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Okay after a brief read on your response to one other's ill/rad, Local Man I took notice to replace my rezzing power with a group holding power since most do have a rez type of a power.
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Hello Local man and thank you. Indeed you are right so I put forth to make it a worthy build planning to use. I haven't much experience with the build type unlike my fire/kin which i fully understand how to use very well, this build type has a much different play-style.
Here it is:
[*]18% DamageBuff(Lethal)
[*]18% DamageBuff(Fire)
[*]18% DamageBuff(Cold)
[*]18% DamageBuff(Energy)
[*]18% DamageBuff(Negative)
[*]18% DamageBuff(Toxic)
[*]18% DamageBuff(Psionic)
[*]2.813% Defense(Energy)
[*]2.813% Defense(Negative)
[*]5.625% Defense(Ranged)
[*]51% Enhancement(Accuracy)
[*]8% Enhancement(Heal)
[*]4% Enhancement(Confused)
[*]2.75% Enhancement(Terrorized)
[*]106.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
[*]5% FlySpeed
[*]106.82 HP (10.5%) HitPoints
[*]5% JumpHeight
[*]5% JumpSpeed
[*]Knockback (Mag -8)
[*]Knockup (Mag -8)
[*]MezResist(Confused) 5%
[*]MezResist(Held) 5%
[*]MezResist(Immobilize) 5%
[*]MezResist(Sleep) 7.2%
[*]MezResist(Stun) 5%
[*]MezResist(Terrorized) 9.4%
[*]10.5% (0.175 End/sec) Recovery
[*]56% (2.378 HP/sec) Regeneration
[*]20% Resistance(Smashing)
[*]20% Resistance(Lethal)
[*]25.04% Resistance(Fire)
[*]25.04% Resistance(Cold)
[*]22.52% Resistance(Energy)
[*]22.52% Resistance(Negative)
[*]20% Resistance(Toxic)
[*]20% Resistance(Psionic)
[*]10% RunSpeed[/list]
Code:I think I do not need much KB protection but I've tried tweaken Hasten to perma as best because of what you've said does make plenty od sense. After I've established much playing time with it, I may then later on tweak whats missing or even respec out of useless powers or such. But I will check your post on the ill/rad builds very soon.| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1622;754;1508;HEX;| |78DAA594594F135114C7EF74B176816E547668691128766883262E0F26E012A4850| |6094F421DDB01260E9DDA25D1373F804F9AE8932212F533183F81BE88AF82CB1750| |704B7CABE79E73DB62E6D109FC7F93FF3DF72C973B646E5FF03076F73C937CD3BA5| |2A9E4A68D62B56CE8BA5AB66794352D1FB86C18C5F0E2BA5ADEA855C253354D2F38| |1863D1565C638B3CA3EBB58A66141B46E450CC546D7555C62C8A9E5B500A9A52854| |8FF4C112CB558951B2FAEAC0199AE9654B5E0C6D74BBAB6B65E0DE0FBA2AAAB25A3| |5CC5BD5EB4D2AA5250CB9575ADD471B1A4E5E52C6F40CBE7324AA5AA96EF7441ABA| |7E0775362E2A9DB58C2C2588AB5CB889109442A494821B4C3E1B312B78EA411AE0C| |62628E308FD8029544B8B48C19E22B841C22719DA0206E42AC55845B29BB87B27B2| |8FB18658F53F621386F3BA6AF5BECE30C9B21B808DBB0E8A000ABC3877B8E060841| |C44008E184444EAA2B39C98AED6147C3B0E2A615E68E635237586D94546AFB4027B| |68BD800D72BDAF7CEA2E54B133288D81C9DEC3CE23984FB45B87F1FADC001E13BA2| |E307E137D60D40DDA0A81B8CA01523046125442BB6D013DC736C93F014D1B545784| |6F920BC53CCD449D3BE00ED16AD74EFA1D5F391F00911F98C887E4118A0BD22BC97| |2AF551A53EAA34409506B6695E28D82F0AF6D321BE840C8364D90769F630CD1EA6D| |9C3347BE427E117A204BB8668976588FEC4D17F700B02864563C36F70CFF1B78477| |841DEAA807C377E0B28D8AFB31EAA71B460732E64624E89ABC87B87111371E47EB4| |48290244C22FC30A82CEE914C8926FE303E7C14569262254997264597A6CFD6FCA2| |E0071E963639595BF33362123AFDAD98FF7A5E791A799C0B2ED0452E592E4B5CAE7| |159E6B2C245E172834B9E4BFD7573B7F7346FE80C97B35CCE7109F940EEF14807FF| |86DC5C3C5CDAB8B473F172F1710972E9E1F2984BDDE96BFE2FA87F851C927478FE6| |F2667BFE548D2129EBDED0A60841DB456ACD27D3C74CB03C24384ED1122693AF7B8| |C949999C932667D2E4B4CEFB2F669748D2| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Hello everyone. I've searched the post for ideas on what a good ill/therm build would look like. So far haven't had much luck and if I do look further back in the later post, I can imagine those builds (if any) would be out dated due to the new inherited Fitness Power Pool. I've been trying to tweak a build but it is difficult to start.
