Electric-Knight

I actually did know that (I knew I should have included that, hehe, any time this "feature" comes up, you/everyone/anyone has to make sure the person knows it can be disable... I mean, I agree, you have to make sure, because... yeah, it's nutty ridiculous! Haha).

Although, as you said, some like it.
I was just reacting to that particular image and also wondering why that'd be the default appearance the developers decided upon.
Then again, clearly the entire visual style is just not for me, so what difference does it make, hehe!

Thanks though, Forbin.

Haha, I liked potatoey, even if I'm not positive about why that'd be the word...
Maybe it is because the characters just look like they are made out of plastic. I agree that they are "cartoony" (and, no, not due to the cell shading and lines). The humans/humanoids look like a rubber action figure of Plastic Man for some reason.
Honestly, the game looks somewhat like the Incredibles, more than what I think of as my preferred comicbook style.
Maybe they're "potatoey", because they kinda look like a shiny, plastic Mr. Potato Head (or maybe because they remind you of Toy Story).

Something about the textures, something about the stances and something about the bodies just do not appeal to me. Not only do they not appeal to me, they really, truly turn me off of the game.


So, okay, looking at this example:
It's all matters of opinion, of course, so to each their own, but...
I can understand how someone can say CO's graphics are better. There's greater resolution, finer detail... certainly more shine.
However, this picture, my eyes immediately see the CO character and my brain just scream NO. Something about the puffed out chest, but long (kinda gangly) arms. Hrm, maybes it's actually the sloped shoulders!
But, again, the greater details? They make it look worse to me, somehow. Likely due to the plasticy sheen maybe? Regardless... ACK MY EYES... those black outlines... just why? I stopped leaving outlines on my drawings when I was in grade school, heehee.
Anyway, I honestly didn't mean to make fun. There's nothing wrong with liking either one better than the other. My preference just happens to lie with the CoH style.
I have to admit, I was always a fan of the Sega Genesis and its graphics (for the time) and, while I love me some truly great graphics, if it's not super realistic, I prefer generic and less detail, so my imagination can make it look better, rather than super detailed, but not what I'd like.

For any Sega Genesis fans... something about CoH always feels a bit Sega Genesis-ishy... even the game play, really. Hm... odd.

Even the power of Depp's draw can only help so much.

PM sent! (with a lot of disclaimers and background and some links too, depending on how interested you are, lol)

I only have a very simple hack job page linked on my website, which is linked in my sig.
The project is called Technology Dogs. Eventually, I will have some background videos, promos and stuff (possibly a kickstarter) as it gets a little further along.
The page I have right now just has a little synopsis and a couple of pictures, but I plan to have some sneaks of a few songs coming within a few weeks. I've been talking and reporting about this project on Facebook more than the website.
(And yes, I need to fix up that website, lol)
Some of my music is on the site and, while similar, the music of this show is a bit darker and a little more visceral (but still falls in line with the scope I tend to do, even if that is broad anyway). Modern Pink Floydish, with a bit of a growl (add a touch of male Bjork and The Doors)... maybe.
Anyway, I should save that for PMs...

That could be terrific! (wish I checked back here, instead of just checking on New Posts in the forums, sooner!)
We'll talk more about this and see what works and if you're interested!
At the very least, I've figured I'd have a few different teams working on different parts needed. So, there are some small things (and some large things) that I'll need to get done, so every little bit is amazing help. Thanks for the interest! We'll chat soon!

Excellent!
I'm sort of working overtime right now, hoping that it'll free up a little bit of time to make some CoH stuff soon. I know I will do a few things, but it's just a question of if I have the time to do the big thing(s) that I want to!

Looking forward to the next video... and to talking more!

You see, we can completely agree to reasonable opinions and personal stances. There is no argument there.
I've not attacked or argued with anyone who understands that the odds are not in our favor and that they don't believe it will happen and/or aren't interested in doing much (if anything) to change the outcome themselves. We came here to play a game, not spend time and energy fighting for something we're likely to lose anyway. Do what you feel is right and what is best for you and yours, no doubt.

However, if you look at the words of people stating that their position of deriding people who've taken the stance that they're willing to put more effort in, you'll see the blatant insults. "Delusional" is bandied around aplenty.
There's nothing delusional about it.
You can say we have no leverage, but it's not entirely true.
People do have leverage and that is all we are doing - attempting to apply any and all leverage that we can. It matter-of-factly may not be anywhere near enough...
But, to use your analogy...
That pipsqueak fighting the overwhelming bully is not necessarily doing so in vain. Maybe they can win the fight... probably not. However, maybe winning the fight isn't the most important thing. Maybe their defiance and good-hearted efforts will lead to other turn of events. The true success of battle is not in the physical fight, but in the conquering of minds and hearts. You can change people's minds and positions. You can influence others to do wonderful things. You never know until you try... but, honestly, it's not about that. It's simply about doing what one feels is right and true.

