Fire_Minded

How cute, I have a Stalker.

Im no longer arguing with anyone on the Perma-Hasten Issue, because you have a few seconds down time, which people say isnt Perma, maybe its not, but id very much like you to stop stalking me Lucky666.

I can easly get you for Harrassment by trying to focus unwanted attention towards another poster, when they are not on the post your talking about.

So back off, and just for your information Lucky666, my Resistance Tanks can blow through the difficulties I just quoted.My Fire Tanker is set up for massive Damage, even for a Tanker, and my Elec Tanker is set up for Damage and KD.

Its a diffrent playing style using the Tankers I use vs WP/ or Inlvn/ sets.Why dont you try it some time.

If you had issues on a FA/DB Tanker, which would seem like a solid Tank for my playing style, it doesnt work for yours.

Id say youd be happier with a WP/ build, which isnt uncommon for 75% of people who play Tankers.

If youv had a bad experiance with a Tanker, dont make others look down on it by cutting it down.By doing this, you push other people who would acctually like, and enjoy, as well as properly play a FA/ Tanker to play WP/ or Invln/ Type builds, that they may or, may not like at all.

Im learning to not put down things, because it does no one any good.

My Red bars under my Name and Picture attest to this.Not that I mind, Red matches my Picture and Name.

Iv been making Defenders, left and right, and the one I didnt like off the bat was my Cold/Ice Defender, but I went ahead and kept playing it.

My thought was that it was a Slow Riser, like some Tankers.So I kept playing till level 22, where everything seemed to change for my Cold/Ice.The moment I hit level 22, I bought Up SOs, and I was happy to be over the Stamina, and DO hump.

I went into a Mission, and fired off a Ice Storm, and a Snow Storm, and started laying into the mob with my Frost Breath, and ST attacks.Not only did I survive, but I dropped a +0 /5 w/bosses Mob by my self.So I upped the mob grouping to +0 /8 w/bosses....I SURVIVED!

That to me means im on a good track with this Defender, and I may be playing it more then the rest of my Defenfders because it acctually does damage, and gives great CC.It litterally feels like a Blaster to me.

Does anyone have a higher level Cold/Ice Defender that could toss in some insight on how much more damaging and powerful itll become?

Hi there, im curious how many Defenders out there acctually Tank, or do more then mash healing buttons?

Iv found it possible to Tank with all my Defenders, and each one of them deals decent to high damage for a Defender, and not 1 of them have a heal.Well, unless you consider Triage a heal anyhow.

Each one of my Defenders has, or will have anywhere from 4 to 5 AoE/Cone attacks, on top of there ST Blasts, and a boat load of debuffs.

Iv recently learned how to Tank with my Storm/Elec Defender, which I found surprising to say the least.You can hit a Mob with Freezing Rain, then ancor a Snow Storm on a Boss, and jump in, and wack the mob with a Lightning Clap.It stuns the Minions, and drops alot of incomming damage.Then I continue the assault with my AoEs and eat the Endurance of the mob, so if they survive long enough, the mob is powerless, and without Endurance, making it easy on the team as well.

My Cold/Ice with increased Range from jumping back the moment I trigger Sleet, allowing me to easly Alpha a mob, and put them on there butts, so my self, and the entire team can rush in and kill it all.Talk about tanking from a Distance, this Defender can do it rather easly, and dish out the damage, while staying out of the mobs ranged attacks radius.

Iv discovered that with my Sonic/Sonic Also has a hidden way to Tank in its Play.Using Siren's Call as a Alpha, then following up with a AoE Knockback Shock Wave (I think thats the name, I rarly look), that most skip, because they belive it to not be team friendly.It allows you to hit a Mob with Alpha, giving the Team the upper hand to take out the mob while they are down.Yes, the -res on your blasts matter that much to a team while playing this build.It is easier to fudge this Alpha up a bit easier then you can with the previously mentioned 2 Defenders.

Then my Traps/Rad, You can easly Alpha a Mob and tank for a team, simply by using Seeker Drones on a mob before moving in.Anyone whos ever played Traps, should know how powerful these little boogers are.Allowing you to jump in, and set up a Kill Zone for the team that follows you.

Then my Dark/Dark.If any of you have seen a D3, you know exactly what that Defender can do.

Theres soo many Combonations I could play with Defenders, and they can all shine in a team setting, and most of them, in a solo setting as well.

How many of you can step up and Alpha a team without a Tanker leading the way?

Id like future Defender Players to know whats possible with a Defender, so please, dont be shy.Step on up and tell us how you do what you do, and do so well.

That would be cool.You could call it it the High Colonic Blasts.

As said before, Grav/FF is a rare combonation on this game, but I think I got it beat.

How many FF/Archery Defenders do you see?

1.....ME!

Anyhow, Im going to go with Grav/TA for my Controller.

That is if i can stop makin new Defenders ...Now im leveling a Frickin FF/Archery..

The way I perma'd both AM and Hasten, was by triggering my Hasten, that had 3 SOs of recharge, then 5 seconds later, Triggering AM.If you stay on top of it, that 5 seconds of Recharge allows Hasten to coast to where you can trigger it again, when it wears off, and it adds to the Recharge of the remaining 5 seconds of AM, which also has 3 SOs of Recharge in it.

Thus, you just triggered them both, back to back, a mere 5 seconds after Hasten Wears off from the first cycle.If 5 seconds isnt considered perma, then fine, but 5 Seconds is NOTHING.

Hasten First, 5 seconds later, AM, then Hit Hasten the moment it looks like its about to fully recharge, it goes off, then hit AM 5 seconds later.

I can chirp in on a Storm/ Defender, because one of my many Defenders is a Storm/Elec.