Can anyone suggest any ideas or better yet post a build on here? My goals with this toon is to be team friendly and too solo mishes. Ideas in mind for the build will include "Recall Friend". TP Foe (maybe) for solo purposes and of course, "Leadership". Also I was thinking on taking up on "Fly" as well. I don't think "Hasten" may be a requirment altho I have it on every other toon along with "Super Speed" and the combo of "Leaping Power Pool" as well.
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Quote:Well for beginners, the srach option will guarantee much more in ideas than one posting a build for your viewing. Indeed in the state of interest you have as a beginner, I suggest that you do roam this forum for related threads. Or, build one on Mid's and psote it for suggestions/ideas or aggreements.Originally Posted by GetsLifted
The Psi/Em blaster is now on its way. Thanks guys
Now, what would you guys suggest for this build? Taking out concealment was mentioned... What should I swap it out for?
Since you have metioned that price is of no concern, I will give you a helping hand on that 'Search' here: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=224820
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Quote:Well I can start with my $0.02 & 1/2 cents here. Teaming in PVP maybe your game style you may want to roll for PVP and since its a WP/SS Tanker, you probably most definitely want to roll with teams mostly other than try to solo with it. with a Tanker you must have TAUNT, most important!!! With WP, it is the second best Regen (blu-side) with some defense and resist. Plus the added recovery is a must have for a /SS as well so, its a good combo, maybe not the best but as a Teaming Tanker Tauntbot, it should do okay if built right. Okay you may know you should aim for additional global bonuses for regen & HP. Plus imo, I think you should aim more towards slotting taunt into attacks with a nice taunt-mag into it (let your team do the damage, buffing & etc). One of the few things about WP that don't like is the toggles drop when mez, they tend to mez easier than other Tanker primaries but that my oppinion. My builds for tankers are very LOL so I won't even try to tweak one to post for you.Originally Posted by Character Creator
I have a Will/SS Tank, and I have his build more set to team play. I have really gotten into PVP lately and I want to respec him to a PVP build. Can someone please give me some help on a good Will/SS PVP build?
Just my 2 & 1/2 cents on it.
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Quote:So this a good thing ... yes?Originally Posted by _Lith_
You remind me of Dark Lord
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Quote:HOW SO???Originally Posted by Neeto
goon, your english is so wack!!
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Quote:LOL@DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZOriginally Posted by PC_guy
lol@tfing on freedom. lol@really doing anything other than pvp on freedom
1). Accolades? Some may feel ... well it is a requirment to better one's toon and so forth which comes with the effort to roll in the PVE community to get them. Now!!! With that said, do youuuuu actually want to roll a TF that may take double or tripple time to complete (noobish diversity of team talents like all defenders for a simple example)? NO! So therefore selecting players (AT's types too) to form a TF Team is nothing much shy of doing the same in PVP if you want to achieve your goal perfectly and funwise. Unless you just stand under the globe in Atlas and LOLOLOLOLOL all day and then PVP on Freedom.
Fortunatley while on Freedom, it doesn't take nearly as long to even FORM a TF Team becuase of its population for one.
2). If you want to be a winner, how else are you going to gain the influence/infamy required to enhance what is necessary for your PVP toon? Are you going to farm? Most likely you will so whenever you feeeeeeeeeel like you once again want to give your $0.02, make sure its worth it because it is PVE that starts if off.
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Well my $0.02 worth!!!
When we all had those lovely free Sever Transfers last February, I took a chance and trasnfered my Blaster to Virtue from Freedom to see. Just to take a peep on how the PVP is on Virtue. Well after a few days, I wasn't impress with the numbers in RV zone. One night it seemed there was a PVP VG group that I stumbeld across and they were ... well I cannot say bad nor good because I was like their only target of the zone. So I happily transfered my Blaster back to Freedom recently after.
