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Illusion emps are great as healing does not break hide.
I think that the rule is, no dmg = hide not broken.

So...

Does debuffing break hide? for example - Enervating field and Lingering from rad set.


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Illusion emps are great as healing does not break hide.
I think that the rule is, no dmg = hide not broken.

So...

Does debuffing break hide? for example - Enervating field and Lingering from rad set.

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Yep, they do. Debuffs give you aggro & hence will break the Invis.

Heals, buffs and pet summons won't break Invis as far as I know. With Pet Summons the initial casting won't get you aggro, but you can quickly gain it from the pets actions (summoning Spectral Terror won't aggro but the fears he then throws out will gain you some).


 

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As far as i'm aware, if you apply any affect to your target, then stealth/invis breaks.

Eg: while Freezing Rain (which deals damage) on my Illu/Storm naturally breaks hide, so does Snow Storm, which deals no damage.

Edit: Confuse is a special case, and it says as much in it's detailed info


 

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Sleep doesn't break hide either... which makes it a perfect power for the MoSTF/MoLRSF.


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Sleep doesn't break hide either... which makes it a perfect power for the MoSTF/MoLRSF.

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Mezmerise does but not Mass Hypnosis and the AVs have low res to sleep.


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Sleep?zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz? Not possible on an Ill troller.

Anyways, overall all powers that affect critters break stealth - so mesmerize does because it has a damage component. Also all debuffing powers do break hide. Confuse doesn't as it has a "sneacky" effect. Sleep/confuse powers which don't damage, don't break stealth. Funny enough Mass Confusion from plant seem to causes agro (hence break stealth), although it doesn't do damage. Then again Mass Confusion from Mind control doesn't break stealth.
Confusing eh?


 

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Think that the Mind Control Confuses (Confuse and Mass Confuse) plus the AoE sleep (Mass Hypnosis) all say in their power description that they cause no agro, so its most likely that it's the agro part that breaks stealth (Any power that causes agro breaks stealth...) but I don't really know.


 

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Illusion emps are great as healing does not break hide.


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But if you're healing others then it's more than likely someone else has already taken the aggro for you


 

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Sleep?zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz? Not possible on an Ill troller.

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Illusion/Trick Arrow...
Poison Gas Arrow...
Ranged AoE, Foe -DMG, Sleep
-20% Dmg Buff to Target(s) (To all DMG for 20 Sec)
Mag 2 Sleep, 11.2 Sec PvE / 4 Sec PvP (66% Chance)


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Illusion emps are great as healing does not break hide.


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But if you're healing others then it's more than likely someone else has already taken the aggro for you

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Sleep?zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz? Not possible on an Ill troller.

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Illusion/Trick Arrow...
Poison Gas Arrow...
Ranged AoE, Foe -DMG, Sleep
-20% Dmg Buff to Target(s) (To all DMG for 20 Sec)
Mag 2 Sleep, 11.2 Sec PvE / 4 Sec PvP (66% Chance)

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That's specifically /TA, not ill we're talking. Besides the sleep component of posion gas arrow hardly ever works and the power completely breaks stealth.


 

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Sleep?zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz? Not possible on an Ill troller.

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Illusion/Trick Arrow...
Poison Gas Arrow...
Ranged AoE, Foe -DMG, Sleep
-20% Dmg Buff to Target(s) (To all DMG for 20 Sec)
Mag 2 Sleep, 11.2 Sec PvE / 4 Sec PvP (66% Chance)

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That's specifically /TA, not ill we're talking. Besides the sleep component of posion gas arrow hardly ever works and the power completely breaks stealth.

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Technically Illusion does have a wee chance of Sleep in that odd spill-over sleep the single target hold can do to targets close to the original.

Not that it's of any use in terms of mezzing someone whilest remaining hidden of course.


 

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Raaarr, technically you are right. I stand corrected. Blind does have has a minor sleep component indeed, but it does break stealth anyway.