are they different version of the same being from different dimensions? Are we talking about Counterpart Theory? Is Rularuu really a Dream Doctor from another dimension, but empowered by devoured dimensions?
That part of the Doctor through the powers of dream is what keeps Rularuu unsure on things, locking him in.
I doubt Rularuu is a counterpart like hero/villain from another dimension. But then.. i'd love to see more info about the shard -
That is good news GG.
So it got changed from the first test... with how many minutes? -
Thank you for the info.
So nothing was done with the timer? ... riight.
How about the scaling towards the players in vicinity of the banners.
(looking at the Devs)
As in... Lets say a few teams of level 13 max (no level above) find themselves alone in Atlas park and the Banners appear. Will they have, in principle, a chance of defeating all them forces and the banners... before the timer goes out?
Cause from the first test I remember with Avatea on Eu test to take the banners down in time... as level 50 with travel powers.
If not this banner-minigame seems to only be for the high levels, and the low levels are bound to be just ToT'ing. (Yes they can be supersidekicked... but they still retain the powers they have at their proper level, so not being a PB or Shade or vet with travelpower at lvl 6... = lots of running and you may not get there in time by yourselves)
Now the event is not going to be too easy, but I soo hope that atleast the banners will be scaled to the level of players in vicinity or something.