Deus_Otiosus

Exactly.

VEATs are amazing. You'd be foolish to turn one down under most circumstances, and even more foolish if you think having more VEATs would be bad.

Actually, I recently put together my regular team of friends +1 pick up for an All VEAT speed ITF.

22 Minutes isn't the best time, but it's not too shabby either.

We need a healer and a tank, lol.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I had assumed this was a limitation of the system.

In that, targeted castings of powers (shields, SB) do not allow the players to buff themselves (which I believe is a balance consideration) because they cannot target themselves vs. PBAoE or AoE buffs that do actually buff the player (For example, AM).

Wouldn't allowing shield buffs to be PBAoE castings also allow the player to buff themselves?

Stick with it.

The Destiny & Judgement lines will provide.

Hah, totally understandable. I've been on a handful of collapsing team situations in that meat-grinder.

Fixed.


That pisses me off. It's a Brute/Tanker job to take care of that.

Ranged TAoE or Taunt, and then run behind cover. Everything will chase the aggro machine and everyone else is free to run through the door.

I've seen too many Brutes/Tankers shirking their duties to save their own skins. Aside from the fact that's its bad play, there's a Hosp in zone.

No excuses.


I wouldn't have done anything different. Well done!



Oh, when you get a chance - please check your PMs

Is this the best chain?

I've been running

Midnight Grasp > Gloom > Smite > Siphon Life > Gloom > Smite


Is your chain better than that, and how much recharge does it require?

Not a good practice really.

My Brute can solo crates/containers, but it goes faster and smoother if people stick together. At the least it should be 2 mini teams.

Not saying it's your fault either, I've been on dozens of Lambda runs and sometimes your team simply can't keep up.


Yeah, Rebirth all the way for SR.

If someone really wanted Barrier, it will provide at worst 5% Res and Def permanently.

With a standard 45% Softcapped build, and T4 Barrier, you are 9% away from the 59% mark. Small lucks are easy to come by.

I would still go for Rebirth as SR, but that's just me.

Actually I was thinking more on the lines of Rech debuffs when it comes to ageless, but you're probably right in that Barrier is an all around more useful choice.

Ageless is pretty situational (unless of course you're build could use bursts of Rech & a full end bar every 2 mins)

If I played my DM/Regen anymore it would be a choice between Barrier and Ageless.

So I pretty much agree with your reasoning.

Yes, I think they are bad powers and I much prefer OWTS & SoW which are mini-god modes with mini-crashes which makes them infinitely more useable.

I drop Psychic Wail on my Fort the instant it's recharged and I have targets in range.

My Fire/Rad corr on the other hand dropped Inferno a few weeks ago because I never used it - I could never afford to due to the crash.

And now that I have seen Judgement, I will never take it.


Only my Fire/Kin corr will keep inferno, as he can circumvent the crash by popping a blue and then transference.

I think it's either

A) A technology limitation.

B) An oversight.



It simply makes no sense to add two trials that require coordination and tactics, unlike most of the rest of the game, as well as an all inclusive league + turnstyle system to support the PUG playstyle - and then flip it all on it's head and add a high level of competitiveness at the micro level having teams in the same league competing for xp or for leagues to lose the ability to coordinate within small teams within a league due to mixing team mates from different teams to complete the same objective
so all players can get their fair share of XP.

Fair enough, even the small changes like Assault, Veng & a Ribo in Deflection are still improvements worth grabbing.

Fun times indeed.

I figured as much, and I don't think you will need Physical Perfection either.

With all your recharge, DC should be on a 50s or so timer, Ageless will be on a 2 minute timer.

You can effectively stagger the two and refill your end bar to full 1x every minute.

0s Ageless > 60s DC > 120s Ageless > 180s DC and so on - I doubt you actually need this much recovery, but it's there when you do.

The Crash on OWTS is -60% end - I time DC for the OWTS crash on my DM/SD Brute.


So if you go ageless, drop Body Mastery and shoe horn in Ball Lightning or Fireball maybe

I had an argument with a league leader over this.

He was telling the Brutes to chase runners and Scrappers to man the doors.

And I was explaining that while Scrappers are great at both jobs, Brutes don't handle the runners as well as Scrappers do and that he should have the Brutes manning the doors instead.

Not to mention that Brutes tend to have more softcontrols on average than Scrappers, which is useful at the doors.

Well, it looks like a high end survivability build.

Do you only solo? Or do you do a lot of teaming?


Ageless is very nice, its situational but in the situations you need it - it should be life saving.

That's not to say that you couldn't get amazing value out of Barrier or Rebirth either - even with softcapped defenses and spamming Siphon Life, they are really just that amazing.

