HelinCarnate

On a maxed out build, many will already have 5 LoTG slotted and a stealth IO in their travel power. How exactly does this help in that case?



edit to add. I like potatoes.

So the issue can be solved by micro managing the team? Any brute or tank that asks others not to target through them is setting themsleves up to have everyone target through them out of spite for telling them how to play thier toons.

I have already posted what I do as a work around. I use just the low damage attacks until there is a hard target. This however leaves 2 attacks unused for the most part. TF I have skipped due to the DPA being higher on all my other attacks accept Barrage; and ET I don't bother with except for +2 bosses or higher.

And I never stated that it is a severe balance issue. All I am asking for is a change in the animation to ET to still keep it 2.67 seconds, but have the damage applied at the begining of the attack instead of the end.

If you are reading like you claim to be, you really need to work on your comprehension skills.

Dead by the time you get to it? Not normally. Dead in the following 3.3 seconds after I get to it? If not a boss, probably. In the 2.67 seconds after I get there? Maybe, but I end up doing tons of damage when only a medium amount is needed.

The whole spawn does not have to die in 3 seconds, just your target in order to screw things up for you.

And how do you know that the NPC is not being targeted by team mates? As a brute or tanker for some folks, you are their target and whatever you are targeting, they are targeting. On my EM, I run in hit WH, then mop up with gloom, and the tier 1-3 attacks. I have run into instances when I found the boss before I ran into the spawn. I then jumpped into the spawn and fired off ET. By the time ET animatied the bosses health bar was so low I would have done just as much damage to the boss and 0 damage to myself if I had just used Bone Smasher instead. Granted this was even level stuff or +1 so the bosses were a bit sqhishie cmpared to +2 and up. But after a while of dealing with this I changed my tactics to only really use ET and TF on hard targets. Since then I have felt much more productive on teams.

Remeber when you first got GFS or KO blow or Seismic Smash? And then you go to use that attack and BOOOM that little minion goes from full health to nothing in one shot. Then the anticipation builds up to the next time it is up and then WIFFFFF. Ok it happens.... then the next time it is up.... WIFFFF... Gah what a let down. Ok it is up again. WIFFFF... That is what TF and ET feel like on large teams all the time.

I didn't mean to imply forget taking the powers. I meant don't bother to use them unless you are up against hard targets while you are in large groups.

Rage helps all the time (-10 seconds). Footstomp is an aoe and you will hardly ever run into overkill issues with that power. Fault, well that is a great control power if you can fit it, and SM? Stone Mallet? Unless you mean Seismic Smash. In that case, due to the fast animation time you also hardly ever run into overkill. All those powers can be usefull just about all the time. Same with Lightning Rod and Thunder Strike. Even with the long animation on TS, it is an aoe so even if your intended target is downed before your animation is finished, you can still end up hitting other mobs. Not really any valid comparisons on any of the powers you picked.

You don't have to respec. If you decide to it is free, and lets face it, doing a respec is really not all that troublesome. If you are one of those that feel the need complain about change because it is change and things were working ok for you before, go cry somewhere else, you will not find any pitty here. (saying in general - not directing last comment at DSorrow)

Those other powers do not damage you if you end up hitting a corpse. With the long animation time on both the heavy hitters in EM, you either spend alot of time using your lower damage attacks or alot of time waiting to do damage to a corpse. At least on teams. Solo it is really no big deal but last time I checked one of the M-s in MMO stands for multiplayer.

If the devs insist on the cast time of 2.67 then what I would like to see is the old animation of 1 second followed by 1.67 seconds of you catching your breath or somehow recovering from the health drain that you put into the attack. The damage would hit at the 1 second mark meaning fewer instances where you end up pounding the crap out of a corpse and hurting yourself in the process.

No

There is actually a villian arc where you fight some boss Mu dude. His name is Mu Kau.

Ok, then why do they run more frequently when I am on a melee toon but not when I am on a ranged toon? The same types of mobs in Mercy do not exibit the same behavior and it is very annoying in atlas trying to street sweep for your first couple levels if you cannot find a sewer team.

I can totally agree with the example you provided. I would run away too. But what about the Hellions in Atlas Park? I have run up to a group of 3 +2 mobs and one of them takes off before I even attack. After reading this I thought maybe I took a bunch of insp so the mobs keyed on on that and took off. So I rerolled a fire/fire blaster and made sure not to take the vet powers so there would be no debuffs.

I run up to the first set of mobs I see. 2 LT and 3 minions. They all attack. Great. I get the first minion to about half health. One of the other minions runs away. Really? My health is dropping pretty fast due to being a blaster and that is enough to break his morale?

So I kill a few more mobs without any issues. Which I thougt was a bit odd since I am used to mobs always running away in Atlas. So I reroll to a scrapper BS/WP. A defense debuff would not prevent the mobs from attacking so I should not have any issues. I roll up to the first set of even con minions. Group of 3. I walk up without even drawing my sword. One takes off for the hills. I continue to not attack and let the remaining 2 mobs hit me for a while as I watch this hellion jump fences, jump back over fences, run down the street, jump on some cars in a parking lot then wander back to the spawn point. So far I still have not attacked. As soon as he gets back to see his 2 buddies beating me up and me not fighting back, he takes off again. I mean WTF.

The next group I go to has a LT and 3 minions. As soon as I get in aggro range, one takes off. I stand there getting pummeled for a bit and get down to about 2/3 health. About this time the minion that ran got himself droned. Then a 2nd minion takes off and he gets himself droned as well.

Is this WAI?