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Yes, there are two phases you gotta do in under 8 mins. The first time is when the telepathists show up for the first time and the second time is when Maelstrom shows up with the telepathists.
The way that I've been most succesful at getting this badge is by sending everyone inside and completely ignoring the telepathists and Maelstrom. Pull mobs to HD with one team and the other two teams should be hitting techs as soon as they are free. -
Quote:This is a meaningless paragraph that does nothing to further the discussion. You can boast all you want but I will remain unimpressed as I've gotten the same badges you have... twice.Originally Posted by Arcanaville
I invented the fastest three-box Empath farm to get that badge at its original level of one billion points of healing. While running that farm I studied critter AI and power activation. My power activation studies eventually led to the Arcanatime theory (which I confirmed while farming Immortal, actually). My critter AI investigations eventually led me to help the devs fix a long-standing critter AI attack bug.
The fact that you have to preface your badge earning with "I did it when it was..." is a sign of how much nerfing has happened.Quote:Originally Posted by Arcanaville
When I look at my Empath badge, I see a uniquely invented farm, the method by which everyone calculates attack chains today, and the current way all standard critters attack in the game. That's what one of my badges "measures." I believe I've earned the right to have an opinion on whether a badge's requirements make reasonable sense or not that doesn't question my appreciation for dedication.
The only good thing anyone has said about badge nerfing is that it opens it up to newcomers and is less intimidating. Old badge hunters are leaving game so new blood is always a good thing.
I've gotten all the master badges so all the requirements are reasonable as I'm not the best player nor the best leader. I'm able to gather enough people to form a 24 person TPN, BAF, UG Keyes, or 16 people for Lam, MoM , lead them through and get most if not all the badges. Most often it's half people I know and half PuG. The people I know might be carrying the league but I doubt it. It's all about the AAR: After Action Report. If you fail, figure out what went wrong and fix it. If you succeed, figure out what was right and make it better.
My point is that if you can't get enough people together to get the badges that you want than perhaps it's your leadership that is lacking more than it's that the badges are too hard. Look inward before you look outward. How is it that I regularly succeed where seemingly everyone in this thread regularly fails? I don't know but I can assure you that I'm no Churchill. -
You are all trivializing badging. Everything in this game is easy. I've always used badges as a measurement for dedication. It is now failing as that measurement because you all are complaining about how hard it is. Of course it's hard, if it was easy it wouldn't be worth getting. You can be frustrated, irritated, agitated, or down-right infuriarated but don't tell the devs to nerf more badges cause that makes everyone a loser and puts the game on easy mode. And if you wanna play games on easy mode, go get yourself a My Little Pony game and get outta here cause you're ruining it for everyone else.
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"...rue the day..." he said... who makes right-handed cups anyway?!?
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Your data is unreliable. You are not controlling for any variables that determine drop rates outside of completing the trial. Any conclusions you may draw based on this fundamentally flawed data are wrong or right by accident.
Edit: Unless the devs divulge drop rate determination, this exercise on any data set, dev provided or no, is just that, an exercise. -
Ice/Ice blaster will keep them slowed and at range.
Take hover and unless they can fly, you'll be fine. soft cap your ranged and aoe defense you're golden on just about anything you want. -
My strategies with reasonable amount of success:
First and foremost, make sure everyone is reading league (or whatever channel you're using). Failure is assured if this is not observed.
Quote:Designate a group of damage dealers as the lichen defeaters. Four or five is generally enough. I usually assign it to an (set of) AT(s) (scrappers or blasters generally). Give them " /macro Lich targetcustomnear regernative" to assist in targeting. Everyone else should focus on the AV ignoring the adds. Use the temps liberally. Pulling the second AV to the SE corner is a good strategy, this minimizes the amount of lichens in range of the AV.Originally Posted by Kotchie
Regenerate This - Defeat the Self-Repairing and Lichen Infested War Walkers within 8 minutes of starting the fight.
Assign one or two targeted healers (emp, pain, thermal) to babysit her. She should hang out in the back of the group for only small sections of the trial (proxy areas). The only time this should really be an issue is in the crystal room. I recommend focusing on two crystals at a time, this seems to focus enough damage to get through the crystals and you're not spreading yourself too thin. I generally get through this without her falling below 80%.Quote:Originally Posted by Kotchie
Tour Guide - Don't let Desdemona's health go below 50% during the Underground Incarnate Trial.