If you do go Ageless, I would definitely consider getting rid of Conserve power, and by extension the Body Mastery Pool - it seems superfluous in the face of +100 END every 2 minutes on top of DC

I'm not a strict Brutes only player, I have a handful of Scrappers and ... one L32 tanker.

I also play a handful of Corrs, and a couple of VEATs.

It just seems like a lot of people don't actually know what their Scrappers or Tankers are capable of.


Like this.

Tankers ARE sufficiently more durable. They're insanely durable.

I prefer the higher damage of Brutes and Scrappers, but anyone who is not able to realize that neither of Brutes nor Scrappers are even in the same league as a Tanker in durability is confused.

It is a nerf, especially now considering the incarnate powers (barrier T4) - is it time for the round up of more Brute nerf calls from the Scrapper sub-forum again?

So yeah, I'd like to keep my res caps where they are on a Brute now that I can finally make use of them.

And Brutes will still not have as many HP, as much regen, as high starting base DEF, as high starting base RES, as high as a Cap as a Tanker nor as strong status protection.




Scrappers out-damage Brutes, Brutes out-survive Scrappers.

This is where it should be.

Yes, all three are pretty heavily attacked.


All accurate.


The BAF turrets can be completely avoided, and every Lambda I've been has been 16 people all assaulting a single turret at once, so again easily dealt with.




I'll also add that Destiny is a complete game changer.

Several people can stagger their Barriers, Rebirth is a completely boss heal and +HP or +regen.

My WP Brute was struggling on the first Lambda runs as entire teams were being slaughtered by the mobs in the Warehouse & Lab - Now being effectively L53 with T3 Barrier from Destiny, SoW & Demonic* - I can juggle all three and run through this Trial with only a touch more caution than my usual LGTF/LRSF/ITF Runs.

The Incarnate powers are game changing, the pain people feeling now in these trials will diminish as more and more people start packing the Destiny line and are effectively L53.



*For fun, I'm also adding Void Core Final Judgement for 30s of -50 damage debuff in a 50ft radius to 32 Targets - Unreal, and I can stack this with Darkest Night to boot? <3 The Devs.

First you said your regen had no problems, and then you said it died a few times (which indicates problems, but whatever)

Then you said it was player error when you jumped the gun (defense would have provided a cushion here btw, to give you time while your powers recharge, i.e. your survivability increases).

Then you attribute your success to the Blasters killing stuff fast (makes sense, dead mobs don't fight back, it also means you probably weren't a main target of aggro, having no aggro aura and having a platoon of blasters letting loose).

I'm fine with all of these, it seems totally plausible.

It still doesn't change two things:

1) Building for defense is the best model available for survival.

2) Resistance and Regeneration DO NOT always get a free pass whenever the difficulty gets upped. (the original point I was refuting).

Maybe we're playing different games.

An ITF finished in over 30 minutes is an embarrassment to me, 1 death from an unlucky RNG moment is all I will accept.

If any finished build, Scrapper or Brute, of mine were to die multiple times on an ITF under any circumstances my first act is to re-evaluate the Character and re-build it from the ground up - This is an extreme position, you may feel free to mock it.


If you really did complete an ITF in like 30 minutes with no defense and nothing but blasters - well kudos to you and you have my apologies.

It Still doesn't invalidate what we know about defense, and the survivability you gain by building for it (because your story is an anecdote).


No one has ever really said that, not in this thread and not in general.

I've "tanked" the LRSF on a non-softcapped WP Brute. I understand what can be done even if you are not softcapped, this is not what I have been stressing.

The soloing part is not a requirement, it was a statement to the fact that you most likely had massive assistance in the way of +DEF buffs or -To Hit debuffs from your allies.


And here is what I, originally, said:

And then you stated how you didn't build for defense, and consequently died a few times even with 7 people who at least some of which were likely buffers/debuffers on your team.

In which case, you actually proved my point.

I just want to be clear, are you saying that you solo'd Romulus and that there were no +DEF buffs or -To Hit Debuffs present on your team?

Also, so you are aware - having a team of 7 buffers/debuffers doesn't suddenly mean your personal character is the most amazing ever and that building for Defense for survivability is a myth.

It means 7 people with buffs and debuffs are totally amazing when stacking their abilities.

People have been taking advantage of that power on speed LRSF runs for ages, the Brute is only there to do two main things

1) Not die.
2) Hold AVs attention while they get killed.

If they happen to also have a solid ST attack chain, bonus cookies for the Brute.

This is exactly my point. You died a few times.

Build for softcapped defense, you will not die unless you do something really stupid or simply get really unlucky.



As a side note, building for passive regen is the least beneficial thing you can do build for on a regen character.