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The problem is not caused by those farming, it is caused by those who 'demand' people to experience the game they same way they did years ago.

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THIS IN A NUTSHELL !!!

Well said.

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Well, if you didn't like it and it was a farm I hope all y'all reported it as such by using the already in place report function?

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No-one likes a Grass.

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Nonsense.

If you can't see the damage allowing a "Get to 50 for no risk in a few days" which is freely available to all new players does to the long term life of a game there's no point even talking to you.

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This is not a debate about whether PowerLeveling has a damaging effect to the game, there are plenty of those debates already, feel free to start a new thread on it if you like.

This is an objection to suggestions of removing content that other people enjoy, those who don't enjoy it can easily avoid it, otherwise it's none of their business, I would have thought you of all people would have been able to tell the difference between the two and see the point I was getting at.

Plus if you wanna go down the route of ~
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there's no point even talking to you.

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I would say to be fair my comments were aimed at the OP and would question why you were talking to me in the first place, BUT, I'd rather not go down that route so I'll ignore the last quoted statement.

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Hello all.

Yes I'm being highly dramatic and yes, I am aware it ain't ever gonna happen.

I'm just despairing of the game right now and really wish I hadn't paid my subs up until November.

I can honestly say that people 'playing how they want to play, it's their money' is ruining my enjoyment of the game.

I've tried to create teams at varying times and am finding the numbers dwindling each time I do so.

I've put 'no farms/powerlevelling/fills' in my search and still I get invites to MA farms.

I believed there was going to be some kind of crackdown on it but there hasn't been one yet. If there's one thing worse than having to issue a threat, it's not following through on said threat.

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So, my suggestion!

The MA is moved to Talos Island and above. And not right next to the station but somewhere difficult to get to (perhaps not Circe Island...)

Mobs are 'unlocked' by experiencing the levels at which they appear. So rather than being a level 1 and able to create a Carnie mish, that group should become available at level 30.

I know this doesn't work now that there are quite a number of 50s floating around who managed to do it in a stupidly small amount of time but if the action were actually to be taken (i.e. characters deleted, slots banned etc) then it might go some way to turning the game back to what it was in i13.

i.e. fun

Even if GR comes out and is amazing, I won't be surprised to see more 50s powerlevelled through MA and a distinct lack of teaming spirit (except through the powerlevel farms) becoming the norm.

That is all.

Ahem.

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IF YOU DONT LIKE MA - DON'T USE IT, OTHERWISE STOP SUGGESTING CONTENT THAT OTHERS MAY BE HAPPY WITH GETS CHANGED. - YOU MAKE ME SICK.

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What? I can't hear you, speak up!

Having experienced it last night the Green Bubbles thing is ridiculous altogether. Especially that it's still up there and Paragon Studios haven't fixed it yet.

Boss farms etc I've no problems with at all really, each to their own but the Green Mitos are another matter. The Risk/Reward ratio is basically 0.

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My point remains, don't like it... Don't do it.
Otherwise, it's none of their concern.

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Hello all.

Yes I'm being highly dramatic and yes, I am aware it ain't ever gonna happen.

I'm just despairing of the game right now and really wish I hadn't paid my subs up until November.

I can honestly say that people 'playing how they want to play, it's their money' is ruining my enjoyment of the game.

I've tried to create teams at varying times and am finding the numbers dwindling each time I do so.

I've put 'no farms/powerlevelling/fills' in my search and still I get invites to MA farms.

I believed there was going to be some kind of crackdown on it but there hasn't been one yet. If there's one thing worse than having to issue a threat, it's not following through on said threat.

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So, my suggestion!

The MA is moved to Talos Island and above. And not right next to the station but somewhere difficult to get to (perhaps not Circe Island...)

Mobs are 'unlocked' by experiencing the levels at which they appear. So rather than being a level 1 and able to create a Carnie mish, that group should become available at level 30.

I know this doesn't work now that there are quite a number of 50s floating around who managed to do it in a stupidly small amount of time but if the action were actually to be taken (i.e. characters deleted, slots banned etc) then it might go some way to turning the game back to what it was in i13.

i.e. fun

Even if GR comes out and is amazing, I won't be surprised to see more 50s powerlevelled through MA and a distinct lack of teaming spirit (except through the powerlevel farms) becoming the norm.