This is the hardest part imo. This requires that everyone is paying attention to chat instructions. I will instruct everyone to stay behind me at all times. I will call the target in league (/macro Tar say >>> $target <<<) and call a charge. I watch the map and call it once I feel I've at least 2/3rds the league right behind me. It is essential that whomever is escorting Des at this point to remain in the back, her demons wander willy nilly about and could trigger a proxy mine. Don't lolly gag too much as people will get impatient and trigger happy. The first couple of bombs are spaced out so that's a good place to make sure everyone is on the same page. If you notice that the bomb is being triggered early or your count is getting below seven-ish before you've defeated it, don't hesitate to reemphasize the details.Quote:Originally Posted by Kotchie
Preservation Specialist - Don't let any of the IDF bombs detonate in the Underground Incarnate Trial.
The "gauntlet" is where most of my runs have failed on this badge. I've found the best way is to split into 3 teams. Team 1 and 2 should be mostly melee damage. Team 3 should be concentrated on high damage range ATs. I assign team 1 to the left side of the hall, team 2 to the right side of the hall, and team 3 too attack the closest bomb, that is help the team that is furthest "behind." Team 3 can use "/macro Bomb targetcustomnear demolition" to help in targeting. I always emphasize that no bombs should be skipped and that no one should move to the next bomb until the one they are targeting is defeated. That way everyone moves as a unit.
This one is part luck and part planning. Bombs spawn about every 30 seconds and are spawned for 10 seconds. The final AV must be defeated within the 10 seconds the bomb is spawned to earn this badge. The league leader should pay attention to these timers in the trial window. I will generally give directions in team chat for my team to hold attacking to try and time AV defeat to get the badge.Quote:Originally Posted by Kotchie
Avatar Assassin - Defeat the Avatar of Hamidon at the same time as an IDF bomb in the Underground Incarnate Trial.
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Quote:You are a badger if you've one toon with over 800 badges.
800-1,100: Committed Badge Collector. This group had to have switched sides and have gone out of their way to get most of both sides badges.
You are a hardcore badger if you've two or more toons with over 800 badges.
EDIT: Let me expand... prior to going rogue, many badgers created two badgers, one for hero side badging and one for villian side badging. I seriously salute those who carried on with both badgers once going rogue came along. -
Quote:Translation: Put the "I" back in team because everyone knows that when you say "MMORPG" you're actually intending to type "MORPG."Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Ok, here are a couple:
Lambda:
Antacid Badge - Get 10 Molecular Acids and no Pacification Grenades in the sabotage phase, but don't use them. You aren't allowed to use any Molecular Acids during the fight with Marauder, but you can collect and use Pacification Grenades.
Well-Stocked Badge - Get 10 Pacification Grenades and no Molecular Acids in the sabotage phase, but don't use them. You aren't allowed to use any Pacification Grenades during the fight with Marauder, but you can collect and use Molecular Acids.
Keyes:
Loves a Challenge - Complete the Keyes Island Reactor Trial without you being defeated during the final battle with Anti-Matter, but you need to be in the battle area for the duration of the fight.
Avoids the Green Stuff Badge - Don't be caught by an Obliteration Beam in the final battle with Anti-Matter during the Keyes Island Reactor Trial, but you need to be in the battle area for the duration of the fight.
Tin Mage:
Midnight Dodger What Dodges at Midnight Badge - Take no damage from proximity mines during the warehouse battle in the first mission of the Tin Mage Mark II Task Force, but you need to be in the warehouse for the duration of the fight.
MoSTF, MoRSF, MoITF, Mo5th TF, Mo5th SF, MoLGTF:
You need to be active in all the missions without being defeated. You are not dependent on everyone else not being defeated. -
If you're only bringing bots, bring a bubbler, sonic, emp and thermal, 3 fenders and corr: Bubbler and sonic for the PBAoE bubble and sonic's disruption field, emp for the heal and the thermal for forge... just a first impression. And if you're feeling really frisky, might as well put an SBer in there.
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I use targeting macros quite a bit... and I've created a popmenu that creates targeting macros for me so I'm not either really clutter with macros or continually updating a macro. I've not completed it but it's a good start. I clearly don't have all the TFs but it will be updated as they come up either as the WST or as I need them for badges/accolades.
