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did they say yet when they will allow them to be put on AH?
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Quote:Considering people already can get from 0-50 in 4 hours of an AE farm (using a 2xp booster), are we really worried about "other areas of the game" being broken by this proc?Originally Posted by Reppu
But I agree with an above poster: Because it doesn't work in two areas in the whole game, it's apparently fine.
The level of delight I get from you trying to protect the precious thing is immense.
In my use case, I run ITFs and itrials and maybe other TFs like STF or Reichsman, and it really isn't making that much of an impact. That's how I play at 50+. So yes, it wouldn't matter that much to me if it is reduced in power as it's not making a big impact on my play. But I am automatically against the "nerf it now" crowd. Precisely because you are not considering the cases where the proc is not "overpowered."
Just stick a target cap / to-hit check on the thing and be done.
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Quote:Hey thanks John I will try to check it out. Ageless is being used now mainly for +recovery as the chain runs me dry. It's not needed much more for the recharge.Originally Posted by John_Printemps
Edit: Granite, if you're open to the use of some Enhancement Boosters, then take a look at the modifications I made to your build. I stripped out your reliance on Ageless. The build still runs the same chain, but without requiring Ageless to do so, which gave me a chance to improve a few other places.
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EDIT: quickly looking at your rebuild, it recovers 3.13/sec vs. passive drain (not attacking) of 1.1/sec (toggled off Glacial and Chilling). I don't think that's enough to sustain the chain? Also your rebuild does not seem to softcap E/N def? -
Quote:Amen brother. Voice of reason in a sea of hyperbole. Same thing on the itrials.Originally Posted by Local_Man
I ran an ITF with my Fire/Rad last night, and found the Bonfire+Proc to be a nice but far from game-breaking addition. Anywhere from 15-75% of the foes were affected since most of the Cims are knockback resistant. A few times I threw it into a large group and did not survive the ranged attack in retaliation -- this character is not built with any ranged defense.
It added some to his ability to control in a TF which notoriously neuters control -- it had a larger effect on the Third Reich and the Dark Dwarves, of course, but there were still plenty of foes who could shoot at me. When the Dwarves started flopping, the Novas and Nicti made me their favorite target.
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Quote:I changed up the slotting in SB to be Hami Acc/Dmg, Hami Acc/Dmg, Dmg IO, Lady Grey Negative, Mako Lethal, -RES Achilles.
BU > AS > CU > HB > SB > AS > SC > HB > SB > AS > CU > HB > SB > AS > SC > SB
It runs exactly around Build Up, and every fifth rotation would look like this:
BU > AS > CU > HB > SB > AS > SC > HB > SB > AS > CU > [Hasten] > HB > SB > [Ageless] > SC
To snag Hasten and Ageless at their "best" recycle points.
SB does not recharge fast enough to recharge at the end of the chain above (SB > AS > SC > SB). So I swapped HB & SB order in the chain.
BU - AS - CU - SB - HB - AS - SC - etc.
That seemed more like the order Ricodah was using. Also note that BU is actually recharging BEFORE the final SB (it recharges after the final SC). So should i hit it before the final SB ... and then still hit SB? Or Skip the final SB?
Ricodah is running Assault which must be helping him. Best time running hybrid toggled was 2.01 so far. Woop 1.56 but i may have started the stopwatch a second or two late.
Could the difference to Ricodahs' 1.44 be down to him running Assault and having 1 more damage proc in IS?
Meh now I'm getting really frustrated -- just had 3 runs with hybrid toggled that took like 3.00 -3.30. WTF. I dont' know why I can't get consistent times.
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On first glace at the video, you have Assault (running?) which I don't have. And you also have more procs in Shin Breaker (2 damage procs and -RES) vs. 1 for me (just -RES) as well as 1 more damage proc (at least) in IB vs. my HB.
I am amazed you +5'd Purples lol. ... I can't stand disabling them like that for selling etc.
