Hercules

Originally Posted by Firewasp

I haven't played my 43 Fire/Kin in years (after ED and slotted with standard IO's) and thought I would use him to farm some. I remember being able to blow through big groups very fast. Now it's hard to stay awake waiting. What happened?

Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm

WHOAH. Controllers get WATER SPOUT. That power is so awesome. It only does Kup and does great damage. I want to roll a */Storm controller now . Tornado + Waterspout ftw.

Originally Posted by Circuit_Boy

Yeah, but they do that anyway.

Also, Hercules, I think the reason you're having to put down Creepers is to ensure the -KB actually hits. Roots has a 0.9 Accuracy Modifier, meaning you need to make sure you've got at least two SO's worth (+66%) Accuracy slotted in it to make sure it hits all the targets. If it misses, the -KB also misses, and the foes it misses will get flung by the Tornado.

I'm 99.999% sure it only needs one application, though you do need to reapply it before the -KB wears off, if foes are still standing. I've been using the tactic for a very long time.

Originally Posted by TeChameleon

Gotta say, Herc, I'm in agreement with Salty and CB here- Tornado is an integral part of my attack chain on my Plant/Stormie, and I've also used it on the Cimeroran Wall, with the usual good results.

... if you're interested, my usual attack chain is Carrion Creepers-Seeds of Confusion-Roots-Freezing Rain-Tornado-Lightning Storm-Roots/Whatever's Needed. It makes an impressive mess :3

One possibility as to your troubles on the Cim Wall- it may be that some of the Romans got off their Shout of Command buffs, neutralizing your Roots.

Originally Posted by saltyhero13

@Hercules

What are you specifically trying to get out of IOs? Does you toon have any problem areas that you are trying to mitigate?

Originally Posted by TeChameleon

I don't think so, Hercules. And Mezzo, the 192% recharge is a bit of an artefact of how Mid's displays some procs- specifically, the chance-for-recharge one. If you don't count that, it only has 92% global recharge with Hasten running.

Originally Posted by Minotaur

Yes they're always on, any power will do.


The veteran sprints take travel sets but not Universal travel sets to prevent exactly this.

Why are you using this for KB protection on a scrapper, the scrapper has perfectly good KB protection in active defence. You don't need it (although the set bonus is worth having).

Generally 4 points of KB protection is enough on a squishy for most purposes, although some things do more. I'd aim at 8 on a scrapper. Very few things do 8-12, so I'd slot either 2 or 4 IOs on a tank.

Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex

The odds of completely missing a group of enemies are better than you might think since the power checks Defense only once per enemy. If the enemy is hit by the initial strike, it suffers DoT that is completely random and unaffected by Defense.

The lowest possible odds you can get for a miss on the initial die roll are as follows:

One enemy missed - ~1 in 20
Two enemies missed - ~1 in 40
Three enemies missed - ~1 in 80
Four enemies missed - ~1 in 160
Five enemies missed - ~1 in 320

The reason these odds are "about 1 in 20" instead of absolutely is it is possible to hit with the intial die and then miss all 24 independant DoT checks. The odds of this happening are ridiculously slim, and even if it does the secondary effects still apply.

Anyway, even at its very best, Hail of Bullets will miss a group of 5 targets about once every 320-ish uses. The power recharges in about one minute when slotted, so if you play a lot it will miss a group of 5 about every 5 or 6 hours. This is just the best case scenario though; if the enemy has some extra Defense it will miss far more frequently.

Note that these are actually the same odds that any AoE would miss if the chance to hit was capped.