Code:// Popmenu for TF Macro creation -- "MacroCreater" // @Dogma 07/24/2011 // Menu "MacroCreater" { Title "Macro Creater" Divider Option "Generic Targeter" "macro Targ targetcustomnext" Option "Target Caller -- Team" "macro TCall g >>>> $target <<<<" Option "Target Caller -- League" "macro LCall lc >>>> $target <<<<" Option "Target Caller -- Current" "macro Call say >>>> $target <<<<" Divider Menu "Behavorial Adjustment Facility -- BAF" { Title "BAF" Divider Option "Nightstar" "macro NS targetcustomnext nightstar" Option "Siege" "macro Siege targetcustomnext siege" Option "Lt Resistance" "macro LTs targetcustomnext Commando" Divider Title "Share in Legaue" Option "Nightstar" "lc Use this to help target Nightstar: /macro NS targetcustomnext nightstar" Option "Siege" "lc Use this to help target Siege: /macro Siege targetcustomnext siege" Option "Lt Resistance" "lc Use this to target LTs during the escape: /macro LTs targetcustomenext Commando" } Menu "Lambda Sector Trial -- Lambda" { Title "Lambda" Divider Option "Weapons Cache" "macro WC targetcustomnext cache" Option "Containment Chamber" "macro CC targetcustomnext chamber" Option "Marauder" "macro Mar targetcustomnext marauder" Option "Acid" "macro Acid targetcustomnext portal$$powexecname Molecular Acid" Option "Grenade" "macro Nade targetcustomnext marauder$$powexecname Pacification Grenade" Divider Title "Share in League" Option "Weapons Cache" "lc Use this to target Weapons Caches: /macro WC targetcustomnext cache" Option "Containment Chamber" "lc Use this to target Containment Chambers: /macro CC targetcustomnext chamber" Option "Marauder" "lc Use this to target Marauder: /macro Mar targetcustomnext marauder" Option "Acid" "lc Use this to target portals and use Molecular Acids: /macro Acid targetcustomnext portal$$powexecname Molecular Acid" Option "Grenade" "lc Use this to target Marauder and use Pacification Grenades: /macro Nade targetcustomnext marauder$$powexecname Pacification Grenade" } Menu "Keyes Island Reactor Trial -- Keyes" { Title "Keyes" Divider Option "Terminals" "macro Cell targetcustomnext terminal$$powexecname power cell" Option "Disintegration" "macro Dis lc HELP!!! I'M BEING DISINTEGRATED!!!" Option "Goliaths" "macro Gol targetcustomnext Goliath" Divider Title "Share in League" Option "Terminals" "lc Use this to target terminals and use Power Cells: /macro Cell targetcustomnext terminal$$powexecname power cell" Option "Disintegration" "lc Use this if/when you're being disintegrated: /macro Dis lc HELP!!! I'M BEING DISINTEGRATED!!!" Option "Goliaths" "lc Use this to target Goliaths on the second reactor: /macro Gol targetcustomnext Goliath" } Divider Menu "Imperious Task Force -- ITF" { Title "ITF" Divider Option "Surgeons" "macro Surg targetcustomnext surgeon" Option "Cysts" "macro Cyst targetcustomnext cyst" Option "Nictus" "macro Nictus targetcustomnext Nictus" Option "General" "macro General targetcustomnext General" } Menu "Statesman Task Force -- STF" { Title "STF" Divider } Menu "Lady Grey Task Force -- LGTF" { Title "LGTF" Divider Option "Honoree" "macro Honor targetcustomnext honoree" Option "Glacia" "Macro Glac targetcustomnext glacia" Option "Infernia" "Macro Infer targetcustomnext infernia" Option "Generators" "macro Gener targetcustomnext generator" Option "Yellows" "macro Yellow targetcustomnear antibody" Option "Blues" "macro Blue targetcustomnear electrolyte" Option "Greens" "macro Green targetcustomnear mending" } Menu "Tin Mage Task Force -- TMM2TF" { Title "TMM2TF" Divider Option "Director 11" "macro Direct targetcustomnext director 11" Option "Neuron" "macro Neur targetcustomnext neuron" } Menu "Apex Task Force -- ATF" { Title "ATF" Divider Option "Battle Maiden" "macro BM targetcustomnext Maiden" Option "Champions" "macro Champ targetcustomnext champion" } } -
Badges are badges are badges. I got most of them on my main before they were nerfed but after ED and before IOs. Having said that, "nerfing" badges is not important. I know when I got mine... I know how effing agitating, irritating, and satisfying it was, I really don't give a rip what anyone else says about them. Plus, now I can be crotchety and start most of my sentences with "well, back in my day..." up-hill-both-ways-bare-foot kinda crap which is funny to me.