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Okay after reviewing powers of such secondary builds, I think what I really want is an ill/cold troller. I may have made a mistake with the ILL/Therm to do what I've mentioned in the beginnin of this post. 0.o It seems that the debuffing potential is greater on Cold Domination for Controllers.
Darn ... Oh well I may tweak this build for better support than to solo with such as duels. -
Hello Mr Liberty
You have a very impressive build. I like it and am confident that it will work. But I have one question though, why not take "Super Invisible"? Or is that a noobish question? -
Okay I am switching it up for an ill/therm troller. I am a master of a fire/kin troller but this, THIS is most definitely a different type of troller that requires an entirely different playstyle.
I've been trying to tweak this build but I get caught up in choosing what is "a must have and whats skipable" for PVP content.
I would like to be able to solo with it for duel's but then I really want to add great team support as well. I thought that an ill/therm would be ideal for the job and have one at lvl 50. I would like to rip apart a toon (Brute, Tanker or Scrapper) on a duel but it seems its lacking damage potential. Maybe I was wrong with the troller type, maybe not but this is what I've made atm.
Please critique harshly if so to be.
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[*]16% DamageBuff(Lethal)
[*]16% DamageBuff(Fire)
[*]16% DamageBuff(Cold)
[*]16% DamageBuff(Energy)
[*]16% DamageBuff(Negative)
[*]16% DamageBuff(Toxic)
[*]16% DamageBuff(Psionic)
[*]1.88% Defense(Fire)
[*]1.88% Defense(Cold)
[*]1.25% Defense(Energy)
[*]1.25% Defense(Negative)
[*]2.5% Defense(Ranged)
[*]3.75% Defense(AoE)
[*]1.8% Max End
[*]2.75% Enhancement(Terrorized)
[*]10% Enhancement(Heal)
[*]83.8% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
[*]58% Enhancement(Accuracy)
[*]4% Enhancement(Confused)
[*]5% FlySpeed
[*]129.7 HP (12.8%) HitPoints
[*]5% JumpHeight
[*]5% JumpSpeed
[*]Knockback (Mag -12)
[*]Knockup (Mag -12)
[*]MezResist(Confused) 5%
[*]MezResist(Held) 5%
[*]MezResist(Immobilize) 5%
[*]MezResist(Sleep) 7.2%
[*]MezResist(Stun) 7.2%
[*]MezResist(Terrorized) 7.2%
[*]20% Perception
[*]10.5% (0.18 End/sec) Recovery
[*]64% (2.72 HP/sec) Regeneration
[*]3.78% Resistance(Fire)
[*]3.78% Resistance(Cold)
[*]2.52% Resistance(Energy)
[*]2.52% Resistance(Negative)
[*]5% RunSpeed
I Know it can use more -KB into it but, idk ... maybe I will retry to tweak it again with PVP IO's
All help/advice is very well appreciated in advance. Even if you think another troller/defender build type may be better at doing what I would like to do with it. -
Quote:YES! It is why I trasnfered all my toons (farming, PVP& TF toons) there (personally I farm which = to SG Base with goodies which = to SG Bins which = to "my precious posessions to my safe keepings). But that will all change when I've gained new firends to SGI + plus friends from previous server to join me on Freedom to Farm, TF's & PVP. Freedom has it ALLLLL. Teaming, PVP SG's & VG's, solo'ers (easy to pin point them out), much more to list but if you want action? [POOF] it is on Freedom. If you want a PVP team? [POOF] there it is. Never a dull moment on Freedom even for me at 4:am eastern time.Originally Posted by Pizon
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If you THINK you can PVP farm those that are in a PVP zone on Freedom (mainly RV) that are farming for ^*#*&&@! so you can get easy kills then you will be farmed. Enough said.
Ima make a Freedom Flag, LOL I love FREEDOM for freedom is NOT free, it is EARNED.
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Quote:This is very true.Originally Posted by Krytical
You'd get more mileage out of elec tanks simply because every other corruptor is a therm.
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Well, I am very ignorant (noobish) of the fight-klub and the rules or so forth they imply to perform their arena/pvp events. Although it is an interesting point about "the running" and so forth. The reason why is well, we all (experienced pvp'ers) know that we want to play a toon for the simple roll when we first start pvp'ing in a pvp/arena zone, ... nothing else but to kill, kill & kill, LOL. Me too but that gets boring when you have established that point and you feel to reach another level in the PVP environment. To get to the point, I would like to get things a bit started (nothing new that already exist) but just to get much more involved with what there is now interesting to me which is to find such players, teams (especially if they roll together alot) and SG's (ima blu-side player so VG's won't be necessary for me now probably when we go ROGUE, ... wait that will still be blu-side).
