EvilRyu

Originally Posted by FreckledAvenger

*sigh* For the 27 millionth time, you WILL be able to move HEATs and VEATs to the opposite sides. Just not from day 1. Which, frankly, makes perfect sense. What on earth would a Soldier of Arachnos be doing in Praetoria at the beginning of their career? And as for Khelds, do they even exist natively in Praetoria? I'd say not. What? Logic? How shocking!



I have no idea where you're getting this. The devs made it very clear at HeroCon that side-switching would definitely NOT be a simple switch. That it would involve many choices made over time. I don't understand how you can listen to what their words are, and come to the conclusion that they mean the exact opposite.

Originally Posted by TsumijuZero

I sincerely hope that the Rogue system attributes points to alignment over story arcs, task forces etc over time, would make it a more "personal" thing to stick to an alignment, also serving the purpose of facepalming the logic of "EvilRyu" and his "playerbase of retards" post that should be consigned to the bin in my opinion.

Originally Posted by DumpleBerry

I think it's important to make a distinction between the average player and the players capable of making the completion times you have listed. I have no doubt that a fully-IOd and well-versed player on a similarly equipped and mercilessly coordinated team could power through new GR content without much trouble.

As for me, and for many others in the playerbase, a TF is a difficult and time-consuming undertaking.

Originally Posted by FitzSimmons

What would stop someone from creating a villain archetype, becoming a hero, using WW to build out the toon then switching back over to a Villain?

Have they come out with a reason for not merging the markets? Technical issue? Low priority?

Originally Posted by Flyman

I'm not convinced at all that there will be a mass exodus out of Redside. Some of us actually prefer the redside missions, aren't bothered at all about Merits or care if there's a few more TF's blueside.
If I want to play the blueside content, I play with my Hero. If I want to evil it up, I play with my MM. Sideswitching is done only if it suits the character.

But staying Rogue or Vigilante sounds nifty. Access to both Paragon and Rogue Isles? Yes please! So we can team up with friends no matter which AT's they prefer to play.

Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba

Does anyone else think that this makes even LESS sense than merging the real world markets and have Praetoria have its own market?

Originally Posted by UberGuy

I do have a pretty serious concern about the market aspect. A lot of people have been posting about how they will move their villains out of the Rogue Isles and never look back. They like their villain characters/ATs/powersets, but dislike any of a short laundry list of things about actually playing on the villain side.

If these posts are actually indicative of a large movement, that's going to suck a lot of players out of the villain system My concern is that this is going to take the already relatively anemic villain market and drain even more activity out of it. The markets need a good critical mass of players to remain useful.

What are you going to do if this sort of thing drains away that critical mass?

Originally Posted by Positron

With so much info being laid out so quickly at HeroCon, I figured I'd take an opportunity to clarify a lot of confusing points. My apologies for not being more clear when we first explained them.

• Heroes can become Vigilantes which can then become Villains
• Villains can become Rogues which can then become Heroes
• Thus the circle is Hero->Vigilante->Villain->Rogue->Hero
• This system is usable by any character over X level (X is a number which has yet to be disclosed). It is not "just for Praetorians".
• A Hero can go all the way to Villain and then back to Hero again, if they put in enough effort.
• Praetorians do not use the normal GR system, but have points within their stories where they can choose "Loyalist (aka Villain)" or "Resistance (aka Hero)"
• When Praetorians leave Praetoria for Primal Earth, they choose if they want to be considered a Hero or a Villain, and are plopped into Paragon or the Rogue Isles.
• A Vigilante (Rogue) can travel to the Rogue Isles (Paragon City), and can team up with the Villains (Heroes) there. They can not use the markets while they are there however. They must be a full Villain (Hero) to use the markets.

Pretty sure that covers the info we gave out, including clarifying answers we gave on various panels over the weekend, and answers to specific questions we were asked by players.

Originally Posted by Mr. NoPants

I haz your stuff?

Originally Posted by QuiJon

Sorry so far im dissappinted also.

First off, we have known of atleast these two new power sets for sometime. I am seriously hoping these are not the only two new sets. And why the heck do we not have a Dual Pistols for Dominators. It would be easy enough to use the DPs from the new set, mix in a couple martial arts attacks and make an assualt set it would seem to me. But over all i would expect that they would take the opportunity of the hero-con to introduce more new sets if they were going to exist.

Secondly, graphics... ok fine, i understand wanting to update the system, but honestly just to add things that many players wont probably use, or dont care about, seems like a waste of time. If they truely wanted to see major graphic updates, then why not be working on COH2 instead of an expansion?

Third, IMO the whole Going Rogue system is NOT what they sold to us. I know not alot of info was released, and players start to read things into comments. But IMO the devs have for months now let the players live, comment, and post on these forums with the idea that we were looking at true side switching in GR. Not this half ***** system of basicly becoming an outcast.

