How is Ice/Ice?


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Hi there,

Just wondering how this AT fairs for a solo player? How is the DPS?

Thanks!


 

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DPS is a bit low... the set's focus is on holds and slows. The "sniper" attack has mediocre damage and is a hold ... fairly useless IMO.

The tier 9 is devastating, but on an incredibly long timer. If you like a blaster set that is somewhat controllerish, this is the set to get.


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Ice/Ice isn't bad. Though an Ice/Elec blappper is better.

If you want a controllerish blaster Sonic/Ice/Leviathan is the way to go. No blaster more controllerish out there.


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Since the useful answers have already been given...


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How is Ice/Ice?
Kinda vanilla.


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[QUOTE=Hercules;3182725]DPS is a bit low... the set's focus is on holds and slows. The "sniper" attack has mediocre damage and is a hold ... fairly useless IMO./QUOTE]

Well, thats because its not a snipe, its a hold with a little damage tacked on. Generally, snipes aren't very good anyways, so its not a big loss.

Ice has great single target damage, and OK, but not great, AoE.


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Pros-
Large Amounts of holds. Has 3 single target holds available, 4 if you count the Epic.

Large Amounts of softcontrol. Has multiple slow effects, including Ice Storm, and Shiver. In addition, has Ice Patch for additional soft control. Frozen Aura is a fairly lackluster power, but it does bring an AoE Sleep.

High single target damage. Ice Bolt, Ice Blast, Bitter Ice Blast and Ice Sword is a very, very good single target damage chain.

Cons-

Medicore AoE damage. Frostbreath isn't a terrible Cone, but it's not that great either. Its primarily AoE damage is from Ice Storm, which is on a long timer, and is all DoT.

High Endurance Costs. Ice can very quickly drain your endurance bar, and /Ice Manipulation has no endurance management tools.


 

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Originally Posted by Miladys_Knight View Post
If you want a controllerish blaster Sonic/Ice/Leviathan is the way to go. No blaster more controllerish out there.
I'd be tempted to say that Elec/Elec/Elec's a bit better, if at least a close second. Short Circuit + Power Sink will shut down nearly everything with the right SOs, and anything left standing can be chain held with one of your three Mag 3s.


 

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I'd be tempted to say that Elec/Elec/Elec's a bit better, if at least a close second. Short Circuit + Power Sink will shut down nearly everything with the right SOs, and anything left standing can be chain held with one of your three Mag 3s.
I still haven't tried an Ice/Ice character, but I have to admit I get charged up any time someone wants to talk about the awesomeness that is Elec/Elec/Elec!!! The official BlapTroller!!

But yeah... I have to admit, I have this terrible compulsion when I read this thread title to say something similar as this:
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Since the useful answers have already been given...


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Kinda vanilla.


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Except my compulsion was:

... Baby baby.


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Ice/ice is very NOISY.

My ex only ever asked me to turn down the volume when playing two characters: an ice/ice blaster and a grav/kin controller. Both of which have since been deleted on account of the sounds driving ME crazy. The poor ice/ice blaster never even made it to SOs.


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I'd be tempted to say that Elec/Elec/Elec's a bit better, if at least a close second. Short Circuit + Power Sink will shut down nearly everything with the right SOs, and anything left standing can be chain held with one of your three Mag 3s.
The Sonic/Ice/Leviathan offers:

Siren's + Frozen Aura = Mag 5 AoE sleep (perma out of the box and easily stackable to mag 7)
2 applications of Shiver allow you to -rech and -move cap the spawn (without waking them up)
4 single target mezzes, 1 ranged mag 3 stun, 2 - mag 3 melee holds (easy to use on slept targets), 1 mag 3 ranged hold.
An AoE KB cone (for positioning and mitigation)
An AoE immob.
Single target and AoE resistance debuffs.

And all at blaster levels of damage.


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Originally Posted by Verren View Post
Hi there,

Just wondering how this AT fairs for a solo player? How is the DPS?

Thanks!
I solo fine on mine. It's easily one of my favorite builds, period. I've been on teams and literally played the role of a controller.


 

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My two favorite ATs are Blasters and Dominators. Both play in a very similar manner.

Ice/Ice is the combo to use if you want your Blaster to play just a little bit more like a Dom, for all the reasons candlestick listed. You could do a lot worse.

[My main bluesider is an El/El/El. Shockingly good CC and blaps. ]


 

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Has 3 single target holds available, 4 if you count the Epic.
Leviathan Mastery has two holds.


 

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I find my ice/ice blaster to be very enjoyable. I'm not sure why others saying its not that good.
Like some have mentioned you can make him play similar to a controller but have more damage power.
I think it depends on what your wanting to do.
When I team with mine we are pretty much succesful in whatever we are trying to do. Plus I have hibernate which allows me to sometimes be cocky and tease that i'm a tank if my team gets a suprise ambush and starts dying. LAST ONE ALIVE!!!
With my toon I have actually experience farming with him because I try to stay away from the way too common fire/kin farm builds.
Of course he doesn't even compare to farm builds. But I find that when I farm BM on +2x6 without bosses, he's surprisingly quick. I don't think he's like fall asleep slow. He's only slow if you are comparing him to the fire/kins or spine/fires god of farm builds.
I have in the past for fun raced him on bm farm against some friends that are fire/kins.
We count all the mobs, split in half and see what happens. When I do that I'm usually about halfway plus or minus a few groups when he's done.
So take that for what you want.
Mine is capped on ranged defense so I use fly in my toon.