Hammerfall

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Paying prestige to place personnal items is WAI.

/em runs for cover.

When you craft an item, its more like you are desiging a one shot blue print. One designed you have to pay to place it. I don't think your should have to but than I am not a dev.

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Just found out reading a little faq at US forums, that anybody regardless of priviledges can place "personal" items(that are crafted with worktables) - that cost SG prestige to place! Devs!! Thankfully my SG isnt going to have that workshop that SG members can misuse anytime soon, cause we are getting magical negative prestige from somewhere! -40000 right now! I recommend laying off base designing until the support gets its heads in a gear.

Grats to Rufa, the latest Goonie lvl 50!
That makes now..um..many!

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for arcane base you need 6 arcane foci, each made from 3 bits of salvage.

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Okay thanks, iirc the tech version would then be 6 tech power.
(tech power=arcane foci). Hum ,sorry about the little offtopic.

Can anyone answer if the telepads for tping to different zones (with the beacon badges) are built on the teleporter room or somewhere else? I hdidnt get chance to test this on beta.. What do you need to build a telepad btw?

duh this is the wrong forum, oh well..

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If I was an Empath on an 8-man Carnie mission with a Tank who only taunted Strongmen, I'd probably have better things to do than heal him. Like the tough choice between a polite lesson in the fine art of Tanking or kicking the chicken-<censored> son of a <censored>.

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Yup. Tankers job is take it to the chin for the rest of the team

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2 me it seem's that the role of a tank is starting 2 look like stand there and die so ur team don't

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Self-sacrifice! Thats a good soldier!

I hope the devs would realize that all the nerfing causes problems primarily to those that are halfway in the game, characters not having all necessary powers nor balanced build.

However, at least I am still tanking okay at lvl 50(play-style has changed trememdously though), and two friends at around lvl 35 say to have great fun teaming their ice and stone tanks..

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Not for me this one, think ED has hurt it more than we suspect, i may jump in at the holding phase to help out though

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Aye, you can never tell how many controllers we are short..

Maybe we could try the "have a battery of blasters sniping Hami below 50% and 25% from outside the bubble" tactic? With pets and debuffs, kinetics boosting the blasters, maybe? I have no idea what kind of range is needed..

And as for christmas theme, we could build a christmas tree from hovering people(group flight even) with PbAoE auras and invul tankers for decoration! Rad defenders! Auras of different sizes so they build up a cone!

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I dont think hes talking about aggro limit. Hes talking about you actually missing with attacks. Some tanker attacks with high activation time cant hit a moving target fx. total focus.

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Ok this thread may have derailed a bit. However, you can always hit a moving target with one melee attack, as you need to be in range only when the power activates, not when it finishes. As unrealistic as it is. Ok doesnt work with area attacks but with single-targets yes.

Trick is to press/mash the attack button beforehand, so it queues. Then fly/run/whatever by the target, when you are momentarily in range (even if you shoot by) the attack will activate and hit even if the opponent is 200 yds away when it finishes. Even works on teleporting targets..

I dont know if this trick works on total focus as I havent had that in any of my characters yet..

In PvP there is the trick of setting "follow" to target which helps tremendously when they are doing evasive maneuvers..

And in PvE I normally dont have problems with targets running away, they will run back eventually anyway. And chasing them might not be a good idea cause it might aggro a group behind corner when the team is not ready for it.

EDIT: looking at the original question, I really dont know what is wrong, except if an area attack is being used that will not give any 'miss':es if no targets are in range. (you can activate area attack even if there are no targets)
I used to activate my whirling mace and my fiendish claws scrapper friend would shockwave the enemies away right from under my nose..

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What i really find shocking is that this hasnt been addressed or commented on by the devs.

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Well.. there is always the possibility that it is working as they intended..

So far my SG has energy and computer rooms plus working generator and main-frame. Next up is workshop room.. This might actually be possible.

There still exists the problem of getting proper salvage refinement working without the need of constantly selling and buying worktables. I couldnt do it in Beta with 36 million prestige, cant see it happening here either.

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I'd be more than happy to do the taunting, if you fancy a change. I got DP on 3 recharge and 3 Heal, so it's pretty much perma with hasten (even in it's busted form). Anyway, it'll give me a reason to go on the "Xmas Raid" as well!


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DP isnt any closer to perma with scrappers anyway..but who cares Tankers still get more base HP.
3 heal, 3 recharge redux is the new cookie cutter, been using that solidly after I5. I dont think the self-heal prospect gives much consolation when Hami is eyeing you down however..
"who dares disturb my slumber *rumble*"..
Lets do it together, Honsou, eh?

This might be a good place to start earning those damage sustained badges

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That's strange because I think it rocks as an aggro holder.

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Maybe I have higher standards

heh..depends on what the rest of the team is doing..

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It really does rock for holding aggro. Just because it doesn't do damage, don't underestimate it. Two taunt enhancers in and things will stick to you like glue!

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As I have been playing invul tanker since february (lvl 50 one several months), I am not underestimating anything just after somebody's writings.. Purely personal opinion...
Ok, I may take back my opinion a little.. I may not have been the most objective person after the changes I5 etc started to take place.

I almost got rid of invincibility when I used my free I5 respec.. Currently running just one def slot in it. In the end I couldnt bring myself to lose this once über power.. Kept it for the taunt value if nothing else.
I agree it was a must power once.. In my eyes its nowhere near the I3 effectiveness now, maybe thats why I am being so sceptical about it.