Added bonus, brings more people into badging with decreasing the requirements which, in my opinion, is always a good thing. It's all about the community and exclusion leads to death. Elitism is for the weak.
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I've got this on three toons now and I've found that not only is AT important but team distribution is important too. Correct me here if I'm wrong... but I believe kins will only fulcrum shift those on their team and no one else in the league.
What this means is that it is important to have at least two of each type you want around to do team buffs... pains kins and rads to mention a few.
Sonics, colds, thermals, traps, TAs, pains, rads, stormies, dark and poison are all good to have around (in no particular order). Other support are okay... empathy for fort, FF.... not so much except for damage mitigation from the incoming mobs, though not as critical with many toons taking barrier as their destiny power.
Corrs are the best since they damage and buff, fenders next, then MMs and trollers. Then blasters would be next for exotic damage, doms follow closely, followed by pretty much everything else. Having a tank/brute/durable scrapper is probably a good idea for keeping Mar's attention, but not too many.
Having lore pets is a bonus as well. Seers are good to have around when taking on Mar as they do psionic damage and pop every 15 mins or so (depending on lag) so pop em right when the fight starts and pop em at the end when they're up again. Helpful for getting over the unstoppable hump.
Both my badgers are s/l heavy (MA/SR scrapper and WM/SD brute) so I justify bringing them along cause I led runs on them... I feel like leading mitigates some of the specific toon drawbacks.
More -res is all I can say for this... with a side of +dam. Best of luck to everyone who has yet to get it. Look me up if you're going for a try and maybe I can lend a toon to assist.
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Jack taking a break from a long day of napping.
Simon's usual hang out spot while I play. -
.... but she's kind of a big deal. I think it's worth wishing her a happy birthday. Today, Angry_Angel (@ara) turns the ripe old age of ..... I dunno, ask her I guess... or don't, you're call.... I'm not gonna ask.
So, raise a glass and wish her a happy birthday at your earliest convenience...
HAPPY BIRTHDAY ARA!
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Quote:If someone attacks you in a PvP zone, they are neither "lame" nor a "jerk". The assumption that the PvPer is malicious is probably insulting to the PvPer. In the same sense that maybe the PvPer thinks I am a loser for collecting intangible baubles. Who would run the first mission of the KHTF for 16 hours a day, 3 days in a row, on DXP weekend? Seems pretty silly if you don't care about badges.Originally Posted by Astrolynx
Well then it's clear at that point that they're just killing the badger just to annoy them, since they're most likely not fighting back and/or running.
That said, it still is a PvP zone and all is fair game. A player can be nice and leave you alone to badge but they do NOT have to. It's just the same when people have their little 1v1 duels under the Recluse's Victory atlas statue. It's still perfectly fair if some lame stalker sneaks up and kills one of them.
It's all things based upon friendly agreement between the players. The PvPer who keeps killing you isn't breaking any rule...he's just being a jerk about it.
And this is coming from an all-human PB who is far from a PvPer. I dealt with more than my share of these types. Unfortunately you just have to kind of work around them.
It seems generally people are demarcating between PvPers and badgers... this seems rather arbitrary. It's a slippery slope to elitism and discrimination. I like my badges. Others like PvP. I'm not better or worse than them because of this. -
So, I'm clearly new to the boards here, but I've a question that may have been already fleshed out, so pardon my laziness from searching....
I don't understand why some people get worked up about the PvP badges. A PvP zone is just that. It seems that one should expect to have to PvP to get the PvP badges (I did when I got them). Why whine and moan when a stalker assasin's strikes you when you are working on a pillbox? Welcome to PvP. I know it's irritating and frustrating, but it's a PvP zone. It wouldn't be quite as rewarding to get all the badges if the they were handed out like candy.
I ask because I just watched someone, player A, kick another person, player B, from a badge channel for PvPing. I got the impression that Player A was trying to badge in the PvP zone and Player B was attacking them. So in retribution, player A, who was a Mod in said channel, kicked player B. There was nothing happening in the channel...
Now admittedly, I may not know the whole story, but it seems awfully childish to punish someone for using a zone as intended.
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Quote:Here, let me help ya out:Originally Posted by Smersh
...please do not send me a tell inviting yourself to my team. If my team was looking for more, I would have broadcast it and invited people that way.
If you send me a tell saying "Any room? or "Can I join?", I will not reply, I will ignore you.
It's just rude.
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