Infernus_Hades

Or how about they just make shards/threads the same and make them available through regular play.

Unlock it with a single Baf or Lamda run and then earn as you play nornally.

Bill, I feel the same way - if they steal the fun out of the game I am gone.

I hope they will find a way to open the content not close it behind a farm mentality.

Mouse Traps.

Leo do you know what Zen is?

If you have ever read the book Zen in the Martial Arts, Joe Hyams recounts a time when he was late for a lesson with the legendary Bruce Lee - Bruce asked why he was late? Joe explained he had a person call and wanted to discuss a possible movie deal (Joe is a Producer - Made the series Kung Fu). The person is unpleasant and so Joe was not only late but also a bit angry.

Bruce asked does this person make you a better person or a worse one? A happier person or an angry one?

Bruce then explained something very profound. You only have so many hours in your day, who you spend them with and why should be weighed carefully.

To hold these friends in his hands and view his time with them as precious enough for him to play a game with them is his choice. I applaud his loyalty and care for his friends. If as he plays he makes new friends this is good as well - however not required.

What this has become is you have a player on one side who is used to farming. They did it in other MMo's and so now it doesn't bother them to do it again.

Contrast that with the person who plays THIS MMO because we never had to grind. I just played the game, made characters leveled some to 50 - most times deleted them at 50 and sold the stuff.

Now you block me from further rewards, levels and powers because I refuse to farm.

This is entirely unacceptable. There is a LOT of things for level 50 characters to do and using the BAF or Lambda as a simple gate - do it once to open the stuff and then get my threads, merit or whatever randomass currency of the week is decided upon through doing WHAT I WANT TO - is how this game has been played for 7 years.

Hell, add it to the reward table for the WTF and I would be happy. This is what people are saying and wanting - you let me unlock it - fine - then let ME choose how I get the shiney - don't force me to farm a Dev approved farm.

We have a game that has a STATIC subscriber base of about 100,000 give or take each month.

We have a game which has NEVER in 7 years had this style of grind for a reward.

I will NOT become a farmer for a shiney. I understand his friend - the one who has been here since the beginning and he sees the game he loved take a turn into a style of play he loathes.

I am completely ignoring this "content" however do you think there will be MORE such "content"? I do indeed and it causes me great irritation when the so called "best community" in the world attacks a player who finds a completely new style of play after 7 years - not desirable.

If you wanted to do a Hamidon raid you could and get a shiney little boost - but it was small. If I wanted to do a sewer trial I got a similar reward. Small but useful. Now if you wish to ignore the farming lifestyle it is NOT a small boost - it is 3 levels in boost and potentially a gated content block. It is Permanent pets, permanent AoE attack powers and more coming. We have TF's now that if you do not have an Alpha slot reduces you to -8. What happens in the future if you don't climb on the hamster wheel?

This is the most foolish ill advised change to this game since before ED. The loss of customers this will cause cannot just be absorbed. The players love the game they have played for all this time and now the Devs are making it into WoW or some other game that was NOT played the way City of Heroes was.

I read these threads and more and more I see the people fail to follow things thru in a logical manner.

1. Are we likely to see MORE different currencies making both shards and threads less attractive in future content?

2. Are we likely to see Content where not having the boosted attributes makes you undesirable to a team? You know where if you don't have it you compete at -8 or something.

3. These rewards will possibly be required to get still other rewards later?

4. if a hamster in a ball style of play appears a successful model will we get MORE of it?

This is not in my opinion a good direction for a 7 year old game to take.

But you see a lot of players are already saying - I am not a hamster and I won't run on your wheel.

I refuse to grind the same nonsense and farm, farm, farm. You see people doing 6-10 trials a DAY - how long will they do that?

You think I am going to farm for all of my level 50's? I think the new style of "reward" will be the thing that makes me walk away from this game after so long. I am ignoring it for now but if this direction continues - I will not.

Test rat - ignore the new trials.

Seriously, I will not be doing them because all they did was instead of remembering who their customers are and what we do in our game - they made a farmers paradise.


I have said it before and this is my last time of saying it - make all the Incarnate currency SHARDS. The narrow path to unlocking 3 of the 4 slots is a joke. For the Alpha - I have a weekly TF, I have normal missions and I have a Gate to pass.

The BAF and Lambda should have been a GATE - not a farm. I seriously consider the Devs to have made an epic blunder and trying to jam a Raid style down our throat will cause players to leave.