All this new system will do is make everyone choose to be nothing. No more heroes, no more villians, everyone will choose to be a rogue or a vigilante because that would be the only way to play both sides. It basicly is just making the game one big co-op zone. I should be able to CHANGE my alliances, not just break my old ones.

Not just that, but this would be the best time in the world to finally just incorperate combining all the markets into one big pool acrossed all the servers. An opprotunity that is being wasted by again having the new origins still have to pay alleigences to either wentworths or the Optimus Prime trucks.

It just seems all this expansion is doing is... well basicly nothing. From what has been announced, we are getting a couple new sets, we are getting a graphical bump, but nothing more. 6 months before villians launced we already knew way more about the game then we do this, and suposedly this was to be as big of a content update as villains was?

I just know at the moment, i would seriously consider NOT purchasing this update if its not manditory, and would consider canceling atleast one of my accounts if it is. I dont want to be a darkish-domintor, i want to be a heroic dominator. I want to fall to the dark side, i dont want to trip into a grey zone.

Right now my money is in question, by this time this comes out i am likely going to be having to choose. Buying two updates for this, play DCUO, or Star Trek Online, or perhaps be close enough to Star Wars TOR that i dont need to be spending more money on this game to get benefits that we have been getting in free content updates for years.

Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake

today was the first day of a two day event describing a expansion several months down the road. Do you really think this was all that is going to be in gr? REALLY?

Originally Posted by je_saist

Let me ask you a question. What is the point of a stalker?

Let me answer that question. The job of a stalker is to do hit and run damage. A stalker hides in the shadows, then pounces a single target, then fades away from view. Proper stalkers hit their prey as hard as they can, then book it to a safe hiding spot.

If you play a stalker right, you should have an experience of an expert assassin. Darting in and removing the lethal and annoying foes. Able to go anywhere and everywhere, past the massive defenses any enemy is able to provide.

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Now, let me ask you another question. What is not a stalkers job?

Let me answer that question as well. A stalkers job is not provide consistent in-mob dps. A stalkers job is not to take aggro for a team, take an alpha strike, or remain in melee combat.

If you are playing a stalker as you would a scrapper, brute, or tank...

YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG

This is one of the reasons why I, personally, loathe tools like MIDS. MIDS does not tell you how a class is supposed to be played, nor what the purpose of a class is.

Actually PLAYING THE GAME will tell you what a class feels like to play.

Of course the numbers on Stalker damage are going to come up shorter than scrapper or brute damage.

But, if you've actually played the game, you'd know that stalkers now get critical chances outside of hide while in a team. The larger the team, the more likely the stalker is to critical if the stalker winds up in a position where it has to do consistent or extended melee combat.

So the line you wrote here:



Is absolutely tripe. You do not understand the point of Hide and Assassin's Strike and the critical capabilities. The developers. DO!

Originally Posted by TRTerror

This is a stalker`?
Also you can switch the animation on the MA AS

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

Look, I don't cry foul lightly. When I see a problem, I try to either work around it, ignore it or just find some way to deal. And initially, when I saw all the reports of too many bosses showing up in missions, I thought they were exaggerated. Bosses started showing up in mission spawns at some point, and some few, rare missions could spawn mostly a boss and a minion. But this wasn't frequent, and when it happened, most of one mission would be bosses, but you'd see almost no bosses in the rest.

Well, since I16 launched, I've been getting ever more slightly irritated at these incessant boss spawns, and more and more convinced that it was never like this even in the worst cases I remember. Before, bosses almost never showed up outside of the named ones required by mission objectives, and missions where they did show up were rare. In the last few days, probably half of the spawns I've fought have been bosses.

Right now, I'm fighting the Carnival of Shadows. Have been for some time. I HATE Master Illusionists because they're so annoying, and Ring Mistresses are dangerous for the character I'm on right now, so you better believe I remember each time I see them. But you know what? I've fought more MASTER Illusionists today than I have Illusionists, and I've fought almost as many Ring Mistresses as I've fought Seneschal. This is officially crossing any sort of reasonable boundaries and going into the twilight zone. Spawn rules have gone completely bonkers.

And it's not like I'm pushing the envelope, either. I'm playing against enemies my level, considering myself equal to two "regular" heroes, fighting bosses but not fighting AVs (or +0x0, +boss, -AV), so you can't say I'm throttling the difficulty and manufacturing my own problems. I'm trying to get as close to the old Tenacious/Malicious as I can, and while that DID spawn bosses, they were incredibly rare. Now I'm as likely to see a Master Illusionist punching her fist as I am to see a Fencer or a Strong Man. This is just far, far too much.