I want to roll a Tanker. But between the two Elec Armor & Invun, it may be a "Tye", I am not sure because I never played an Elec Armor Tanker but I hear some really good things about it. So I should have mentioned that in begin with of the posting but it will be a team oriented PVP toon (like Defenders, I don't think one can prosper alone with a Controller or Tanker on his/her ).
The decision is a toughy.
LOL Invun does look very GODLY, I LOVE IT!!!
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Quote:So an Elec Armor Tanker has better resistance against a Therm?Originally Posted by Krytical
You'd get more mileage out of elec tanks simply because every other corruptor is a therm.
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Quote:So darn true. All of my toons are transfered to Freedom. PVP is my thang and if I do PVE content, it's for farming, badges and such.Originally Posted by Neuronia
Freedom is 24-7.
You want zone activity, you got it.
You want random Arena scraps, you got it.
You want Fight Club at the train in RV, well...if the Virtuous Vanguard isn't around, you got it.
Usually tons of people in Pocket D for matches and kickball too.
Any time it took me 45 minutes to get a Tanker on "Champion Server" to join me in an AE farm just so he would quit after 3 awesomely fast runs to go help out his SG was the line for me. I had to leave my home server.
But to get to the point, it NEVER fails when I load up into RV. Either some Heroes are camping at base, base is empty because all is out in the mist of RV battle'en out, or the vills are camped. But always, ALWAYS never a dull moment in RV. NEVAAAAHHH!!!
I am loving it and probably one of the BEST decisions I've made to go there and I AM LOVING IT
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The PVP forum's I've searched for the answer to the question of which is the toughestamont the two to bring down in a wide PVP zone such as RV? There is a strong curiousity of why because I can see that elec armor offers a bit more survivable talents than invun but too, invun display the same potential.
Can anyone please help and discuss why either of them would be better than the other for PVP (mainly RV)?
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Yeah buddy, listen to all of these above of what they've mentioned. Fly on a melee toon? Fly is the no-go-to when you design your build for a scrapper, any scrapper that is. SS + SJ are prime PVP travel powers.
Advice: when ever you are looking at Mids to build a toon, look very deep within each and every detail per power such as damage, acc, recharge-time, mez type (which could be useful for PVP environment) activation time (it is said that longer animated powers may add more damage in PVP) and last but not least, the duration time of a power that will have an affect on per target. Some durations differ in magnitude per power between AT's for the same power both has access to get Like Defenders and Blasters which are good examples.
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Quote:So it will be replaced with a +perception IO on my Tactics then because I feel it may not be worthy as I thought it would be.Originally Posted by Punkture
I run this Proc on a couple different toons in Focused Accuracy or Tactics. As noted, fine to get the set bonus but it does not fire often enough to make a big difference. It is not five seconds out of every 15 I can promise you that.
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Quote:Deus is pretty much on point. See you will try out your new-to-pvp blaster and you WILL remember of WHY you have begun this post in begin with (although you want to roll a DP Blaster for PVP).Originally Posted by Deus
lol at this.
Here is the bottom line, no matter what blaster you pick, you will probably get some kills, eventually. If you want to be beast mode, go fire or psi. If you wanna be that guy that does something different, roll an Ice/Fire blaster that way you can figure out all the shortcuts from the hospital back into the action. DP has long animations which is why it is not optimal for blasters to use. If you're using a blaster you have to kite, and fire off youre attacks mid air so when you land you can jump again. You wont be able to do that with DP because of the seizure like animations. You will get as'd more than any other blaster. Stalkers usually go after tards first, and ur "unique" blaster is gonna fall in that category. When I'm using a stalker, once I get spiked by a psi, or fire blaster, I run, and move onto the next blaster.
What you will experince with this toon, "Dam, it is a great toon for PVE, why does it SUCK so much in PVP?" Well you will be chasen a ghost if you believe you can make it out to be a great Blasting Killer. However, thats when play styles comes in how it CAN be a viable build type. If you are NOT the mob rusher and determined to kill-off a selected foe regardless of the surivability to retreat after completing that specific task, then you may have a style to sitback and observe a fresh kill. That being said, there are secondaries that may assist your style with such like /Devices for an example. It can help you see stealthier foes and too have a power to cloak as well from foes (not by far as invisable like stalkers) but it can mellow you play style a bit to observe from a safe distance.
