Dechs Kaison

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I told the team to stay above centerline and kill what they could from range while I trounced the vines in front of the tree. Someone probably underestimated the tree's abilities thinking "Oh, I can get that group of vines" and got one shotted. Toxic DoT is a witch.

That makes sense.

For the one I earned the badge on, the total sum of all buffs on me were Speed Boost, and ID during the Ghost Widow fight. I also had a Triage beacon nearby while fighting Lord Recluse.

I had a lot of defenders on that team, but they were all sorts of debuffs which I asked to be applied to the towers and not Recluse.

I can swear I remember a conversation with Castle where someone asked "What level of threat has to be generated to override the mob's desire to run away?" to which he responded "It's different for every mob."

This leads me to believe that you can force the mobs to stick close to you with enough threat, but damned if we'll know how much that is. Shield's taunt aura, along with the debuff/extra damage, will generate more threat than anything else in this game, so that's clearly the best shot at it.

Dark has a less commonly resisted damage type, immobilize control, a small heal to supplement a defensive set, and if you're saturating AAO, you'll be saturating Soul Drain.

I think /Dark has more single target damage output against a single target than /SS ever will, especially with high recharge builds and enough enemies to fuel Soul Drain.

He wasn't lying. In fact, he plays his DA scrapper very well.* I'd like to mention though, that the long pause was due to drowning in tells.




*The fact that he plays dark armor may have introduced bias into my statement.

Yeah, right back at you. No one's claimed that you couldn't fit those two powers in a build of 24 power choices.

Your argument is that a widow without TT:Maneuvers is useless. Useless to a point of deserving to be kicked immediately, no questions asked. How about you provide some substance to back up this claim?

I'm merely arguing that the absence of a single power does not invalidate a player's contribution to a team.

Stop arguing that they should be able to fit the power in with the 24 choices available. That's irrelevant. It's not a matter of not finding room so much as simply not having a desire to pick it. For whatever reason the player does not pick the power. I'll say it again, the reason is not relevant.

The exclusion of one power is not a reason enough to dismiss a player's ability to contribute to a team.

You seem to think that a power with minimal cost and immense team benefit is essential. I provided a similar power with similar teamwide benefits. Instead of increased defense, every minion is doing zero damage while stunned. By your line of logic, the powers is essential.

I'm proving that the essential power is not needed.

Yes, I built for defense. As do many people. I do not benefit from additional defense most of the time. Maybe that's why I don't care about maneuvers.

I'll ask again, since you don't seem to want to address it.

If I build a widow with TT:Maneuvers, Leadership:Maneuvers, Mind Link, and all the other teambuff powers you deem essential but no attacks, will I still be welcome on your team?

Is my widow's purpose to provide support to the team? Taking that to the extreme, I get every power I can that helps a team. Medicine pool and every leadership toggle I can. I keep stimulant up on everyone all the time. Now I can't sustain enough endurance or have time to attack. Forget whether I've taken the attacks or not. I built a character with your essential powers, I must be better than the guy who skipped TT:Maneuvers in favor of a build he made that can solo AVs.

KB protection comes from only two sources that I am aware of. There are the global IOs (From Karma, Steadfast, or Blessing of the Zephyr), and from on of the knockback sets as a set bonus for having four of them.

My tank uses one Steadfast and two Blessing of the Zephyrs. The Steadfast/Karmas are easy to come by (found cheap or easily rolled for at AE). BotZ's not so much.

I think it doesn't matter. Let's just look at Oppressive Gloom.

For 0.07 endurance per second and a negligible self damage, you can render minions helpless, and enable boss stuns if the tanker has any other stun power. This kind of mitigation will prolong the life of the tanker, allowing him to better serve his purpose on the team: control aggro. The stun duration is less than the taunt duration, so all mobs will wander back. There are no obvious downsides to this power, so by all semblance of logic, it's a no-brainer. Any Dark Armor tank without Oppressive Gloom is gimping themselves.

Except you can build an effective Dark Armor tank without Oppressive Gloom. I offer proof of that with all four blueside Mo* badges, and I just recently posted a screenshot of my Dark Armor tank holding the aggro of four AVs in addition to Reichsman.

The reason I bring all this up is because you can build an effective Widow without TT:maneuvers. You can build an effective anything without anything. You won't know it until you see what the player is capable of. Missing a power you deem essential does not mean the player or the character is an invalid waste of space on your team.

All I'm asking is that you give these people a chance.

Find out if they have built and can play an effective character before kicking them off the team. Don't just assume.

I have a survivability analysis tool that would help me determine the full effect this would have, but suffice to say that without a taunt aura, he would have much less need of the added regeneration. If he's built to the softcap on S/L/E/N, he won't need the added regen there either.

There's not enough information present. The absence of any one power does not invalidate a build.

Which is very important when trying to minimize the time enemies like Honoree and Reichsman spend in Unstoppable.

I already had my MoSTF badge when we did that.

Dechs Kaison, please.

Yeah, I think I'll make a soldier who just gets the TT powers, adds on leadership powers, a few travel powers, and maybe the medicine pool. Never attack, but hey, I've got the essential powers.

EDIT: Please note my sarcasm.

You mean much to the enjoyment of players who like to catch you when you're wrong. Which is quite often. And all I feel like looking up right now.