I don't mind fighting bosses. Heck, I was even glad when I learned they were actually spawning. But fighting THIS MANY bosses is just absurd. I'm busting my butt just trying to survive ON A SCRAPPER, and here I am planning to play a Blaster next. How is THAT going to happen when I see a Master Illusionist every other spawn and a Dark Ring Mistress every third? Bosses, especially bosses post 40, ARE NOT EASY. They are certainly a lot harder than 5-6 minions, which is what you can get if you don't face a boss, so you'd think fighting them would be more rare, but when it's rare to NOT fight a boss, something is wrong.

I know the new spawn rules don't correspond to any of the old ones and aren't intended to, but please - let's reign in the bosses some. This is just no fun.

*edit*
Just to emphasise, the universe high-fived me by giving me another boss as soon as I rounded the corner after making this post. So, yeah!

Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha

Now, I'm not saying 'OMG HEATs suck'. A lot of people seem to swear by Tri-form Warshades, and a number of people obviously enjoy playing them.

This is more a question to see if I'm doing anything majorly 'wrong', or wether they get a whole new meaning of 'awesome' at a certain specific point.

Tried both PB and WS to around 20s, got a lil' PB at 19 right now. Just...I don't know what it is. The endurance costs dont seem to help but, then again, no Stamina yet. The damage taken seems extreme, but then this is on DOs.

Anyone else feel burnout come along very quickly on PBs and/or WSs?

Originally Posted by Arbiter Kim

Originally Posted by Futurias

Yeah, I know. This comes up all the time. Just give those poor squishy Blasters, Defenders, (most) Controllers, Kheldians, Corruptors and Master Minds some slightly better, consistant protection.

Now there used to be some really valid points not to. After all, PvP with Mezz Protection was very broken.

But there is no more PvP Mezz Protection, just Mezz Resistance.

So what is the compelling reason to not allow it anymore? So that heroes and villains can be detoggled by minions? (No, they changed that so only offensive toggles really drop.)

So that bosses are a grave threat? I don't know about you guys, but my corruptor gets waxed pretty dang fast by bosses even when I can move. How is suppressing all my protections and not being able to flee more harsh than that?

Now, just to be fair, I'm not advocating that everyone gets tanker-level protection.

In fact, I'd just add two 'lower-tier' protection levels, built into the different ATs Primary or Secondary.

Low Tier: Defenders, Corruptors, Masterminds. +2 or +3 mezz protection at best. Something to make them feel that they are better than generic minions and lts. (This is where Soldiers of Arachnos generally are, IIRC. A little bit gets rid of a lot of frustration, IMO.)

Low-Mid Tier: Blasters and Kheldians. +4 or +5. For the most part, these ATs are actually a bit heavy melee so need just a bit more to survive in melee.

Mid Tier: Scrappers, Brutes and Stalkers. Lives in melee, but is not the primary aggro-magnet, so needs more than those below them.

High Tier: Tankers, of course. (Dwarf Form Khelds should be about here, but probably would be in this new system.)

Let fun triumph over inertia!

(Yes, I'm pretty sure I'll get yelled at that there is no problem, please shut up, yadda yadda yadda. Every time I personally have a problem playing one of these 'no-mezz' characters, I'll be right back here visiting.)

Originally Posted by Castle

The only way I would be ok with build switching without visiting an NPC would be:

• Set Player Health 1
• Set Player Max Regeneration 0, duration 60 seconds.
• Set Player Max Endurance 0, duration 60 seconds.
• Set all powers state to Initial Recharge.
• Wipe all Buffs/Debuff on character.

In other words, we do NOT want players to be able to situationally change power selections.

Originally Posted by Blpup

I made a BS/nin im hoping he will be good in pvp with the double placte so you can use 3 AS in a row

Originally Posted by DocArcus

Sometimes I wonder if they leave little bugs like that just to play with our heads

Originally Posted by Chuckers

Okay.. I know it's trivial.. but WHY hasn't this been fixed? It's been 4 years!!!

The mission from Seer Marino.. Steal Research From Legacy Chain.. the yellow arrow on the ground has NEVER pointed to the right door.. it always points to the door to the mission that you just completed (Steal Wretch's Medical Records).

Maybe I'll bring it up at Hero Con... In fact, I probably will..

Edited to add: Actually, the navigator bar totally gets hosed when that mission is up. I highlighted the base portal on the map and it was north of me on the map.. I had to face south for the marker on the nav compass to show as being in front of me. It's really wierd.. maybe it's NOT such a trivial bug

Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler

For those of you with Stone Armor characters, how attached are you to the current appearance of "Granite Armor"? There are a number of issues with Granite Armor that could be elegantly solved by changing the VFX of the power into something more akin to the other armor toggles in the set. IE, your player model and costume wouldn't go away, there would just be a new set of 'Granite' armor pieces overlaid.

I haven't made any decision to do this, it's just one of the options for dealing with the multiple issues we have with Granite Armor and I wanted to get a sense of how many of you guys wouldn't be able to adapt to a change like this.

Before anyone asks, no...we couldn't have it both ways.