Ah well, I still have 3 respecs in storage

Granted, I think Im slotting it back in my upcoming I6/ED build, I was just majorly miffed about the change as I perceived it in betweem I4->I5, mostly the def part though.

And one more thing, I am known for my rather unorthodox thinking Bear with me.

Ah, there is nobody more ignorant than one who doesnt want to know.. Actually I am not blaming him as much as those people who got him to lvl 50 in the first place.. I'm sure if not for that he'd have left the game already..

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Are you sure that the OP couldn't of meant shadow maul. Same animation but about one hundred thousand times the AWESOMENESS!

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Shadow Maul is available to Tankers at level 6?

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I guess he is talking about Brutes, not tankers

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regen 'was' better, and still works (with healers). If any brave soul wants to take over, so i can be more active in the raid then feel free to ask.

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But hey, why not?

I was ready to argument my proposition solely because it is much more difficult to pull hami aggro off a real tanker, so we'd have percentually less griefing cases.. And since we'd need healers in any case, I think this idea is sound. A tanker say, myself . I have 2 taunts, dull pain and even health.. heh. Ready any time! Too bad DP cant be made perma, but I dont think it matters that much.

(ok, any time when real life doesnt hamper but..)

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That's strange because I think it rocks as an aggro holder.

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Maybe I have higher standards

heh..depends on what the rest of the team is doing..

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Inv has an aggro magnet aura too, it just taunts, no damage. Invincibility or something like that - the one that adds defence per mob.

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Correct. Invincibility adds defense and tohit buff for every opponent in melee range and taunts them as well. And it seriously sucks as an aggro holder if you ask me.

There has been weird cases of enemies simply not losing aggro like they should. My controller friend SWEARS that malta gunslingers hate her.. And when I taunted the gunslinger twice, hit him, froze him into a block of ice and after he melted he was STILL attacking the controller who didnt even attack him... Im inclined to agree.

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And dear god, it takes lot of stacking to overcome a tankers taunt. >_<

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Wouldnt it be better if the hami-tanker was actually a tanker then? Just extra empath and maybe a backup in case of dying..

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Nope, I lost aggro twice because two tanks taunted hamidon. Not sure if it was by mistake or not. Believe it was Super Tank and Caterine something.

Not that it really mattered, we didnt have the holding power anyway.

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Catiene Winters was on her first raid and taunted by mistake (she was on the same team as me and it wasn't deliberate). I sent a tell to Super Tanker after he taunted and he said that it was a bind that accidentally went off. These things happen

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*talking in general*
Great stuff that we can discuss these matters in a civil manner, find out the truth and realize all that there is often no need to verbally abuse someone Even better if people are able to apologize
Sometimes tempers may run a little frayed in a massive endeavor like hami-raid or a TF.. It just happens.

Run around yes, run to the safe zone, no

But then again, Im a tank

Its perfectly ok to keep running to safe zone in my opinion though, thats what Im saying. It will just make me call you chicken

Aye, I know the Caterine tank did it by accident and apologised later..

I just hope nobody thought I was there taunting just because Im a tank and was in the holding grp. My Block of ice from epic pool is a hold after all.. Been used in one succesful hami raids so far.. Got this nagging suspicion some people wouldnt know of it, in one raid sometime I was ordered out of the group despite my explanations, I followed orders like I always do..

From my viewpoint Hamitanker lost aggro twice during holding phase and I thought once because the hamitanker crashed.. Cant be sure cause I kept hami targeted all the time and hold on auto..

And in my opinion we didnt fail because of griefers..

Well I had weaken on beta but not envenom. I used it a lot and feel it might be worth using..It is slightly weak though.
Dunno which is better, envenom or weaken as I had no experience on the former. My MM was lvl 25 at best on beta.
Slotting my robots for accuracy felt a better plan than trying to use the def debuff.. And as for damage, the moment I slammed the first damage SO on my robots they suddenly started to kick serious posteriors

I used the cone -rec debuff as much as possible however. All the poison powers had slightly longish recharges which is somewhat annoying..

I also didnt notice anything wrong from spacemonkehh. Only ever saw him in the goo just watching.

Imo it was that other individual - powerleveling impersonated - who was causing trouble.. I'm not exactly sure on everything he did since I have had him on ignore ages ago. (not allowed to name names) Im sure he made several other ppl's ignorelist last night.

At some point when the mitos were done or almost done, the attacking group had to move out of the goo cause hami had noticed them. Unfortunately they ran towards two quarrys that attacked as a result. At that time I had just arrived and was hovering high, saw it all. No griefing involved in that incident at least.

I agree that the reason of failure was mostly ED, dont know how much, cause I thought that there were plenty of trollers in the previous raids as well, yet they failed. (I was on the first successful one on defiant and 2 previous ones before that).

Well all we can do now is gather more trollers, debuffers and boosters.

Lastly, TG you've got guts even if you wear pink!
I escaped the eventual Mito spawn easily at first, when I was hovering high I heard TG shout "We can do this!! Fulcrum shift!". Felt a sudden spike of heroism and flew back in

Thank you who organised the raid, I hadnt planned it but just flew in to take a peek. Ended up participating
Now everyone can start speculating the effect of ED on the raid's outcome..

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I have no intention of stopping my style of play with my SG (a group of friends who have known each other for many years). I play this game for fun, not politics.


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You get thumbs-up from me, as this is how it should be done. That's how the Goonies started off.. We are basically the same lot of people just getting together and having fun.. there's just more of us