Your example is precisely what was in the Captain America movie. When the little pipsqueak Steve Richards refused to back down and got his butt handed to him... did you want to stand up and mock him and tell him to stop, because there's no use?

Now, don't take any flaws with the anaology against me... it's your analogy, but that's how I see this situation in the analogy that you've shared.

Beyond the personal aspects, the efforts being put forth can certainly have impact on the mmorpg landscape, both for customers/players and for companies to consider what this entire industry is about, what it means and how to go about these things. At its very least, it draws attention, and adds, to that discussion of what mmo communities are about.

There's nothing delusional about any of that.

Lastly, the major thing going on right now is... NCSoft's latest announcement/reply to us has had some people change their minds (in both directions, actually).
However, nothing actually changed. They told us on August 31t that it was over, period.
They released another announcement a few days ago, in response to our efforts saying, that it really is over, period.
If you can read their latest announcement and believe that they sincerely put in a good effort and truly wanted to sell the game, IP and studio, but couldn't, more power to you. If you truly believe exactly what they said in that press release, then that is where we differ. As far as I see, it is just a PR spin. They publicly implied that they cared and that they wanted to help, but have "exhausted" their efforts.
I just think, for the most part, they wanted to shut us up, stop our drawing attention in the media and be done with us.
So, we got their attention. And we believe we can do more and we can do better and our efforts simply have not been exhausted yet.
It's as simple as that.
Anyone who believed we might make a difference on August 31st should not be swayed, one bit, by the latest words from NCSoft.
That's all.
That last reply was damage control PR spin. I don't say that as though it's a major storm for them. It could be, but could very well be rather insignificant to them. Our goal is to raise the volume as much as we can and find out.
If we can push them a little, maybe we can push them more. And maybe it'll make a difference.
No difference between August 31 and now, regarding any of that.

Unfortunately none that I know of.
You have to either demo record it or refer to a list of MOVs and such and find the right one.

We really should all work together to create a master list of not only MOVs and FX, but also, as you mention, what MOVs (animations) go with what Powers.

There is the CoH Codex, here: http://home.roadrunner.com/~scuzzbopper/
But, as far as I know, it's not been updated in a long while and wasn't complete at the time.

Not sure if anyone has been at work on larger, more comprehensive lists...

Aww, hehe, I didn't expect anyone to be serious in here, and I probably shouldn't reply, because I don't want to encourage such things in this thread, but...

Thank you very much, ma'am!

Hehe, that's honestly the only way I know how to be. I mean, I strive to be respectful, but I just listen to what I feel is right and no odds or obstacles and no criticisms are enough to dissuade me from making attempts that I feel are worth it when I believe it is the right thing to do and/or when I think something is wrong and I just might be able to steer it in a better direction (or possibly even all the way around).

Eh, I'm prepared for failure. I don't fear that at all. I can handle a hell of a lot worse than my favorite game being gone (although, I feel more for other people in worse situations and for the community's existence more so).
I find it somewhat laughable that people will say that other people are delusional and ill-equipped to handle such loss (so I/we will suffer worse for it when it is all said and done), when it is just the small matter that it is. Why would I fall apart afterward?? I don't need to guard myself against this failure. I can handle it, hehe. I could point that around and turn it on those who say such things, but it's all just nonsense anyway.

I don't fear failure, hehe, I've already felt it. I welcome the fight!

Hey, everyone picks their own fights, no doubt. I was speaking to the majority of people (and I'd think you'd agree), but yeah, no doubt, the context aimed things at people citing "reality" as their explanation for our "denial".
That's just it. People can pick and choose their own levels of interest all they want, as they so very well should. There's nothing cowardly about that at all.
However, once it becomes a matter of "anyone that would bother trying is in denial and doesn't grasp reality", they're not simply staying out of it.
Even warriors must sometimes choose not to fight.
As my comments pointed out, I don't begrudge anyone for their focuses. However, insulting other people's focus just brings out the mirror. Looking at the string of quotes, I see that I responded to a post that was responding to a snippet of yours, but your post does not contain the outright negativity and judgment and certainly was not the aim of my words.

I simply spoke of the majority of people not understanding the truth in what Ironblade said.
Still, anyone who wishes, may take offense to what I said. Any backhanded slur that you glean from that was not intended for every single person that believes there's no hope. I can't take back what I said, but I do not mean to be disrespectful, so I apologize if that is the taken result.

