Solo Tanking on +0


Aett_Thorn

 

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My main is a Tank. I love being the Tank for teams...but there is always those times when you cannot get a team and I have to solo, which is fine.
I'm thinking of soloing on +0 in order to make the missions go faster and to give the allusion of high damage.

I'm just wondering if this will be too slow of leveling.

Has any Tanker soloed +0 throughout leveling?
If so, how "fast" did you level?


 

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Many Tanks got to level 50 on +0, I'm sure that many soloed it. Especially those Tanks that were created before you could change the difficulty of your missions.

Is it particularly fast? Not really. Is it slow? Again, not really. I'd probably guess in the 2-300 hour range for getting to 50 doing it nowadays.

Still, I would probably try to set yourself to at least more teammates while solo, and try to leverage your AoEs to take down more enemies faster.


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Just out of curiosity, what's the build of the tank? An Inv/SS may be able to move at a different pace than a Fire/Fire. Is this with IOs? Or without? These things may change what settings you can quickly solo at.


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Many Tanks got to level 50 on +0, I'm sure that many soloed it. Especially those Tanks that were created before you could change the difficulty of your missions.

Is it particularly fast? Not really. Is it slow? Again, not really. I'd probably guess in the 2-300 hour range for getting to 50 doing it nowadays.

Still, I would probably try to set yourself to at least more teammates while solo, and try to leverage your AoEs to take down more enemies faster.
That's what I was thinking. I figured I would really up the number of players I'm equivalent to when I get Footstomp.


 

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Just out of curiosity, what's the build of the tank? An Inv/SS may be able to move at a different pace than a Fire/Fire. Is this with IOs? Or without? These things may change what settings you can quickly solo at.
WP/SS...I figure I will really up the equivalent number when I get Footstomp.

I will be getting IO's...but most of them are not getting slotted until level 47.


 

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You could probably go +2 before Footstomp. Sure, you have no AOE, but that setting doesn't add much. Generally you'd be fighting more bosses and lieutenants with that, and SS has good ST damage that can beat those up fast.

After that, you could easily up it a notch or two more. Sure, you could probably handle +5 to +8 mobs alone, but it would take awhile to clear them all with just your STs and Footstomp. Longer than I like to take on missions, anyway (I like working on story arcs for the merits, so I balance out between that and the xp gain of adding to how many players I equal).


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You could probably go +2 before Footstomp. Sure, you have no AOE, but that setting doesn't add much. Generally you'd be fighting more bosses and lieutenants with that, and SS has good ST damage that can beat those up fast.

After that, you could easily up it a notch or two more. Sure, you could probably handle +5 to +8 mobs alone, but it would take awhile to clear them all with just your STs and Footstomp. Longer than I like to take on missions, anyway (I like working on story arcs for the merits, so I balance out between that and the xp gain of adding to how many players I equal).
Well that's the thing. I planned to have this WP/SS Tank for teaming...and I was leveling up a SS/WP Brute, for Going Rogue, and for soloing...but I just do not have fun playing a villain. So I'm just going to only use the Tank until GR comes out.
The Brute clearly solo's faster than the Tank. So i figure soloing the Tank on +0 will give the illusion that it is soloing as fast as the Brute, in regards to mission completion time.

Edit: Fixed spelling error.


 

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I tend to adjust the difficulty per character. For instance, high AoE characters might get a bump for number of players I'm equal to whereas ST characters will get a bump for level of the enemies I fight.

For instance, my Elec/Stone Tank runs at +0/x2 since he's durable and can dispatch +0 quickly. My Elec/Elec blaster runs at -1/x4 since he has more AoE.


 

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I'd also recommend using your second build for a soloing build. You can drop Taunt and slot your attacks more heavily - I think I use dual builds for my Tankers more than any other AT.

I've soloed Tankers often - while not as fast as, say, a Scrapper or Blaster, it's also considerably safer so you save time on that end by not getting as much debt and not losing time hitting hospital and running back. It won't be as fast as teaming, of course, but it's certainly viable. At least, that's my perspective, YMMV.


Oh, and minor point, but it's "illusion". Allusion is when you make a reference to something.


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Yup, I go with pretty much the same approach, Clouded. I up the number of mobs for AOE heavy ATs, up the level for ST focused ones. So my Nin Stalker does well with higher level mobs, whereas my blasters like to have more targets (usually go +1 or +0, and up the number of mobs as I increase their defense levels).


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Story Arc:
Belated Justice, #88003
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I tend to adjust the difficulty per character. For instance, high AoE characters might get a bump for number of players I'm equal to whereas ST characters will get a bump for level of the enemies I fight.

For instance, my Elec/Stone Tank runs at +0/x2 since he's durable and can dispatch +0 quickly. My Elec/Elec blaster runs at -1/x4 since he has more AoE.
Hitting the nail on the head there Clouded, the character sets the pace for soloing.Not to mention the player does as well.

Id have to say that +0 would be fine for your Tanker.Although im surprised thats the level you have to use to be speedy while soloing.Foot Stomp will help im sure, but im still surprised because I hear everyone rave about a WP/SS Tanker.Never made one personally, but have watched them before, and wasnt impressed.

Iv never solo'd missions any lower then +1/8 w/bosses on any of my Tankers, and they rip through like a flame through tissue paper.The highest I can solo at is +3/8 w/bosses on my Fire/Fire/Pyre Tanker.Im a bit reluctant to push it to +4 with my Fire Tanker, and tend to go at a +2/8 w/bosses pace on my Elec/Elec Tanker.

After Foot Stomp for your tanker is grabbed up, id up the difficulty to +0/8 w/bosses.You should have no issues ripping through that rather fast.