I think its the Storm/ players your teaming with.I have no problems on this build, and I do dole out some rather good damage on this build with its blasts.I also can take the Alpha on teams if we cant find a Tanker, because of the Endurance I drain after making the mob flop onto there butts with Freezing Rain, and ancoring a Snow Storm on a Boss before getting into the mobs range of ranged attacks.

Sometimes, I elect a Scrapper if we cant find a Tanker if the mobs are +3 or higher on the difficulty scale, because with my Debuffs, the Scrapper can take the Alpha if theres no Tank.

For me personally, I have yet to try taking down a AV or GM with her yet, but I will try in the future.From how I can handle mobs, and Bosses, I dont dout that I can widdle down a AV with her.

Having no -regen isnt much of a issue, mainly because with my build, you can easly fire off a ST chain, with the Snipe on a Big Bad, thanks mainly in part to the -end ability I carry with mine, and the proper use of Hurricane.

At level 25, I tend to do around 180 Damage on a Snipe, and 100 on Lighting Bolt, and 55 on Charged Bolt, after I use Freezing Rain.I have no douts that even without the -regen, Lightning Storm, the 3 shot ST attack chain I just mentioned, Aim, Voltiac Sentinal, and Thunder Strike from the Epic Pool.Ill have no issues once I drain the AV, or GM's Endurance, and keep it in Freezing Rain while running Hurricane, While I Zap all the fluid from its body like a bug landing on a Bug Zapper.

I will agree that Sonic will be a good mix with Storm, if your looking for more damage, however, the main reason why my Storm Defender is so successful at using the Storm set, is largy due to the Endurance I sap from her enemies.If I had made her with a diffrent Secondary, I prolly would have deleted her by now, because jumping into a mob and using 2-4 AoEs that drop the mobs Endurance to 0, (depending on what your fighting and the difficult level), just makes a great mix with Storm.

The few Storm Defenders iv seen use there powers like they are going out of style, and really dont contain much, and all to often use the KB of Storm like they just cant stop them selves from pushing the buttons.

Most people dont get the idea of how to play a Defender, so id say its those players making it look bad.

Almost forgot, Hurricane adds a Huge -toHit debuff if anything even tries to get near you, or you get near them.So tanking a AV should be easly possible.

Ok, so I guess being able to back to back Hasten and AM the moment they wear off has been imagined huh?

Very well, Ill make a Rad Aura toon and video it, as well as show that its only using SOs.

Bit of a heads up to everyone that uses Trip Mine.

Iv used it on a Blaster, and a Defender, and unless im mistaken, both of the ATs Trip Mines, do the exact same damage.

Its rather cute when I set a Trip mine in a mob on my Traps Defender, and it hits them all for 200 at level 27.

Just a heads up there Lucky666, Iv done it 2 times before on a Plant/Rad, Controller and a Rad/Rad Defender.

Claws, Broad Sword, Katana, Dual Blades are all good choices.

I suggjest all the Weapon sets, because nothings prettier then the Eye-Ball weapons with Dark Armor.Its very good to Theme them together.

Also, with Claws, you save alot of Endurance vs the other sets, and its rather easy and fun to play.

I went ahead and made my BS/SD Orc, because of the Eyeball equipment, and Orcs tend to like pretty, yet mocob looking things.Like a Rams Skull shaped into a hat with Feathers.

Ok, Im curious about how people use IOs, and suggjest how they use them to others on this forum.

I will point out, that this isnt a attempt to attack anyone on this forum, its just something im curious about, and dont understand.

Iv been watching people talk about adding Def% IOs to there builds, and have watched alot of others suggjest the same thing to another player using IOs.

"I have a Fire Armor Tank, and I was wanting to know what would be a good way to IO it?"

Common answer, "Put possitional Defense in it."

"Would Perma-Dom still be good on a Dominator since it doesnt boost damage anymore?"

Common Answer, "Put possitional Defense in it."

"Iv got a Earth/Empathy Controller, whats a good IO path?"

Common Answer, "Put possitional Defense in it."

"I have a Elec/Elec brute, should I give it Global Recharge to get faster Heals from Energize and Lightining Rods?"

Common Answer, "Put possitional Defense in it."

Ok, thats 4 Examples of something I dont understand, and belive me, theres alot more then just 4 I could toss out there.

These are acctual builds iv watched people ask a question about, and all get the same common answer.Im curious as to why this seems to be the only way to IO anything for so many people?

For that Fire Armor Tank, and the Electrical Brute, id have suggjested that the Fire Tank take up Global Recharge, Recovery, and Regen, and would have suggjested the very same to the Brute.I also would have suggjested KB IOs for the Tank, that would increase the survivability, and power of those melee character more then Def% being added to there builds.

I think Global Recharge would be all the IOs a Earth/EMP controller would need, and maybe a pet IO set that allows for a BU or something like that for the pet.Def % wouldnt be needed.

Then the most puzzling thing iv ever seen, is to suggjest to a Dominator to get def %, instead of Perma-Dom.If you have enough Global Recharge to have Perma-Domination, theres aboslutly no reason to have Def %s at all, the mob is under total control, and if its not, then somethings wrong with your attack run.

So my real question is, why does everyone suggjest Possional Defense for everything in the game, when the builds would benifit from another route way more?

Perma-Dom is still extreemly Viable, and would benifit you more then Def%.

Global Recharge lets you fire off your attacks very quickly, making your AoE controls more helpful, and Perma-Dom doubling your Controls ability to Control, would make the need for Def% pointless to begin with.

Domination fills up your End Bar, so Id say really all youd wanna try for, would be Recovery, and Regen, and Global Recharge.Thats about all you need.