That is all.

Ahem.

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IF YOU DONT LIKE MA - DON'T USE IT, OTHERWISE STOP SUGGESTING CONTENT THAT OTHERS MAY BE HAPPY WITH GETS CHANGED. - YOU MAKE ME SICK.

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Hello, just a quick suggestion based on the 5 farms I've been invited to so far this week (despite saying clearly in search that I didn't want a part of it).

I would like to see the removal of all Hamidon-related mobs (i.e. Mitochondria, etc).

I don't see why they're in there.
They serve no purpose.

Family at 40-54 also make no sense to me. Yes there's one mission later on set in 'Family World' but that's it.

That is all.

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Ho Ho!!! ~ Did you post that and then bend over waiting for me to read it?!

How about we don't remove the mobs the YOU don't like, because this whole blinking game is about pleasing YOU! isn't it !!

So before you jump up and down in a hissyfit why don't you check your not going to stamp on people's toes before you do so.

How would you like a suggestion that says remove whatever it is that you enjoy in the game...

I have a suggestion for you, but this is a family game and I would probably be banned if I posted it.

Here's a cheap IO build of the same powers, tried to use cheaper IO's and go for more individual power %'s overall bonuses are a bonus.

Shouldn't cost the earth either.


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well to be honest funds are not all that brilliant, but if you can give me an idea for whatever you think would be best, and i can basically work towards it

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Here's a quick one that should cover all the bases and get you started at low cost,, later on you could sub a travel power for aid self.

I can redo one with cheap IO's and then another with expensive ones if you like.

Or also ask Jessica Raven, I know she has a very effective Invul/SS but again I think that she spent a fair bit.


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How much do you have to spend on slotting?
Or would you like a basic SO build?

Anyone have a cheap cheap build for a villain farmer, ss/wp or fm/wp please...

Costs will have to be at a minumum until established then I can respec into a better build.

@ work, but ty for the info 8)

Can anyone tell me roughly how much the PvP IO's and Purples are going for at the moment redside??

Ones I would like to know about,

Gladiator Armour,
Gladiator Strike
Hecatomb
Apocalypse
Gravitational Anchor
Absolute Amazement
Ragnarok


Thanki for any info you can come up with.

How do I work out DR?

If i have 90% res in Pve what will it be in a PvP Zone etc etc...

Is there a formula that will allow me to work it out please.

Illusion emps are great as healing does not break hide.
I think that the rule is, no dmg = hide not broken.

So...

Does debuffing break hide? for example - Enervating field and Lingering from rad set.

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Carnifax ~ "Given that it's stated that it is for people to see that there's other content available in the game I'd take it to mean to combat excessive PLing and Farming by new people. Which I agree with. Don't mind someone getting to 20 or 30 or 40 in a few hours. I do mind said 20/30/40 not knowing where the train lines are, how to slot their characters or what any of their powers do because they've been in the protective cocoon of 10 Allied Bubblers for their entire mission life, or been protected by a Level 50 team-mate.

You already know there's other content out there, know your powers and are an ebil farmer anyway so you're probably safe"

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I understand and agree with you on this Carnifax, but I get very defensive when people suggest things that would effect what left of the game that I enjoy.

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Night_Hornet~ "Carnifax is right the main reason for my post was to make a suggestion which would ensure that players (yes, I guess it was mostly aimed at new players) experience the game beyond MA, in no way did I want to open up another farming debate and whether I farm or not has nothing to do with the suggestion.

However I really do not see the need for such an agressive reply to the thread and I will say no more on the matter and I will ask for this thread to be closed."

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I was not starting a farming debate, I am just making it clear that your suggestion as nice as well intentioned as it is, steps on the toes of other players.

You want a simple suggestion to cure noob 50's?

Restrict MA building to Vets. 3 , 6, 9 months+ Something like that, so you are not penalizing players that know the game inside out because they have created a new toon.

Apologies if this came across harsh, but it's something I feel strongly about.

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In order to combat PLing and farming further, how about a mandatory arc?