On the kismet issue / whiffing issue -- my combat log constantly shows 95% in last-chance-to-hit (I monitor it) ... I don't think it's an accuracy/to-hit thing, I think it's just RNG on the 5% chance to miss. -
Quote:Disagree. My incarnated Plant/Kin troller is a stronger toon. Fulcrum Shifted Carion Creepers proccing Reactive is stronger AOE, and his single-target is stronger due to FS. Even with Fire/Rad running Hot Feet and Choking Cloud and the KB-proc bonfire. Plant/Kin survives better and does more damage AOE and, honestly, seems about as good at control due to Seeds.Originally Posted by StratoNexus
I doubt it. You underestimate the power of Fire control, both in damage and its ability to control (and that is before ludicrous Bonfire). -
Quote:I don't quite know how you are pwning my times, but maybe it is T4 Assault vs. T3 Assault. I posted an update on the scrapper pylon thread. Would be grateful for input. Going to run a few with Hybrid slotted (T3 Assault) but not toggled, for comparison with you here. Where are you using BU during the chain?Originally Posted by ricohdah
Dusted of my StJ/SR Stalker and changed up the build to try to fix the problem I was having with Crushing Uppercut not getting criticals 100% of the time after the use of the Stalker's Guile proc in AS. The SB-AS-SC-SB-AS-CU attack chain is 10.032secs long, Arcantime. The Stalker's Guile proc has a PPM of 5 so I changed to a chain that has a 12sec cycle and CU does critical all the time now.
I had a choice to add in SS to the chain but decided to respec and tossed in 2 proc'd out Inital Strikes making the cycle 12.144secs long. So currently my chain is [BU-AS-CU] SB-IS-AS-SC-SB-IS-AS-CU-repeat. I am getting consistent 2:30 to 2:35 pylon times for 375 to 383 DPS. That's with T4 Musculature Radial, T4 Reactive Radial and T4 Assault Hybrid passive bonus. No Destiny, Lore, Judgement, temps, inspira or outside buffs. Hybrid was not toggled.
For spits and giggles I did a run with T4 Assault Core Hybrid toggled on and got a time of 1:50 for 476 DPS. Core's damage buff is a pretty consistent +75% on the above chain (+101.5%, including the passive damage bonus and miscellaneous bonuses).
Times with Hybrid T3 Assault slotted not toggled:
2.55
3.22 (lots of misses and bad BU timing)
2.45 (would have been 2.40 if CU hadn't missed)
3.40 (lots of misses)
2.30
if that's not crazy RNG variability, i can't figure it out.
OK now I crafted T4 Assault (slotted, not toggled):
3.06 (lots of misses, esp AS-CU ... man a couple of whiffs and DPS just goes to crap)
3.00 (more misses, whiffs on AS, missed AS at the start....)
2.55
Again, no idea WTF is going on ... how are these times WORSE than T3 Assault?
And then 2.04 with Hybrid T4 Core Assault toggled, which is 14 secs more than Ricodah's time
My god this is frustrating. I blew like 3 hours pylon testing tonight
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Quote:Off the top of my head, Greater Devoured and Seers (which hover and don't get affected, it seems). Both of which whooped my butt several times on a recent UG. Heck UG has packs of mobs that are *just* Greater Devoureds.Originally Posted by plainguy
But beyond that I yet to see any mobs stuck in the patch fight back. I would consider that worse then 100% hit debuff. Even with hit debuff you have a chance for streak breaker to take effect or mobs run off.
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Again, hyperbole aside, in my experience running itrials this isn't really making that much of a difference on my fire/rad. In part because of all the immobs being thrown around (people keep AOE-immobing groups, which nullifies BF). In part because of the mobs that resist it.
Gee OK maybe it is helping ppl level up on blasters or whatever but I'm not seeing that. -
Quote:Meh, so put a target cap if you are that concerned.Originally Posted by EvilGeko
I was concerned about what Arcana posted here so I went and tested this exactly. Exemplared to level 24 in Ouro and went to the RWZ. Found a group of 43 Malta (+19 will have to do!) Here's what happened: I cast the bonfire; as expected the critters go flopping on their butts. I recast a new patch before earlier one expires. When the first patch expired, I died instantly as the critters had a second or two to react, then they wen't flopping again.