Doh! Revenue, yes. I sincerely apologize as I made a mistake. I thought this was a number based on those guesstimate average salary numbers I'd seen before (this being revenue though, that was just a brain failure moment on my part).
I was honestly surprised, because it seemed like it'd be the last thing you'd do... Hah! I guess there was a reason for that!
Again, my apology! I stand corrected.
And, for the record, I've never had anything to do with any business numbers in the past. It's not my thing nor my interest. And none of what I was saying was pro this or pro that. I was just surprised and confused... but, that is because I was wrong!

Sees the word revenue clearly now, lol.

Remember, most people do not walk that path. They take what they get, do what they're supposed to do and move along the supplied paths, fitting their own interests and oddities between the cracks of society's demands when and where they can.

I'm not insulting anyone for that. It's just the truth. That is the majority of people. If they're happy with that, I can't argue with them for it. I'm happy being me and I'm happy to help others be what they want to be. I have no interest in wasting my time defending my own decisions and approaches to things, especially when most of them don't even respond to the details I offer. Some of them will carry on, but I recognized that it is simply something a great many people can't relate to.
Judging though... that comes as a free right that won't put most of them outside of their comfort zone.

Anyway, yep, that is how the world works.
Whether I get the changes I want or not, my efforts and actions will speak for themselves and hopefully influence things toward the direction I wish it to go. And we adapt and change and/or stand firm as we choose. Not as my neighbor chooses for me, hehe.

I think it is odd that you attack others for using numbers that you don't think are true, but you're throwing around that 800k estimate as fact... and it is not.
I'm not joining in the debate about how small of a chunk CoH and/or the western market is within NCSoft's stable of games, but - unless I am mistaken - that 800k mark was whipped up with a bunch of guesstimates on things that we have no idea about and, more importantly, it used salary figures using all of the Paragon Studios staff and tied it to CoH, which is completely incorrect (even if the guesses on the average salary were close at all).

I have no issue with you personally and I have no problem with what you're saying other than throwing around that figure as a matter of fact.
It's not doing me harm, but it's spreading falsehood and possibly making you look a bit silly!

There is zero inability about it, but you keep judging all you like, mate.

I've discovered, in life, that many people seem to want to emulate some of Bill Paxton's more obnoxious characters.

Disappointment happened the moment they made the first announcement.
What we do from then on simply defines what we want and how much we're willing to do to attempt to influence things to make it happen.

Honestly, I'm not convinced that things are very different now than they were before their most recent announcement.
So, on August 31st, they told us they were shutting it down.
We rallied, we made noise, we spread the word, they gave us an email address and we continued and they publicly addressed our efforts and mentioned the selling of the game, the IP and the studio. While their mention included that they'd exhausted such efforts, I just think it is great that they made mention of what we were seeking in their public address.
The things that they said don't really come off as fully believable (having a special place in their hearts for the company they sent packing with zero notice in the middle of all of this great work they'd done and had in store for us, shutting things down and preventing further account adjustments, preventing the developers from being able to do a proper sendout... and they say they want it to end on a "high note"? Hah! And then, after all of this, we're supposed to believe that efforts of good faith were made to sell and keep the team, the game and the community alive? After only a few weeks? What sort of efforts were made? Were any even at all? Or did they exhaust those possibilities before even making any attempts?).
Now we have the doom criers out and the news outlets saying the same thing they said August 31st. It's done. It's over.
We made them take notice and they responded.
We'll continue to do what we're doing. We'll step it up in some ways and we will see if they take notice some more. And some more. And some more. Until we exhaust our efforts. There is still some time before all hope is lost for further Paragon members' involvement. That certainly is the huge loss here, zero question.
However, we're not done yet. And there is still more we can get, below the best case scenario (regardless of who is or isn't interested in it).

No. I see things as being rather the same as before, but one big difference.
We're stronger now.
We managed to change the press coverage around to display what this community is about. And we managed to reach NCSoft and have them respond to us.
We're going to do our best to reach them all again and we hope to change their minds. It may not work. We all knew this from day one.
Never trying would result in failure anyway. We have nothing to lose, but our own integrity if we don't do what we feel we must.

You don't fail until you stop trying.
Even beyond just this game, this dev team and this community, we have something to fight for.
The fact that we don't think this was the right way to handle this situation.
It's their prerogative to handle it the way they want and it is our prerogative to respond how we want. And, I can only speak for myself when I say that, I want to continue to show our commitment to the same exact stance we took on August 31, because, that is what I believe is right.

I want to get an Atlas Park 34 up on Saturday.
Help us make it so.

I believe so.
I'll see about throwing the official Bat signal up tomorrow!

This, my friends.
And let the petty insults a few send our way be absorbed by the masses of us who stand together.

I do believe it is time for a unity rally this Saturday... I'ma get to work on making that a go.