Friggin_Taser

And I want a server only for men who listen to and know way too many George Michael lyrics while still totally liking girls.

It's Freedom, you've got to give for what you take.

I certainly don't want to speak for Sam in any way, shape, or form, but I think he means if the devs can avoid the urge to start adding enhancements-for-sale that give dramatic and huge fundamental shifts in gameplay, they win.

It's the tempting Idol sitting on the rock that most Free2Play game developers foolishly grab and end up getting crushed by the rolling rock of fan dissent. Selling something that gives an obvious and constant advantage (like, say, Alpha Slot-level boosts in a store-only IO set) would generate a lot of quick and easy buys but is it worth the bad forum PR it'd generate?

That's the ying and yang of free to play.

You do realize this is from issue 21, right? And that there's a lot of time between now and when issue 21 hits for them to advertise the change via a website article or a developer's letter, no?

It's unfortunate that this got into the ComicCon demo, but if the demo was of issue 21, it'd be kind of hard to avoid. But I think it's silly to believe they were just going to plop this down on live servers without some fanfare on the website and some backstory in the form of some kind of dev post here officially in the coming months. It's just a matter of priority and with a new issue bringing Free to Play gameplay, new trials, new power sets, a new veteran rewards system, and more to advertise first they hadn't gotten to it yet.

I'm not going to go through this and the original thread to catalog all the flagrant pronoun and hyperbole abuse. I'm just glad Zwill said specifically that they are not only taking into account feedback but also looking into just who posted it, so the standard forum echo chamber of disdain doesn't take effect.

See also: Fifth Column into Council change?

And it took them 7 years to do that.

Yet people are claiming the sky is falling because cries for soloable incarnate content haven't been addressed within 6 months.

If only there were a forum for suggestions where you can post this wonderful idea instead of over and over again in General Discussions.

Level ranges mean absolutely nothing at this point in City of Heroes.

And all content drops shards. While the signature system has not been tied to the incarnate system, the devs have been openly vocal that they heard the call for solo incarnate content and it is in the works. Veruca Salt'ing it up and demanding it NOA is unrealistic.

Yeah, it's not like the devs have promised soloable incarnate content in the future and have already announced a system of MONTHLY signature story arcs that promise to be more epic than the current in-game story arcs, giving us more story arcs in one calendar year than we've had in years.

Clearly, the devs have ignored solo players and we must spam the forums about it!

The fact that you ignored my original post entirely to martyr yourself and scream "Help, I'm being oppressed" has brought us here, Bill.

Keep ignoring the reality of the situation. The Eiko-Chans of last month are the AmazingMoos of today. We don't need 5-6 threads in this forum every day saying the same thing, with the same handful of posters replying in them en mass to attempt to make this look like more of a critical issue than it is. The devs have promised future solo incarnate content and unless we're all just ignoring reality, we know that development takes time.

But so far this thread I've seen you hand wave any and all evidence that there are actual people who like the trials as faulty evidence because it gets in the way of what you want. I've seen you post your suggestion for soloable content that only the most min-maxed of characters will be able to complete as your great solution.

Great, Bill. When you get your soloable arc with a level 54 AV that only the most PvP IO'd out scrappers can beat, will you also be here to tell the people posting that the devs wasted time on content most of the playerbase can't solo are wrong and gloat that you did it? Or will you just be happy that you got what you wanted and threaten to let your account lapse in protest once you finish it yet again? Why should the devs waste even an hour of programming time on content that negates almost all ATs who can't even solo an EB of even con status let alone an AV just because you are posting a lot?

"Because it gives us more choices!" you'll whine. But you are wrong. That's not a choice. That's a waste of dev resources. Just like these threads are a waste of forum resources.

And we come to the crux of the problem with the anti-raid sentiment on this forums.

Facts are no longer useful. Only the observations of those who support your ideas are are truly useful. Ignore the fact that RWZ is packed daily with people doing PUG raids, since you can explain that away as "it's the only way to earn incarnate awards" instead of admitting that some people like the trials themselves. I know I've run trials on characters I've already maxed T4'd on just because I like to lead them and help others or even like the random teaming to meet new people.

But let's ignore that, because my anecdotal evidence gets in the way of your anecdotal evidence. And since I'm not going to pester the forum community at large by making 4-5 threads a day to post the SAME anecdotal evidence the anti-raiding crowd is, I guess my own experience is trumped by their ability to spam their discontent.

I might be grinding trials. But you are grinding discontent on a message board. At least in the end of the day, I get some shiny badges and some salvage for my troubles.

It took them 7 years to give the players who wanted end game raids what they want.

You can wait a few more months.

Trust me, my PMs also include a free change to the badge to make it more accessible to everyone in an AE/new badge system kind of way if they don't just want to charge people for it.

But I would pay.

This. So. Much.

Just call them origin retcons. I have two characters (one Natural, one Mutant) who both became more tech as I expanded and played them to level 50.

Yes, I agree with you. *World explodes*

My view/fear is that most of the people on Freedom who exist only to powerlevel through AE will migrate to the VIP server since their market of selling powerleveling will dry up with free players unable to access AE. If that makes the VIP server even a fraction of some of the things I've seen on Freedom before the "Break the Server" challenge day, I want no part in that.

I'd rather stay on Pinnacle and be a big fish in a little pond than a little fish stuck in powerleveling and PvP smacktalk hell on the VIP server.