Of course there are already tailor/cape/aura missions, but these are not mandatory. But I was thinking more along the lines of an arc or mission that must be completed in order to attain a certain level. This would ensure that players have to experience some of the game outside of MA.

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How about [censored] !

If you are not a farmer, dont farm!

don't sit and scheme up ways to ruin other people's fun.

How about this suggestion, keep your stupid comments to yourself!

How would you like it if I were to make suggestions specifically designed to hinder the part of the game that you enjoy?!!

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I think you're misreading the intention of the suggestion Donna.

The idea is to let new players know there are other zones with other content out there. It's not really an anti-farming measure, more of a "Why not see if you like this content too" measure.

Like the (much loathed) "Go off and see Wincott" mission you get at the start of CoH. Which is why it's a bit of a no from me I'm afraid. I'm a chronic alter and I hate it every time when I'm sent off to Wincott around level 6.

To be honest personally I'd remove the MA buildings from all levels less than 10 (so Steel, Skyway and Cap Au would be the first places they'd be) and the MA Architect wouldn't be added as a contact until level 15.

That way anyone new can explore the first few zones and the basics of combat &amp; levelling before being introduced to the MA, but any Vet in the know who wants to avoid the crappy early levels can easily run to the Steel MA (or Cap Au one) and PL themselves to whatever level they want to (like out of the first 12 for example, Brutes are a nightmare until DOs).

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This part may have been misleading then, but not sure how else to take "In order to combat PLing and farming"

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In order to combat PLing and farming further, how about a mandatory arc?

Of course there are already tailor/cape/aura missions, but these are not mandatory. But I was thinking more along the lines of an arc or mission that must be completed in order to attain a certain level. This would ensure that players have to experience some of the game outside of MA.

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How about [censored] !

If you are not a farmer, dont farm!

don't sit and scheme up ways to ruin other people's fun.

How about this suggestion, keep your stupid comments to yourself!

How would you like it if I were to make suggestions specifically designed to hinder the part of the game that you enjoy?!!

OH what a great idea for a thread!!!

Mine would have to be...

SuperSpeed - Run at 92.5 mph!? That has to be fun.
Telekinesis - Hold + Repel anyone/thing, hell yes pls!
Superior Invisibility - Think everyone would like this at some point.

Does anyone know if there is a chance that mids hero builder is due an update? Who looks after it now that he has left?

I would love to see the PvP Io's etc and new figures that were tweaked for PvP in the build....

It's the best planner available, I'm amazed that it's creator was not working for NCSoft!

Anyhow.. is there any news on this? I know that there must be alot of work involved in updating it, but there are so many people who rely on it i'm sure i'm not the only one that would jump for joy at an update.

Dunno about you, but I find my build pretty tight on slots, I now have to sacrafice travel powers slots and the odd 3rd slot recharge to fit in the "must haves" - May I suggest an accolade power that allows you 1 more special slot, that can be placed in any power even if there is 6 in it already?

For example in Knockout Blow I could have a full set of Hecatomb and upon gaining thi saccolade I would place my special slot in there to allow me another Acc IO, or Dmg Proc etc etc.

Maybe like the cossie slots there could be more than 1 available, but each power could only take 1 special slot at most.

I posted a suggestion like this yesterday, look at MiniSpec.

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Wow thats really lousy thats the same damg power pool attacks deal lol

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Your a controller... consult your brawl index.

It's every time. and its only him.

I know all this,

There are brutes out there that hit alot harder alot more often and they don't knock me back, but this 1 toon does, and neither of us can work out why.

Even Sniff can't knock me down, but some some reason this /elec can. and he's not packing anything special.

It's not stacking btw
we tested it, 1 KOblow hit = me on the floor.

Ever wished you could move a slot from 1 power to another the same as you do on mids? Or you think that IO would be better placed somewhere else?

How about another type of respec?
How about an Adjustpec?

Change up to 4 powers and 6 slots or remove up to 10 IO's from your build into your tray.

Small task to allow this, something like a cross between the respec trial and the Aura but with a minumum number allowed so it can't be solo'd

I suggest, the Adjustpec


Thoughts?