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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction

Well then I guess you're not one of the people the OP was referring to, since it would have been immersion breaking for you to run from him.

This is assuming that it's not immersion-breaking for you to run around collecting radioactive rocks so you can release a minion of a world-devouring entity upon your unsuspecting foes.

Originally Posted by Eva Destruction

So if you're running through Founders Falls and a sniper takes a pot-shot at you, you hunt him down and, er, arrest him, right?

Batman has to beat up the new villain because he's probably somehow relevant to the story. Your villain who just attacked me in Bloody Bay is not.

Originally Posted by Sister_Twelve

I'm not exactly sure how that is supposed to be a response to what I posted. I don't have anything against pvp in general. In fact in other games, I've successfully climbed several pvp ladders. I don't have any conceptual beef with fighting against other players. I've played my share of CoD and fighter games.

I have a problem with pvp in this game because it doesn't make any conceptual sense to engage in the activity if you believe in immersive roleplay at all.

Why would any of my characters waste their time fighting Lord Hodge Podge07 if they are in the midst of stopping a plot by Nemesis or by Recluse? Once again, just as a reminder:

"I don't know who you are. I don't know what your crimes are. I don't even know if you really committed crimes."

Until this game figures out a way to mechanically reconcile those things and make me understand why you are a threat and not just a wanna-be who is trying to build a rep by attacking me out of the blue, I have no interest in fighting you.

Originally Posted by InfamousBrad

What "my notion"? I didn't design the game. I didn't make the rules.

When they designed City of Villains and created the Bloody Bay zone, they put a valuable temp power mission in that zone specifically to create an incentive for casual PvP; that much is obvious, implicit in the design. Yes, you can have a temp power that gives you an elite boss level pet (for crying out loud!). No, you don't need it; it's not like they made the other content any harder when they introduced Shivan Shards. But yes, it does make it easier to solo elite bosses and such. If you want to do that, you can only do so if you expose yourself to the risk of fighting a player from the other side. Don't want that? Do without Shivans. That's how the game is designed.

Now yes, by only doing your Shivan runs during seriously slow times, or on empty servers, you can maximize your chance of completing the mission without having to see another player. And yes, if you suck at PvP and hate PvP that much, I can see why you'd want to. But if your plan to do so fails, you have two choices: run away, or fight. Running away just wastes your time. No, really; it is even slower than losing a fight, and absolutely guarantees that you don't get the Shivan Shard temp power. But if you turn and fight, and lose, you lost nothing. If you turn and fight and win, all it cost you is 15 or so seconds' delay before you get your Shivan Shard, and you get paid back for that 15 seconds delay with a chance to win an extraordinarily valuable PvP enhancement recipe. So why wouldn't you?

You wouldn't because you hate PvP? Look, you decided to PvP when you ignored the loud, shouting, blaring, flashing PvP alert siren. The decision to not PvP should have been made at that point; that's the way the game is set up, the way it's designed. After that, the only remaining decision is not whether to PvP or not, it's whether to try, succeed or fail, or to surrender and run away. I'm not asking why people would avoid Bloody Bay; I'm asking why, when confronted with a visibly obviously pathetically weak opponent, one no more dangerous to them than a +1 minion (because in both of the examples in the original posting, that is all I was, really, to them), they'd choose that moment to decide that they didn't want to PvP?

Somebody brought up ERP. Unfair comparison, because I can give reasons why I don't think ERP is fun. But even if I accept the comparison, this would be like going into Pocket D during an announced ERP event, walking up to a crowd of people at the event, and then running away and fleeing Pocket D as soon as they typed something to you. Why would you do that?

Originally Posted by LunarEclipse

Er. Me.

Becuase frankly, A) While I can upgrade individual compoents within my PC (and do), actually building one from scratch would make my head spin. B) I don't have the TIME to do that sort of shopping and assembly, and 3) Becuase well, it's a helluva lot easier.
As a result, I'm not exactly willing to drop another couple hundred bucks to pick up a 64-bit OS when my current one seems to run just fine for pretty much everythign I chuck at it.


...there's a strange undercurrent of elitism running through certain members of this thread: "Ultra mode should only be for teh hardcorez gamerz who have loads of cash to spend on their system to keep it bleeding edge"...which frankly, isn't good business for Paragon, 'cause that is NOT where the majority of PC gamers are.

I'm hoping my vid card can support most of the innovations, but we'll see. i may yet need to upgrade.

Originally Posted by Mr. NoPants

What happened to you birthday thread?

Originally Posted by Satanic_Hamster

You know Wrath was a dude, right?

Originally Posted by Soulwind

I'm going from memory only here (I don't have access at the moment), but I think you're choices are the belly shirts or the long-un-tucked-in shirt that only shows a sliver of midriff.

I don't think there's any specifically 1/2-shirt like you seem to be looking for.