Dante

Some more ideas from my fetid imagination:

Not Dead Yet
The Expendables
European Cash Cow
Server Shutdown Watch
The Doom Patrol
Down But Not Defeated
We LIVE!
Still Kicking A**
Overseas Cynics
Negative Reputation (great for a Villain group!)
Super Euros
European Empire
The Outsider Collective

Although I think a few of those might be a tad OTT.

I can see that the group would probably naturally divide once moralities are established in Praetoria but as long as we had a Hero SG and a Villain SG, there would be natural homes for them. And straddling both of them would be the channel that could be used for teaming, events and general chit chat.

I’ll be keeping my newly planned Kin/Dark in reserve for this if it takes off.

Thank you for posting Avatea. I certainly don't envy you the task of communicating with us rowdy lot over this issue.

A mistake is a mistake and I'm glad that it's being worked on. I think that perhaps it would take the most cynical of minds to think that it was some covert attempt to get us all to uproot and head to the NA servers. However the fact remains that we have watched a decline in service since the EU offices closed and as our numbers dwindle, we see no attempt to try and either bring more people to the EU and nothing that reassures us that we're not about to be closed down and forgotten about.

I know that you are limited in what you can say but this isn't about words. Our patience has been tested over the past two years and has been worn thin. When it comes to the future of the EU servers, action speaks volumes.

I certainly favour events. I reckon if we get this up and running we could run regular raids/TFs/SFs etc. If we're avoiding mentioning servers then something along the lines of:

EU Survivors
Europe United
European Outcasts
Forgotten Europe
The Marginals
The Outsiders

I think we'll need some idea of how SGs/VGs will work in GR as well though. It could well be that you can't get an invite to one until you pick a side. I guess we'll find out.

*Sigh* And of course, this idea prompted me to come up with yet another alt... One day I'll find a cure...

This made me laugh big. I'll be keeping a copy of this open with every PuG from now on.

Great work.

I’ve been away so have only been able to browse this thread from my mobile so apologies for my lateness contributing (and yes, I did read every single post ). I think that someone in NCSoft needs to make some hard decisions when it comes to the future of the EU. Alas, I do not think that decision will be made by any of the Devs who read and participate on these boards. More likely, it’ll be a decision made by some suit in an office somewhere staring at a spreadsheet full of subscription numbers and dollar signs rather than this thread.

I think that for us in the EU, we heard the death knell the moment that the Brighton offices were gutted. I don’t want to paint a rosy picture of how things used to be, but when we had an EU office, we saw things such as EU competitions, events, meet & greets, good gods even this bizarre creature known as ‘publicity’ at a few of the sci-fi and comic fairs. Once the Brighton office was closed, we knew it was the beginning of the end. It took a week from the announcement of the closure for anyone from NCSoft to have the decency to turn up on our EU boards and offer us any reassurances as to what was going on. Even then, it was the same, non-specific retort we have come to expect in the two years following.

Last summer, we saw the merging of our boards and although this is an excellent thing that has allowed us wider participation with our US brethren, we still have yet to see anything that reflects that with regards to our servers.

I regard the EU part of these boards to be something I wander into vaguely if there’s something worth discussing. Unfortunately, all too often it is for threads full of people who used to be passionate, zealous advocates of this game who I have sadly watched become more and more jaded as time has gone on. I know, I can smell my own.

As I said, someone needs to make a hard decision about the EU. Either NCSoft has to give us the right publicity, support and drive to promote the game outside of the US or they should pull out of Europe altogether and offer the EU subscribers free transfers (badges, vet rewards etc included) to the NA servers. (Or heaven forbid, the much wanted server list merger!) Rather that than the lacklustre, ‘wait for EU subscribers to start new accounts in the US’ lip service that we receive at the moment. I could list the differences in service we receive but I hate the ‘entitlement whine’ as much as the next person. I just want to see parity between the two regions either by increasing support for the EU or doing the decent thing and making us one community. But as time goes on, I see the likelihood of this becoming less and less. I love participating with our US cousins on these boards, all I want to is to be able to do the same in game.

I’ll sit tight, keep playing and do my best to be patient. But I fear for a lot of us, that patience is running out.

Holy thread necromancy Batman!!!

As I will be rolling some new characters in Going Rogue, I'm happy to support this. Assuming that Europe has been ‘Devoured’ in Praetoria, we can be a bunch of European exiles together.

I also favour Union but I’ll go with the majority.

This is very sad news. I can't say I've had the honour of teaming with you but your contribution to the community and tireless campaigning for the EU speaks volumes. I do hope to see you again soon. Until then, good fortune.

Another day, another disappointment.

Thank you for posting Avatea, I am glad that at least someone is keeping an eye on this board but I think the patience of a lot of us EU players is wearing thin. With no information and no incentive to play in the EU other than our excellent albeit rapidly dwindling community over here, I think EU morale is at an all time low.

Don't take it personally, I know it's likely the domain of someone higher up in NCSoft but we don't want promises, we want answers. Just something to let us know we're not being left to die in the dark out here.

I think I'd go for 'The Neurotic...'

:P

Thanks Avatea.

Around my mid-20s is when I make an honest assessment. Pre-SOs and pre-Stamina, it's hard to really appreciate what a toon is capable of. Only once I've got those in place do I begin to wonder whether I really enjoy a toon or not.

The other thing that'll keep me going is concept. If it's a strong character concept and I've got a good team backing me up, I'll often persevere. Either that or knowing that there is a key power that gels everything together. I hated my Kin/Ice at first but kept going until Fulcrum Shift and now I love it.

This makes me sad too. I'm pleased that people are having a good time on the NA servers but it also means we've lost some quality people over here too. I tried for the fourth time on the NA servers last week and cancelled just as quickly. I think I've just invested too much into my alts on Union to just dump them all. Plus I miss my friends.

Sad to see you go as well Fury, I hope that we do get our list merge and then maybe we'll see you again. This from the latest post by Black Pebble on the Marketing thread:

Welcome aboard, I hope you enjoy yourself here.

We were all new once so any questions you have, don't be afraid to ask them. This really is one of the best game communities on the internet and you'll find plenty of people willing to be supportive of new players.

1) I never use the first person perspective. Occasionally I'll give it a go but I actually find it ruins my immersion more than improving it.

2) How far into the character you go is entirely up to you. Some folks just throw out their battle cries and read out the mission text in character. Others will act, live and breathe according to their character's nature. I find the key to getting into a situation is to ask myself each time "How would my character respond to this?" rather than going with the game mechanics. For example, one of my Blasters used to be so timid, she'd not enter melee, even if that's where the heals were coming from with a Kinetics user on the team. You've just got to be prepared to live with the consequences (i.e. faceplanting in my case. )

If you get very deep into a character, sometimes their responses become natural and that can even be surprising when they do something you weren't consciously expecting. That's all part of the fun though.