Creole Ned

This and james' post above sum up my view nicely.

I actually like the look of the blue caves but they really feel like they were designed for a single player game, not one where you could have eight players on a team and certainly not one with masterminds.

I was surprised when they put the same incredibly tight caves in CoV.

I did that mission today with my level 20 dominator and got six minions coming for me. Set to 0/0.

I don't mind ambushes as long as there's actually a chance to survive them. I dislike the 'spawn on top' ones not only because of the potential for instant death but also because it really kills (!) the immersion to have enemies just magically appear like that.

And that fourth screenshot is great!

Others have commented and hopefully David will clarify but I believe what he meant when he said that nothing will be removed is that even if they go forward with Option 1 existing character costumes will be unaffected -- unless the player changes the costume, in which case only the newer version of the piece would be available in the editor.

Kind of like how some characters still have the Malaise pants. They won't ever lose them, unless they, uh, change their pants.

I second this.

My pointless speculation on how inherent fitness will work:

- current fitness pool powers will be grandfathered for existing characters but will not be available to new characters or after a respec
- all fitness powers will remain slottable
- all four powers (swift, hurdle, health, stamina) will be available at level 1
- all four powers at level 1 (except stamina) will be reduced in effectiveness as per their level 1 status, then improve as a character levels. The overall stats will fundamentally stay the same as they are now.
- stamina will be boosted so that its effectiveness is capped with its default slot. The main impetus for this will be to make the 1-20 experience less 'draining' and to free up slots for other powers.

Haha. It's true, though, more often than not these teasers turn out to be underwhelming, so it's probably wise to have *no* expectations and just be pleased by whatever gets added to the game.

How do you think a new player would react in the same situation?

I can only speak for myself but if I 'died plenty' in the lowbie experience of an MMO, I'd probably quit, not because I want 'easy mode' but because I expect the lowest levels of the game, when you're learning how to play, to be gentler than the later levels, where you should have the knowledge and experience to handle tougher foes.

That's silly. Teaming is a good way to build community. Poor documentation/UI isn't. Besides, asking for help in broadcast for a 6+ year old game is as likely to get a new player flamed as it is to get them actual help.


The former is just bad design, to me. I've yet to see any MMO that doesn't highlight clickable objects in some way and many have, in fact, made the objects more visibly obvious precisely because so many players don't like pixel hunts.

As to the latter, again, if players want to explore, let them. Forcing it by making them go on a drawn out pixel hunt is misguided design. I appreciate the idea but I would bet most players don't even pay attention to the zone details as they look for the glowies because...they're looking for the glowies. It's much easier to appreciate the sights when you are doing it on your own -- on the way to a mission door, going to a trainer, chatting with friends.

You love the dev's what?

This is also a good point. Currently there is no way to preview pool powers at character creation, let alone customize them.

This sums up my position as well.