Let's forget end game farming, power expansions, game balance and even the breast size slider - how about you Dev's help me with something I have wanted since the game started, I can invite my own characters into my own Super Group.

I mean it has been 7 years and you have been busy. I mean layoff nerfing Regen for an issue and let's allow either Email or logged off invites to your own account characters.

I have not run this yet but look forward to it.

I have zero interest in farming and so the further incarnate slots are a waste of time to me. Running a couple of new TF's sounds good.

Some even different advice:

This is not fun to me.

I won't be playing it. This is now no different from the PvP destruction brought to the game in Issue 13.

They take what was FUN and now are warping it into FARMING. If you have to run the same stupid TF 10-20 times to get a reward - it is FARMING. Hell, why not just make a Dev sponsored Fire Farm and make you have to run it 50 times in a row to get the brass ring.

Recall CASUAL players?

Well I have zero desire to play the loot driven nonsense - even worse instead of a set reward - it is RANDOM. Feel lucky punk? We I don't - I have been playing 7 years and have had 4 purple drops.

I am very disappointed in the direction the game has taken.

Can we get an in game computer system to now keep track of our rewards?

Influence
Infamy
Information
Salvage
Recipes
IO's
SO's
DO's
TO's
Merits
Hero Merits
Threads
Uncommons
Purples
PVP drops
Rares
Very Rare

Well, I guess we had to get rares eventually so we could be dupin em.

I am seriously for the first time in many years doubting whether I care to play this game any longer. These rewards "tables" are becoming ridiculous. How many types of rewards do you have to keep inventing?

The cheese is becoming far less tasty lately.

So we are now over 5 hours and nothing, last time over 6 hours and the time before that 5 hours, do we sense a trend?

So are we having the 5 hour break today and a 6 hour one on Thursday?

I have had this happen twice now but it was my emails that were deleted. I hope you get it fix. I have now lost 8 recipes and 30 million influence and support has not recovered it.

I really hope you have more luck than I did.

Welcome to Paragon City.

Heroes, Villains and Heels we got 'em all but more Heroes on the whole.

Arcanaville you made my point for me

I hear so many people tell me Fire tanks are great and I never die on mine and blah, blah, blah. I was with one of those the other night - I was on my 42 fire tank (over a billion spent so far + normal rewards cashed in) and they were saying I tank the ITF just fine (they were 50+1)!

I said not me in 2 runs I have died 9 times - they said your build is bad. I did not argue - I just decided to wait and see. Guess, what? I died LESS than they did and I was the Primary Alpha tank. I only died 2 times and once to be fair was a Self Destruct + Rise to Battle self nuke during an ambush.

Yes, I taunt and move and try to not just belly up and fight or the Romans just chop you down. I don't have Defense debuff resistance - so 2 or 3 Romans hit me and all my defense is gone. This is a fact, I am realistic and see that my tank if they could access defense debuff resistance could be a solid tank - without it I am at the whims of a couple of swords or other debuffs to floor me.

I hear the I farm the wall stuff too - I will say it again - my Fire/Dark corr is a better tank in almost every case than my Fire Tank. -To hit is nearly as good as an armor set as most tanks get as it basically equals defense. I then have the Resistance armor from Ghost widow because - I don't get hit and when I do I have an awesome self heal that almost never misses and resistance at near cap levels that means when I farm the wall I can herd 3 large roman groups safely.

On a fire/dark corr i can and have defeated the crystal spawn and the resulting ambush for an 8 man team SOLO. I can walk up the road towards Rommie and take one side SOLO. I can and have cleared the towers in an ITF SOLO. My fire tank can't do this. I want to see the exact build and I would love to see a gameplay video.

If you doubt me on ANY of these claims I would be more than happy to show you.

1. Make it possible for ALL members of the team to read the mission information and conversations with NPC's

2. Trains/Portals to ALL locations

That's all I have for now.

You see and this is why I will never PvP under this system.

You are going to have to teach players how to play a game they have been playing? Yes, it is as bad as it sounds.

Have you seen the Arcana posts of how PvP works? You literally would require a degree in math to work out what is happening and why.

Excuse me what does a level 50 minion con as to a 50 +1?

Yes that makes you a 51.

Electric/Cold Controller and an Electric/Spines Scrapper.

Endless endurance and the Ice shields along with the debuffs make this an amazing pair.

Freakshow.

Who else has the Freak-olympics?

I would love an ancient Egyptian group, hmmmm maybe AE time.