OK, I admit I was wrong. Being able to incapacitate +20s is 'game-breaking' at least in the sense that it allows one to circumvent the purple patch.
I have this on my 50 incarnate Fire/Rad troller and seriously in my play it has not really made a big difference. Even on the escapee phase of the BAF -- you still get the Lts running right through it. And on trials like BAF or SLAM, ok maybe it helps you a little avoid the alpha from a group around crates or whatever, but with all the immobs being thrown around, the flopping stops almost immediately. And it does basically nothing to the AVs that didn't happen before.
I seriously have not seen it be game breaking in any way for me. My Fire/Rad doesn't feel significantly overpowered on trials vs. 3 weeks ago -- even on frakking Mag farms. *shrug* -
Quote:I 100% agree with EG.Originally Posted by EvilGeko
Not saying that it's working as intended, but game-breaking is taking it too far. My melees can quite simply kill quicker and safer than a Fire Control character using this proc.
I have a hard time saying a ranged AT is 'broken' or 'game-breaking when I can exceed the performance this IO gives on at least 5 of my characters. -
There had been an idea proposed that for Doms the new snipe mechanics would work under Domination instead of being to-hit based like for other ATs.
That sounded super cool.
Did Synapse ever give further comment? -
I'm not 100% certain but I believe this is my live build. Up for suggestions on how to tweak it to make it even better.
Haven't really thought yet about where the new 2nd ATO set could/should go.
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Quote:forces players to run the event to get a chance of the IO, rather than being able to buy it on the market. devs effectively force players into playing their content.Originally Posted by Ironblade
Seriously, how is it convenient for them?
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Can we put it on the market yet? quite a convenient "bug" for them at launch.
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10 runs, zero procs.
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Quote:Looks like 6-slot Gaussian in scrapper tactics gives 11.03%?Originally Posted by TommyTrD
Any scrapper with a Kismet, tactics, and bio armor in offensive mode will be able to have enough tohit for it to be perma. On beta Offensive Mode currently gives 7% to hit. Kismet is another 6%. Tactics can get you the rest I think. I'd have to look. Also if it weren't for that horrible re-draw claws/db would be great for it.
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It's a great idea. But I am stuck wondering if it is worth it, as it causes you to lose an APP with better AOE damage. I find the Fire APP pool and Fireball to be of far more use to me in standard content than ramping up my s-t damage further. On teams, I almost never find myself wishing I had more s-t damage ....
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John is stud. Nuff said.
I played around in MIDS and one issue may be recharge. I think the PPP snipes have 20 second recharge? So you'll have to have a pretty high recharge build to work them into a chain on a regular basis. -
Quote:I said the same thing 2-3 posts above. Without any reply from the OP.Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
One thing I noticed on your build though is that when Stealth is supressed you fall under the 45% softcap, unless I missed something. But I don't know if that matters much to you. -
I built one to 50 softcapped against S/L and IO'd out. Felt very lacking on +4/+8 -- things like Arachnos and Carnies tore it apart. Rebuilt as TW/SR and felt much better. TW/ELA would be more awesome as well.
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I made an StJ/WP who is soft-capped to S/L/E/N and icapped with Shadow Meld.
The downside is you sacrifice some attack chain dps to reach that survivability.
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Powerboosted Farsight and a Kismet +6% should have you above the 22% market on to-hit without having to use Tactics.
Here's what I'm currently thinking about. Pulled slots out of slowed response as they were only there for Melee/AOE bonuses I can get from the snipe set. Dropped Time's Juncture and it seems really weak and not contributing to fights.
This build uses T4 clarion to icap.
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Clarion + powerboost + farsight = icap levels of Defense. It's absurd on teams with more sources of +Def, and great solo.
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if you're testing single target DPS isn't it better to put the -RES proc in Burn?