The con of /Device, it lacks a Build-up and it is a noticable difference w/out it. So is it a smart choice to roll a DP in PVP zones? Nope, is that guy right that says, "Psi & Fire Blasters are wayy over powered"? NO, but smarter, experience players KNOW that the smarter way to go is select a build within that AT frame that will work, that will get the job done. Psi and Fire has a better potential to tweak to get the job done than others. So IMO, DP is like a Sniper type animation which will require great skill to make work.
One has mentioned that long animations will get you AS'd, this is true. A great damaging power like TF (Total Focus) is mostly skipped because the longer animation will get you killed and while you are lying down face-matted, you will watch and hope the damage just dealt by hitting TF (which got you killed in the first place) will still HIT the lil-low-HP-foe you targetted but it does NOT because a dead toon does not inflict damage. I have witnessed this and it is WHY I do NOT have TF anymore. So DP for PVP is imo an interesting idea but after you have become not-so-new-to-pvp anymore to consider it.
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This is an interesting post. Here is an idea! Since we are going ROGUE, we will have access to both Hero And Villain Archetypes on both sides of the PVP zones. Here is the kicker .... allow all of the Pre-I13 issues of PVP to return in ROGUE. Reason why? Well there will be a balance between both sides and while everyone is HAPPY with the new content (ROGUE), even abliss will be with Pre-I13 issues. But allow the non-toggle drop when mezzed remain in the system as well. Drop "Travel Suppression"(except for the attacks of Melee Archetypes) and the DR really is a NO-Brainer but the neeeded brain to calculate the unnescessary differences in the details to make it an "Accurate" caculation by default or in other words, to be mathematical correct for so to say in speaking.
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This is an interesting post. Here is an idea! Since we are going ROGUE, we will have access to both Hero And Villain Archetypes on both sides of the PVP zones. Here is the kicker .... allow all of the Pre-I13 issues of PVP to return in ROGUE. Reason why? Well there will be a balance between both sides and while everyone is HAPPY with the new content (ROGUE), even abliss will be with Pre-I13 issues. But allow the non-toggle drop when mezzed remain in the system as well. Drop "Travel Suppression"(except for the attacks of Melee Archetypes) and the DR really is a NO-Brainer but the neeeded brain to calculate the unnescessary differences in the details to make it an "Accurate" caculation by default or in other words, to be mathematical correct for so to say in speaking.
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I agree to this post by Mac 1,000%
Endorse Here: X______Goon, 06/16/2010
The old PVP system had much, much more freedom. freedom to roam, freedom to heal, freedom to kill, freedom to escape, freedom to cage, freedom to get better at what ever you did or like doing to achieve what was necessary to win and/or support.
Now these restrictions is like a Shock-Collar. Its unexplainable of how it feels now to play in the PVP zones of any.
Examples of what it feels like to PVP now:[You have just popped a "Righteous Rage" you cannot proceed yet, 3 - 2 - 1, now you are free to excelerate movement towards your target]. [Wait, you have been blasted from behind, your movement has been suppressed, 3 - 2 - 1, now proceed], [Wait your travel suppression has been engaged again by popping a "Righteous Rage" because the previous one wore off while suppressed].LOL Is this the reason why "Slow's" do not work in PVP because Slowed + Suppression Travel would really SUCK. Now how is this balanced for the skilled-R A P E D ice/ and /ice AT's?
Archetypes are not Heroes and Villains anymore, they are merely slaves now trying to do the best with their ability. Some are lucky, some SUCKS and thats not fair at all. Ice blasters? I have pitty for those who worked hard for their accolades/enhancements so they can be just worthless. There are may others like Kin Defenders for an example that has a R.I.P headstone in PVP zones. There are many others as well. So those F.O.T.M toons in PVp still dance the same but thats even suppressed, LOL.
I think the best thing that happend among these ingenious-idealistic changes was that the toggles do NOT drop when mezzed which should have been implemented in begin with.
I must admit, this is probably the best ever mmo ... WAIT, It is most definitely the BEST mmo ever but if you (Developers) listen to your PVP'ers and actually played PVP much more often so you too can cry "please change it back to like it was before I-13" (Assuming the undeveloped-cryers were the reason for the change), I, 100% Guarantee the Devs will wittness a long, very long lasting successful hit from the PVP veterans and "new commer's" to PVP community.
Goon keeping it Gank-U-Ster -
Quote:Nahhhh, sorry I don't. Maybe you tell me the name of the toon you were on. Yeah whats the name of it?Originally Posted by Solistion
LOL@Psi/EM *Shoots rubber bullet at Goon* remember meh, yea yea you remember meh *High five goon*
Goon keeping it Gank-u-ster