Right now, my level 27 Traps/Rad Defender can solo rather quickly at a +0/8 w/bosses, so I have no douts you should be able to as well.


 

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Hitting the nail on the head there Clouded, the character sets the pace for soloing.Not to mention the player does as well.

Id have to say that +0 would be fine for your Tanker.Although im surprised thats the level you have to use to be speedy while soloing.Foot Stomp will help im sure, but im still surprised because I hear everyone rave about a WP/SS Tanker.Never made one personally, but have watched them before, and wasnt impressed.

Iv never solo'd missions any lower then +1/8 w/bosses on any of my Tankers, and they rip through like a flame through tissue paper.The highest I can solo at is +3/8 w/bosses on my Fire/Fire/Pyre Tanker.Im a bit reluctant to push it to +4 with my Fire Tanker, and tend to go at a +2/8 w/bosses pace on my Elec/Elec Tanker.

After Foot Stomp for your tanker is grabbed up, id up the difficulty to +0/8 w/bosses.You should have no issues ripping through that rather fast.

Right now, my level 27 Traps/Rad Defender can solo rather quickly at a +0/8 w/bosses, so I have no douts you should be able to as well.
I know that a Tanker can solo "fast"...but remember, I'm comparing to a Brute.


 

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Hitting the nail on the head there Clouded, the character sets the pace for soloing.Not to mention the player does as well.

Id have to say that +0 would be fine for your Tanker.Although im surprised thats the level you have to use to be speedy while soloing.Foot Stomp will help im sure, but im still surprised because I hear everyone rave about a WP/SS Tanker.Never made one personally, but have watched them before, and wasnt impressed.

Iv never solo'd missions any lower then +1/8 w/bosses on any of my Tankers, and they rip through like a flame through tissue paper.The highest I can solo at is +3/8 w/bosses on my Fire/Fire/Pyre Tanker.Im a bit reluctant to push it to +4 with my Fire Tanker, and tend to go at a +2/8 w/bosses pace on my Elec/Elec Tanker.

After Foot Stomp for your tanker is grabbed up, id up the difficulty to +0/8 w/bosses.You should have no issues ripping through that rather fast.

Right now, my level 27 Traps/Rad Defender can solo rather quickly at a +0/8 w/bosses, so I have no douts you should be able to as well.
yep same person that can get perma hasten and AM at level 22 with just SOs lol.

I wouldn't take anything in this post serious.


 

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How cute, I have a Stalker.

Im no longer arguing with anyone on the Perma-Hasten Issue, because you have a few seconds down time, which people say isnt Perma, maybe its not, but id very much like you to stop stalking me Lucky666.

I can easly get you for Harrassment by trying to focus unwanted attention towards another poster, when they are not on the post your talking about.

So back off, and just for your information Lucky666, my Resistance Tanks can blow through the difficulties I just quoted.My Fire Tanker is set up for massive Damage, even for a Tanker, and my Elec Tanker is set up for Damage and KD.

Its a diffrent playing style using the Tankers I use vs WP/ or Inlvn/ sets.Why dont you try it some time.


 

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How cute, I have a Stalker.

Im no longer arguing with anyone on the Perma-Hasten Issue, because you have a few seconds down time, which people say isnt Perma, maybe its not, but id very much like you to stop stalking me Lucky666.

I can easly get you for Harrassment by trying to focus unwanted attention towards another poster, when they are not on the post your talking about.

So back off, and just for your information Lucky666, my Resistance Tanks can blow through the difficulties I just quoted.My Fire Tanker is set up for massive Damage, even for a Tanker, and my Elec Tanker is set up for Damage and KD.

Its a diffrent playing style using the Tankers I use vs WP/ or Inlvn/ sets.Why dont you try it some time.
harrasment I dont think so when I see nonsense being spouted by others I have the need to point such non sense out. Sorry but lies are never acceptable from where I come from and the people trying to pass them as fact are the most shamefull there are.


 

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yep same person that can get perma hasten and AM at level 22 with just SOs lol.

I wouldn't take anything in this post serious.
Except... you can do the things he was posting about, Lucky. My Fire/Fire is a bit of a nail biter with the +8 sized mobs at +4 (and I would probably avoid it with Malta), so I generally keep him lower, but it is possible, depending on how you have things built. Tanks are supposed to take alphas for a full 8 man team, so it's not improbable.

Not sure what else he said to give you such a grudge, but that post was okay.


Guide: Tanking, Wall of Fire Style (Updated for I19!), and the Four Rules of Tanking
Story Arc:
Belated Justice, #88003
Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
Grey Pilgrim: Fire/Fire Tanker (50), Victory

 

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Except... you can do the things he was posting about, Lucky. My Fire/Fire is a bit of a nail biter with the +8 sized mobs at +4 (and I would probably avoid it with Malta), so I generally keep him lower, but it is possible, depending on how you have things built. Tanks are supposed to take alphas for a full 8 man team, so it's not improbable.

Not sure what else he said to give you such a grudge, but that post was okay.
He has a grudge on me because I claimed that getting Hasten up after a 10 second break was possible on a Radiant Aura Character, and I called it Perma.

Im his kicking post because he is bored, and im fully aware where those 2 extra red bars on my Post Rep came from 2 hours after telling him to stop Stalking me...Thanks Lucky666 for down spamming my Rep, it doesnt bother me.

Anyhow, I seem to be a magnet for A-Holes in the game, and on the Forums, and he is the only one of the nit-pickers thats going over board by harrassing me because I used a term like "Perma" wrong.

Lucky666 is a prime example of why some Lions eat there young.